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  1. 10 minutes ago, coffeebean said:

    No shoes, no shirt, no service is just another way of saying "My business, my house, my rules". Can the governor really restrict private businesses from conducting business their way? If a private business prefers to serve only those that are vaccinated IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY, they should have every right to do so. Can the governor restrict private businesses from conducting business as they prefer? Seems what DeSantis has done is very wrong.


    I suspect the no shoes, no shirt, no service idiom is due to Health Department regulations for eating establishments.  If a business chooses to post a sign saying no concealed weapons allowed, a person has the right to disarm themself and enter or choose not to do business with them.  However the U.S. Government cannot order people carrying a gun not to enter the business.


    Getting back to the Vaccination passport; isn't that a different government requirement than just showing proof of vaccination you received with the shot?  If a cruise line says you can only sail with them if you show proof of vaccination, that should be their right to restrict their customers.  However I am against the CDC mandating it.  Then you can decide whether you wish to adhere to the cruise line's rule or not sail.

  2. 10 minutes ago, jmhlin said:

    Not the country holding all their vaccines to themselves and not sharing with their so call allies. You guys should feel luck to keep the vaccines Americans first.

    Oh so Canada, eh?  Your posts don't sound like you're an ally of the U.S.  Envious maybe.  Blame your government for not obtaining the Vaccine.  Why didn't they contract sooner with the pharmaceutical companies?

  3. 14 minutes ago, TrulyBlonde said:

    Interesting stats. I was up this a.m. and DH skied and I snowshoed up the ski mountain at 9000 ft and enjoyed the sun, snow, views etc. This is why they call us Fitkin County. I wish more of America and the World would understand how obesity kills. 

    Eat healthy and exercise. Not that difficult.



  4. 5 minutes ago, farmermd said:

    Not deaths as you alluded to, but 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were obese or overweight.  Wonder how many of those were cruise ship buffet junkies or how many will take advantage of the free donuts once they get the vaccine.



    "Obesity is a complex disease involving an excessive amount of body fat. Obesity isn't just a cosmetic concern. It is a medical problem that increases your risk of other diseases and health problems, such as heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure and certain cancers.


    There are many reasons why some people have difficulty avoiding obesity. Usually, obesity results from a combination of inherited factors, combined with the environment and personal diet and exercise choices.


    Obesity is diagnosed when your body mass index (BMI) is 30 or higher. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. However, BMI doesn't directly measure body fat, so some people, such as muscular athletes, may have a BMI in the obesity category even though they don't have excess body fat."




    Additionally as people age, their metabolism slows and their ability to do more activity diminishes. That's why young people weren't as seriously affected by getting covid. Thus Look in the mirror in 10 years and remember how thin you used to be!  You can't make it so simplistic.

  5. 24 minutes ago, jmhlin said:

    That is why your country lost half millions life. Nothing more needs to say. Lmao

    How preposterous a statement. And then Laughing????? Your statement reeks of hubris.


    You do not take into account the distribution or underlying reasons for the tragic deaths. There were countless deaths attributed to Covid which were not the main cause of death because medical facilities and practitioners received extra federal funding if the COD was listed as covid.  Or how about the population of the U.S. compared to the population of your smaller country, which you obviously don't disclose in your profile. 



    BTW beginning tomorrow, anyone age 18+ in FL is eligible to be vaccinated.  Hows that working for you in your country?


  6. 17 minutes ago, KWW88 said:

    Newbie to Cruise Critic, been having fun reading all the various topics and postings.  Also not an experienced cruiser, been on NCL 1x, Carnival 1x and Celebrity Summit and Apex 1x each , fell in love with the celerity ships and service on board and decided on of my vacations each year will be a cruise on Celebrity.  I have a 15 day transatlantic booked for April 2022 in S1 level suite, was supposed to have been last May.  Certainly was not cheap but I not feel outrageous, it is approx $3k more than the one I was booked on last year.  For you much more experienced cruisers, do you feel these new costs are crazy that you won't book yet?    


    We booked an Edge S1 last June for a Jan '21 7 day Caribbean cruise which we lifted and shifted in November at protected pricing.  The Apex cruise, also 7 day, in Feb '22 is $5,481 more than we're paying which is also more than double the price.  Would you book it now?  I certainly wouldn't.  Actually I would have asked for a refund if they hadn't price protected based on the then current November pricing.

  7. 1 hour ago, vermonter16 said:

    I did look at Regent for Alaska and their pricing was higher and the itinerary times were not as good as what Celebrity had so that was a no go.  



