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  1. I wish the people who use the term "all inclusive" not refer to the new XX program that way since it's NOT that and very confusing when they do. The XX program is ALWAYS INCLUDED. Which means you will be forced to pay for the now included gratuities, liquor and WiFi hidden within the fare and no longer charged optionally at the cruiser's discretion. This Always Included program is XX's way of confusticating, (i.e. to confuse, confound, perplex; to complicate) their marketing to make people believe they're more an upscale/premium line then they actually are. This is demonstrated by
  2. I did go back and read your post 339. You used the term All Inclusive. So I suppose that means the same as Always Inclusive in the post?
  3. highway180 and Fouremco, Are y'all referring to XX's "Always Included" but calling it "All Inclusive"? The "Always Included" on XX is basically the "Classic" drinks package limited to bar brands. The cruise lines with "All Inclusive" pour Premium liquors which you would have to pay additional to upgrade to on XX.
  4. For XX to be semi-luxury or a premium cruise line, they need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk. I haven't seen the walk matching for the past several years. Keys Kathy, you forgot to mention taking away the daily aqua from Aqua Class. lol That created quite an uproar back then from the AQ aficionados.
  5. Like many of the replies, we enjoyed AQ on both the M & S class ships. It's worth it there for only a few $$ more than Concierge because we appreciated the view and quietness vs the large two deck MDR. We have not sailed Edge yet but chose a Sky suite for Luminae after reading many reviews for Edge's Blu. But you will get a bottle of water in AQ the first night if they haven't changed that even though the AI now includes all the bottled water you desire if you go get it. LOL Pre-Covid I would have suggested upgrading to a Sky Suite for the Retreat and Luminae but I suspect
  6. Nope not all by that but a good portion. The other is the demand to use the inflated FCCs before they expire. XX gave them 125% and then charge 200% of what they used to before the pandemic. However the bottom line is what do you really get for what you pay. If you have a lot of FCC then it's irrelevant. So too if you L&S'd. If you're paying out of pocket for a new booking, then OMG.
  7. No. Only people who don't remember the Chandris X willing to pay these prices for less are. That's smart business on XX's part to maximize profits. The lemmings will follow.
  8. WOW!!! That's $638pd US$ per day for a standard non real balcony infinity? I wonder if they named it infinity balcony because the prices have gone to infinity and beyond? 😄
  9. I am more surprised about the feeling of entitlement by XX to believe they're a luxury cruise line just for including the gratuities and classic beverage package while hiding the cost in the increased fares. Jeeeeze, it's not even premium liquor without adding another charge. Now go equate the real luxury lines and compare the ALL (not always) included items: the ship's passenger size, air fare, excursions, accommodations, food offerings and quality service level. Granted you may pay more, but lately since AI, not much more or even less than XX is trying to get. I'd
  10. Back to the car analogy, I remember the day when A/C was an option in the NE US. When a dealer tried to pack the rust proofing add-on to increase the sticker, I said I don't want to pay for that so remove it from the cost. They did since it was an overpriced option that cost them very little money and they wanted to sell the car. That equates to the WiFi XX is forcing you to pay for. No out of pocket expense but a high priced profit. In essence, XX has become a car salesman. So the choice is pay sticker price for the cruise or buy someone else's "car." Howz that for a mixed m
  11. Yeah I equate the poster's action to guys holding up signs with numbers from 1-10 as women walk by.
  12. And that was my point. 😃 In essence I was somewhat agreeing with you about someone appearing to be judgemental. Personally if I weren't eating in the buffet, I wouldn't be perched there passing judgement for enjoyment. I'd be in a bar, the theater or in bed.
  13. What they more likely studied was how many passengers will they lose by forcing AI vs. how much revenue will they generate by having AI plus can they replace the lost souls with unsuspecting newbies who don't have the club status anyway; thereby saving the club benefit costs. On paper if they calculated correctly, it's a win-win-win for XX and a lose-lose-lose for others. Then for others, it's a wash.
  14. Ah the privileged class looking down on the masses.
  15. Over the past several years, XX from time to time, would offer perks as an incentive to book during the promotion period. By forcing the AI purchase of those perks, they've eliminated the incentive promotions. The prime example was their Black Friday promotion of nothing. Another difference with the gratuities, even though you'll probably pay them (unless you're like some from the UK who don't believe in tipping), is that you're paying them 90-120 days before the cruise instead of billing at the end of it.
  16. That sounds equivalent to the Ernest Tubs song using a paraphrase, "It's Celebrity, love it or leave it" https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/07/love-it-or-leave-it-has-a-racist-history-a-lot-of-americas-language-does/
  17. So Canada believes a ship in their waters that doesn't have any physical contact with their soil or by persons onboard, i.e. not disembarking, is hazardous to the health of Canadians? What happened to the "science" of social distancing?
  18. The Dam boats are at HAL. 😆 Eurodam Koningsdam Nieuw Amsterdam Nieuw Statendam Noordam Oosterdam Rotterdam Volendam Westerdam Zaandam Zuiderdam
  19. Sit. Stay. roll over. Jump through this hoop. If you are in the UK, hop on one foot. Get five PUP points. So other than the very few who are close to the next level...what difference at this point does PUP make? With the AI program or Suite Life diminishing Elite and Elite+ benefits, what's the use? Anyone heard of Ivan Petrovich Pavlov? PUP reminds me of his dog experiments. And there's the circle back. Here's your treat. 🤣
  20. Please explain how the law is in the public interest in today's society.
  21. XX was then. Those days will never return which is why I've moved upstream. So if I understand you, it's all about price and any cabin to get the price? Guess we'll never see you on Regent. 😁
  22. drsel your points are valid especially if #7 is a higher priority. I believe the discussion really boils down to a person's priority. I currently prefer fewer times at higher quality than quantity. Now with XX's Always Included and much higher pricing, if you were to select between XX and Regent, at similar cost, which would you choose? I'll compare an S1 suite I have booked on Apex in the Caribbean and a Concierge suite booked on Splendor through the Panama Canal. (Disclosure: The Apex is at the prevailing rate after they changed to AI.) Both include premium liquor a
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