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  1. Some good news -- the CDC page is showing that the pandemic is on the threshold of being declassified as such. "Based on death certificate data, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 (PIC) decreased from 9.0% during week 25 to 5.9% during week 26, representing the tenth week of a declining percentage of deaths due to PIC. The percentage is currently at the epidemic threshold but will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks." Also, notice that they're now including pneumonia and influenza into the same pool -- and it's still declining. The death rate is the key indicator. Check your county's stats here: infection2020.com. Use the 'deaths' and 'log' and 'past 14 days' tabs.
  2. Clallam county: 46 total cases, 0 deaths. (source:infection2020.com)
  3. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Base it on facts, not feelings, though. From the CDC: "There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza." Granted, that's for the flu and disposable masks; doubtful that anyone wants to volunteer for a CCP trial. From the National Institute of Health: "This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection... Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%... Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection." If you do decide to wear a mask, make sure it's a medical mask and not a cloth one. Medical masks do provide some measure of protection. That's not what's being touted, though. A cloth mask is far worse than no mask. In my opinion, coughing or sneezing on people is rather disrespectful of others.
  4. Please do wear a mask if you're the sort of person to sneeze or cough on others! I'm not. The "science" you speak of is not a consensus. Social distancing WORKS. You need to be near a person who is infected in order to catch it. As for our despicable governor's hypocritical "mandate," it's not absolute. As for the 1 in a hundred, that's amusing. I'm guessing you live in King County. Here, it's closer to 50-60%, maybe for inside; far less for outside. And we have next to no virus in our county, even though we have several old folks homes. Track your county's progress at http://infection2020.com -- use the deaths/log option and see what's happened where you live, especially in the last 14 days. You know your own habits; thank you for wearing a mask if you're the kind to spread your spittle in one way or another.
  5. If you're the sort of person that coughs and sneezes on other people, you should definitely be wearing one.
  6. 37% now (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/04/16/unemployment-hawaii-tops-coronavirus-shutdown-continues/) and a 20% proposed pay cut for workers who are taxpayer-funded.
  7. That's Europe. It's not going to fly for North America. One positive I see going forward is that the adults-only areas (including pools) are more likely to be enforced now. Nothing like getting ready for a quick dip in the adult pool only to have it closed because "something" fell out of a 2 year old's diaper :-(. Personally I think, while some new protocols will be in place, it's going to be more along the "sign this waiver" thing that a clever lawyer has drawn up.
  8. We have three cruises planned for 2021. Can't wait for the first one (January)! I've been having a great time figuring out which excursions we're going to take. Have already booked one for Mazatlan (https://www.mazatlantours.org/stone-island-tour.htm and have a running list of ones that are still on the "might do this" side.
  9. The problem there is that you are starting from the point that masks do indeed "protect"; they don't. It's the distancing that has kept the transmission rate from skyrocketing (we're at zero deaths in my area for many weeks). You make the assumption that people who don't want to wear masks are "ignoring recommendations ...that help protect others." Perhaps they have instead researched the issue and know that the overwhelming majority of masks don't do anything. Pre-CCP Virus I never sneezed or coughed on anyone, preferring to cough into my shirt when necessary. Why would I now cough or sneeze on anyone else? Just because someone comes to a different conclusion that you do after examining much of the same evidence does not make them careless or ignorant. For someone to characterize them as such is the height of arrogance. If someone is that paranoid, they ought to stay inside and isolate. Best way to protect oneself and one's family.
  10. Under those circumstances, it would indeed not be worth it. We don't stay in our cabin much, don't carry a lot of stuff that needs to be stored in the bathroom, have had (mostly) excellent food, great entertainment on some/ decent on others, and we don't care about shopping. If the price was right, we'd do a nowhere cruise. Catch up on our vitamin D, finish all those books we've started, and negate our sleep deficits. No worries, unplugged, and relaxed. To me, that's worth it.
  11. If you were showing symptoms while still on the cruise, you likely brought whatever it was onboard with you. Too soon for incubation. Glad you're feeling better.
  12. We're going in mid-January. Excited to be changed from Ruby to Royal, and hoping to get an upgrade due to low capacity. One thing we also noticed is that the excursions (private companies rather than booking through the cruise line) are discounted as well. Planning to use the savings for tips to the locals. We have missed cruising!
  13. That would require passengers to agree to contact tracing. We'll be using our Medallion as a paperweight.
  14. Wow. That was rude, even for a New Yorker.
  15. Cloth masks do little other than bring your air quality down from 21.0 to 17.5 (18.5 is OSHA's minimum safety requirement.) Some of them are really cute, though. One of my kidlets flew last week. Almost everyone had a mask (guessing there were medical exemptions for the few that didn't) BUT she said that once the seatbelt sign went off, apparently most of the passengers felt that covered the masks, too. Off they came. btw, infection rates for airline personnel are and have been actually LOWER than the general population.
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