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  1. We cancelled a November cruise out of Southampton to Florida due to having mixed vaccine and changing protocols. If you have a mixed vaccine you might be permitted to go straight to the ship. Otherwise you will have to quarantine in a hotel until the ship leaves plus pay for covid tests on the 2nd and 8th days, even if you leave the country and don't use them. Too many hoops to jump through. I would consider cancelling under the Princess Cruise with Confidence.
  2. Last week I sent an email to Jan Swartz stating that HAL accepts mixed vaccination for cruises outside the US and that the same should apply to Princess out of Southampton. Sounds like someone is listening. Just yesterday I cancelled a transatlantic cruise on the Sky for November departing out of the UK because Princess would not accept AZ/Moderna as fully vaccinated. When the reason for cancelling was given the Princess rep did not mention a change in policy. Since the cruise ends in Florida the CDC requirements may still apply. Today the USVI announced that all cruise passengers over the age of 12 must be fully vaccinated. Since the cruise stops there I would assume the CDC requirements would apply. I cancelled because there were too many other protocol issues that would have to change before the cruise.
  3. Our daily time on YouTube. Don a Travel agent said that Cruise Lines changed the rules on vaccination after Canada administered mixed Vaccines and extended the time between shots. Due to this he said we should get all money paid returned. I imagine FCC would transfer to next cruise or account to use by Dec. 2022. England has a 24 hours to get from the airport to the cruise. We are booked to fly in two days early and that makes us have to Quarantine for a period. We got a Promotion on the air and cannot change air date or time. To do that we lose our Promotion and it was very good. We checked out the price of the flight and it is a lot of money to lose.
  4. RCI has added their new wrinkle to the mix. Your two mRNA vaccines must be taken between 28 and 42 days!!! If your second Pfizer or Moderna was more than 6 weeks after the first, then you are now considered unvaccinated by RCI.
  5. Here is the text from the Princess web site FAQ on proof of vaccination. You must show information for each dose which includes type of vaccine. The following formats are acceptable proofs of full vaccination: COVID-19 vaccination card (original card only; no photocopies accepted), digital COVID-19 certificate (QR code acceptable); or record of COVID-19 vaccination from a healthcare provider including original digital email notification, personal electronic health record, or government Immunization information system (IIS) record. The following identifiers for the proof of full vaccination should include your first and last name, a patient identifier such as date of birth, medical record ID, or government ID, type of vaccine (manufacturer), date of all doses administered, lot number, if available, and healthcare professional or clinic site name. The proof of full vaccination must show that your final dose of vaccine was received at least two weeks (14 days) prior to the beginning of the cruise. Alternative proof may be required if there are questions and concerns about the proof of vaccination you produce. During check-in at the terminal, you will be required to show full proof of vaccination. If you are unable to produce the described proof of vaccination, you will be denied boarding without refund, credit or compensation of any kind.
  6. I sent an e-mail to my MP, Christine Elliott and Premier Ford this morning. Maybe if enough people make their wishes known, we can get a third shot. Here is the content: I followed the advice of the provincial covid task force and took the first vaccine available to me. That turned out to be AstraZenica in April and then Moderna in June. On July 16 Carnival Corp announced that those with mixed vaccination would be considered as unvaccinated and would be denied boarding. I appreciate the province requesting the federal government to approach WHO to get mixed vaccinations accepted as fully vaccinated internationally. However, I recognize the WHO moves slowly and the issue would not be resolved prior to my planned cruise. Cruise Lines refer to CDC rules and I cannot rely on those rules to change in the near term. The Quebec government is permitting those with mixed vaccination to get a third dose of an mRNA vaccine in order to travel internationally. I request the Ontario government to follow the lead of Quebec in allowing those with confirmed 2021 international travel plans to get an additional shot of mRNA vaccine. Like Quebec, this third dose would be provided at the risk of the recipient (as there are no scientific studies). I will take an additional shot if it means that I can complete my vacation plans. At the present time Canada has received 68 million doses of vaccine, more than two doses for every eligible Canadian. With an excess of vaccine and as mass vaccination clinics are being wound down, getting an additional dose would not delay others from being vaccinated. I request your advocacy on behalf of those who followed the government recommendations and are now being discriminated for doing so.
  7. This morning I received a phone call from Julie in response to my email to Jan Swartz. This confirms that all e-mails sent to jswartz@princesscruises.com are read. We talked for ~40 minutes on the mixed vaccination topic and other related issues. Here are some things I learned. Princess is following CDC rules on vaccination. This also applies to cruises out of Southampton. Carnival Corp Executive Management has decided to require vaccinations through the end of 2021 (past the conditional sail order). That is not to say that the mixed vaccination rule could change. Everything is in flux. Check the web site daily. Her first suggestion was that I get a third vaccine. When I told her that the Ontario Provincial health department (Hamilton) notified us that booster shots are not permitted she investigated whether I would get a medical exemption. Unfortunately for me our cruise is at capacity for medical exemptions. If you cancel before final payment due to having mixed vaccines Princess will waive all cancellation fees. I did mention that RCI is accepting mixed vaccinations for European cruises and the medical studies from UK and Europe that show better antibody response from AZ/mRNA mix than two AZ. If Ontario won't offer a third shot, I wonder if I could drive to Quebec to receive one. I have also sent emails to my MP, Christine Elliott and Chrystia Freeland regarding this matter. I have not received a response from any of them.