    Too bad you missed their double category free upgrade that expired the end of February.  Regent raises their rates the beginning of every month.  Everyone's pricing is crazy now because of all the covid cancelled cruises eating up future inventory.

  8. I understand the need to cruise again because I am in the same boat.  But is it cruise at any cost with costly flight worth a 7 day cruise to satisfy that?


    When I looked at available St Maarten cruises, it appeared that the TA's locked up a lot of the cabins before they opened it to loyal XX cruisers.


    I have a total of four booked cruises thru Jan 2003 and can't wait to begin them.  I'm hoping they get the bugs worked out by our first Apex cruise in  Feb '22.

  9. Wow you have quite a dilemma.  Too much angst for me.  Sounds like you really, really want to make it work without much help from the cruise line.  Is it possible they're doing all this to force you to give up the attractive rates so you have to re-book at prevailing rates?


    Good luck figuring out what's best for you.  I would have pulled the plug and waited for all the dust to settle.  Good thing you're not me. lol

  10. 5 hours ago, Bertram4me said:


    We are in the same boat, so to speak, so I decided I have participated in my last PUP webinar (unless they give me real CC points at 1:1).

    Good luck everyone, I'm outta here!


    But if you continued to participate, you'd get one millipede step closer to the next level! 🤣

  11. 13 hours ago, tfred said:

    took your advice - booked the S1 aft cabin on Apex


    I hope you will enjoy the aft view as much as we have on several ships. My DW's favorite was aft through the Panama Canal.  Mine, besides the wake, was when we were docked in Bermuda. I've attached a panoramic picture of the view from the Summit aft cabin.  The other pics are of Pina Colada, who hitched a ride on our balcony, enjoying the wake with me.


    We have an Apex S1 aft corner booked next February.  Can't wait.  Our first XX suite too.

    Bermuda Panoramic.jpg

    Sunset heading into Bermuda w Pina.jpg

    Pina Colada enjoying the view.JPG

  12. 7 hours ago, LGW59 said:

    Maybe I missed it but I don't see where drakes2 implied where the teacher got it, she just stated that she is an elementary school teacher.  If I said that a young lawyer in my area is in hospital with COVID would that imply he got it in his law firm?

    So then what is the relevance that the first person was a teacher or in your example is  lawyer?  It's not.

  13. 17 hours ago, Fouremco said:

    Thanks for all the information, very useful. Well, all except the two sentences I've quoted, for which I blame neither you nor the VP Sales. I simply can't fathom how Celebrity can get this far into the planning stages without knowing exactly what their health and safety protocols are going to be, including the use or non-use of masks. Are they really that far out of touch with their customer base that they don't realize that for many, the need to wear a mask and under what conditions is critical to their decision whether or not to book. To announce the final protocols just before sailing is far too late IMO. 


    Do you really believe that Celebrity cares about those concerns you expressed?  Those who don't want to cruise under Celebrity's conditions won't. However at 40-60% capacity of their smallest class,  Celebrity probably believes they'll be able to fill that regardless. It's about getting back to revenue.

  14. 18 hours ago, WonderMan3 said:

    I wonder what type of proof of vaccination the cruise line will require? Hopefully it’s something that Celebrity can verify with some sort of national database. I would be very concerned about some people lying about their vaccination status in order to cruise again.


    There is a national database in the U.S. of people who have received their vaccinations with pertinent information including brand, dosage, how administered and date. My covid vaccinations and flu shots showed up on my Dr's patient portal without me even telling them.  The flu shots were administered at CVS & Publix.  The state administered covid ones at a parking garage in the Convention Center.


    Perhaps the cruise lines will make you sign a release to access that insurance national database information for confirmation. If the Government, Medicare or your insurance is paying for the shots, the records are there and shared.

  15. But it will take two years longer to recover the revenues.  Do you believe Celebrity could have all their ships sailing by December and will the fares remain higher than average through 2023?


    Carnival Corp CEO sees minimum of two more tough years for cruise industry: FT

    BY Reuters — 1:38 AM ET 03/14/2021


    (Reuters) - Carnival Corp  Chief Executive Arnold Donald anticipates at least two more tough years for the cruise industry, which is unlikely to return to pre-pandemic levels until at least 2023, the Financial Times reported on Sunday.


    The cruise company's full fleet might be sailing by the end of this year but it will take longer to recover to pre-crisis revenues, Donald told the newspaper in an interview.


    Carnival in January reported a bigger-than-expected preliminary fourth-quarter net loss as business was brought to a virtual standstill by the coronavirus outbreak.

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