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  1. Eddie99

    Coronavirus

    How is everyone today? Hasn’t the world changed a lot in just 2 or 3 days? I can’t even start to think when I might plan to cruise next I don’t suppose anyone will start a cruise now? Or will they? The last few Caribbean fly cruises? Transatlantics? Does anyone know if any ship is planning to leave Southampton?
  2. Tweet published by P&O timed 19.49 today “UK Gov has advised against cruise ship travel for people aged 70+ & people with pre-existing health conditions. We understand if you're concerned by this. For cruises departing within 14 days, call 0344 338 8636 from 9am tomorrow. If outside 14 days, we'll contact you shortly.”
  3. I watched it live.. I can’t tell you verbatim but it was something like “ Our advice is that over 70s should not go on cruise ships” Watch for yourself
  4. Just as a diversion away from you-know-what If there are no cruises for the forseeable future, what will you do instead? Staycation? Touring UK? British seaside? Fly abroad? Will 2020 be the year we couldn’t take a holiday? Let’s hope the summer weather is good
  5. Eddie99

    Coronavirus

    I posted the Princess statement to the Stock Exchange on the “Cancellation “ thread I think the chances of P&O avoiding similar action are slim, but who knows?
  6. Oof - so that’ll be 8 or 9 sea days in a row back to Southampton Hope they offload quicker than we did at the end of the previous 35 nighter ... there will be much impatience!
  7. Princess statement to the Stock Exchange https://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/CCL/14458710.html
  8. Still not time to buy, according to this article https://investorplace.com/2020/03/right-time-own-carnival-ccl-stock/ That’s for serious investors though If you plan at least two 14 night cruises pa, once the world gets back to normal, a £1200 investment now would be repaid in Shareholder Credits in just 4 years. After that one would get £150 *free* every cruise and, hopefully, quarterly dividends again at some point. Then, when you cruise no more, you or your beneficiaries will get the value of 100 shares at that point. Looks like a win-win, as long as Carnival survives
  9. It might be an idea to keep in the back of our minds - insurance just might not save us if things get unspeakably bad Someone close to me, senior position in The City, warned that if it comes to it the insurance companies will declare the pandemic a *force majeure* and will not pay out. The overall picture is that, in extremis, the pandemic could also kill the insurance companies, which would not be good for when the world rights itself and prepares to go in an upward trajectory again. People lose thousands (which they’ve already paid, of course, so don’t have to find from incoming) - great pity but ... Insurance companies fail - jobs lost, base for recovery lost, etc etc As I’ve muttered before, there could be a time when holidays, or even losing £5000- £10000 seem a very minor matter
  10. Eddie99

    Coronavirus

    I’m sure the cruise companies are developing Plans B, C, D and the rest, which will include plans to close down for a period of time Look at The Markets. Carnival shares now £14.43 😳
  11. Early purchase of 2020 Xmas presents? Perfume etc - branded stuff - paperbacks, spirits Buy yourself 5 years stock of nice greeting cards, expensive toiletries, sunglasses? It’s a nice problem to have!
  12. What a pity they took so long in a fast-moving but inexorably deteriorating situation. First look at the new policy and it looks fair enough
  13. I read that there will be port calls for fuelling/reprovisioning/offloading the dead etc but that pax will not be allowed off Surely it’s not possible to cruise half the world on one tankful?
  14. It’ll test the mettle of the catering & entertainment staff 🙄 I’d suggest a couple of ‘egg & chip nights’ in the MDR between now and disembarkation. Something very plain and ordinary as a complete change from usual cruise fare. Hopefully they’ll be able to embark different guest entertainers and there’s surely an opportunity for a couple of lecturers to fill gaps? Movies every day? The port presenter can certainly put their feet up
  15. Timed at 18.10 Let’s hope this is what people have been waiting for. Another potential 48 hours waiting for a definitive policy seems a long time but ...
  16. It feels to me that all the cruise companies should withdraw from the market. Reimburse/recompense/refurb their ships/repatriate their Asian crew. Then, sit down and make plans for their renaissance. This, like all things, will pass. It’s awful now but it’s a great opportunity for the future if the funds hold out and they really renew their offer, as the marketeers would say. Fingers crossed. I’ve written off our July week on Iona but I’m hopeful for the Med in mid-October. If that’s impossible then we’ll have a lot more than lost holidays to fret about
  17. Carnival on £17.70 at 8.15am and dropping like a stone Unless the cruise industry folds, never to recover, which I feel is extremely unlikely, they’re going to be a huge bargain soon for anyone who doesn’t have them and who plans even one 14 day cruise per annum for the next decade. Don't look for big dividends in the short term though
  18. Eddie99

    Coronavirus

    Early reports of a third UK fatality Man in his 60s with underlying health problems who had recently returned from Italy Half of me wants to know about underlying health problems , half of me thinks it’s none of my business. He can’t have been that sick if he was travelling ...?
  19. The US State Dept has just thrown the cat among the pigeons. What will this mean for insurance etc? ”This is a fluid situation. CDC notes that older adults and travelers with underlying health issues should avoid situations that put them at increased risk for more severe disease. This entails avoiding crowded places, avoiding non-essential travel such as long plane trips, and especially avoiding embarking on cruise ships. Passengers with plans to travel by cruise ship should contact their cruise line companies directly for further information and continue to monitor the Travel.state.gov website and see the latest information from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/index.html. (CDC = Centres for Disease Controls ... US central body for such things)
  20. Eddie99

    Coronavirus

    From the link about the US State Dept “advisory”, as I think they call it The situation v-a-v cruising and cruise lines has just changed exponentially “This is a fluid situation. CDC notes that older adults and travelers with underlying health issues should avoid situations that put them at increased risk for more severe disease. This entails avoiding crowded places, avoiding non-essential travel such as long plane trips, and especially avoiding embarking on cruise ships. Passengers with plans to travel by cruise ship should contact their cruise line companies directly for further information and continue to monitor the Travel.state.gov website and see the latest information from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/index.html. ”
  21. Eddie99

    Coronavirus

    The situation in Italy is alarming Here are the current figures ”There are now 366 deaths in Italy and the number of confirmed cases go up by 25% - from 5,883 on Saturday to 7,375.” How many days are they ahead of us? Will our numbers rise in the same way?
  22. Unless you are buying them to sell at a profit in the short term, I think it’s worthwhile for every regular cruiser to look at share purchase At the moment a £2000 investment nets you the OBC detailed previously, together with quarterly dividends of about £40. (These may be curtailed for a while if the cruise industry is hard hit by Coronavirus.) However, it doesn’t take many years to recoup the initial investment. 2 x 14 night cruises pa x 7 years and you’re ‘in profit’. Don’t sell your shares, leave them in your will - your beneficiaries will get whatever the shares are then worth - £2000, £5000, whatever. Always remember shares can go down as well as up, always remember the shareholder obc might be reduced/withdrawn (unlikely, methinks) and don’t buy shares you can’t afford. If you have £2000 gathering 1%pa in an ISA, Carnival shares feel a better investment to me. But take care. Don’t risk money you can’t afford to lose
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