  8. Daniel A: There is nothing in the article about the CDC defining of Fully Vaccinated. I have also sent emails to politicians. Hopefully Chrystia Freeland can take up the issue with her US counterpart.
  9. Everyone who is affected by this policy should make their opinions known to Princess Cruises and Jan Swartz. If they get enough feedback they will change their policy. I sent the following to their email: customerrelations@princesscruises.com jswartz@hollandamericagroup.com Good day. Princess policy to consider those with mixed vaccinations (AstraZenica plus mRNA vaccine) as unvaccinated is discriminatory and unscientific to the hundreds of thousands of Canadians and millions of Europeans who have followed their federal and provincial Ministry of Health advisories on vaccination. In Canada mixing of vaccines has been approved by the National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI) based on science and the availability of vaccines due to supplier delivery issues. I want Princess to amend their vaccination policy to consider those with any two WHO approved vaccinations as fully vaccinated. · Canadians who first received AstraZenica were recommended to take either Pfizer or Moderna as their second dose due to the risk of VITT associated with AstraZenica. · Medical studies from Europe have demonstrated that the immune response from taking Pfizer or Moderna after AstraZenica is greater than two doses of AstraZenica. The immune response is similar to taking two doses of mRNA vaccine. · Those with mixed vaccinations are considered to be fully vaccinated in Canada. This includes Prime Minister Justin Trudeau! · Canadians are not permitted to receive a third dose of vaccine to meet your policy. It would be unethical to take a third dose when excess doses in Canada are being donated to COVAX. In conclusion, those with mixed vaccinations are at no greater risk of contracting or communicating Covid-19 than those with two similar doses. What is the medical evidence supporting the current policy? There are business reasons to review this policy. · Over 1.4 million Canadians have mixed vaccinations with half being AstraZenica and mRNA. · Those affected are over 40 years of age as AstraZenica was not given to those younger. This is the age prime demographic for Princess Cruise passengers. · Germany and other EU countries have similarly provided mixed vaccinations to their population · There are thousands of loyal Princess cruisers wanting to get back to cruising who are being denied by this policy.. Without a change in this policy I will be forced to cancel two upcoming cruises (22 days). Looking forward to your response and being able to cruise again. Regards
  10. Canada just announced the border reopening protocols with the United States. As of August 9 fully vaccinated Americans can enter Canada for non-essential travel without quarantine. They just need a negative PCR test plus proof of vaccination. Waiting to see what rules the US will set for Canadians. If they accept our mixing of vaccines to cross the border then so should the cruise lines.
  11. Has anyone else had problems with the app on a Samsung Galaxy Tab A? The app worked in Feb 2020 but how freezes at the log in screen. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the latest version of the app with no better results.
  12. Great thread. We also miss the barrel chairs. Last cruise brought in a chair from the balcony. Now we look at a balcony deluxe (obstructed or regular) on Royal class ships just to get a couch and keep the wife happy. Here in Canada I am still noting items not in for a few weeks at a time. Our supply chain is not broken but suffering. Today I walked around with sticker shock at the prices of food going up.
  13. We agree on the Best Ever cost analysis In January we surfed the cost for 2021 fall transatlantics. We were surprised to find the 15-day Sky Princess tropical passage cruise priced the same for Best Price and Best Sale Ever. Don't know if it was a glitch or a local promotion but no one else managed to see the same pricing. We had our travel agent book it for us even though we get the elite perks. With the perks for free plus $100 OBC each we decided to book a mini-suite for the first time. Yes the perks were included for free!!! On top of that the price dropped twice through the week lowering the cost by C$600 each. We booked our flight and found an additional promotion that reduced the air fare by $400 each so we booked premium economy to UK. The web site has since been corrected. This is all too good to be true. We are praying that everyone gets vaccinated and the cruise proceeds as scheduled.
  14. Location upgrade means that all cabins within a category (with minor exceptions) are priced the same as the lowest cabin in that category. Example: All cabins BB to BF are price as a BF. MB to MF are prices as MF. You can best see the pricing on the Princess web site when getting a cruise quote. If you like your cabin you might qualify for a lower price.
  15. Princess web site appears to be specific to your geographic location. There are often promotions for specific states or provinces. We booked the Sky Princess Tropical Passage for November 2021. For whatever reason the Best Ever Package is priced the same as the Best Price (no perks) price. As well, there was a promotion to credit $400US per person on air fare. We booked a mini-suite. No one else we know has been able to get the same promotion.
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