NordicPrince

I am just wondering on what basis you are saying the ship is too big to go to the Garonne River port, besides your well known bias against the new HAL ships. The Crystal Symphony docks there and has a draft of 24 feet, while the new Rotterdam has a draft of 25 feet. The new Rotterdam also has azipods which you would think would make it very maneuverable. Is there a bridge that the ship would have to go under? Just wondering.

The Only Way to Cross

There's no reasoning with the old-timers about this. They have their minds made up that they do not like the Pinnacle class because it's not exactly what they are used to with the HAL of yesteryear. That's OK, more room for DW and I on our future Pinnacle class cruises.

You should check your facts before posting some of this incorrect information. For example, the Pinnacle class ships have very nice movie screens by the main pool under the Magrodome. Every day at 4 P.M. on the Koningsdam they would show a lovely nature series to enjoy during Happy Hour. The Pinnacle class hold 2600 passengers. This is far from massive passenger capacity, Comparatively the S-class vessels of Celebrity hold from 3100 to 3500 passengers and range in the 122,000 to 130,000 GRT range. RCL Oasis class hold over 6200 passengers which to most people is way too big. There is deck space to walk on an outside deck on the Pinnacle class ships. It is just different from what old time HAL cruisers think of. A promenade similar to previous ships would require a complete redesign of the life boats and the dining area. There is ample outdoor public space as featured under the Magrodome and in the back of the ships by the aft pool area. I think the ship designers have come up with a way to limit the size of the Pinnacle ships from what it could be to something that expands upon the limitations of the smaller vessels. The only cruise line that features smaller modern ships is Viking. I have been on them and they have a wonderful product but you pay 3 times more for it. You also get some more amenities included. HAL is not going to go that way; you might as well get used to it.

I think this is funny. Many of the old timers swore they would never get on a Pinnacle class ship because they don't have a full wrap around promenade or because they are too gigantic or too humongous for them. Now, change the name to something which is historical to HAL and they're all willing to jump onboard. I'm just wondering how the people in Holland associated with Ryndam are feeling about all of this. Me - I like the Pinnacle class ships and think they are a step forward for HAL which gives them something to compete with the other comparable lines.

Ship performers doing "If I were not upon the sea".

Serving our favorite server Charlene. Two cruises later we saw her again and she remembered us.

The Viking Crown Lounge on the Nordic Prince 1990. It was very hard for a woman to keep her modesty going up these outside stairs while the ship was moving. Good times.

Well said Mom, do not be censured, post as you wish.

RCG - The thought of it wounds the heart. Good bye to the wonderful history of Royal Caribbean.

LP came up thru sales as a travel agent and will always have a sales mentality. Couldn't tell you which way the azipod propeller points when you want to go forward. Will rely on her 100% female crews for that.

Don't know where you're going to find ships with full promenades anymore. Looks like you're going to looking for a new cruise line.