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  1. I can't answer your question about cruise vs container ships. Admittedly I'm not following cruise industry as closely as I have in the past. So, if the US is policy more lenient than Bahamas and Manila, not sure what the argument is here. US will allow crew to disembark if they follow rules. Bahamas and Manila are outright closed to crew?
  2. The ships were free to sail anywhere in the world to repatriate crew ( other than US ports). Not a US issue. Sail to Nassau or Bermuda and fly them home from there. Transfer crew amongst ships and sail them to a close to home port. All the CDC has done is say....if you want to use a US port, you are going to follow our rules, even if you don't like them. Otherwise, you are free to use whatever means you'd like. Sorry, can't blame CDC just because you don't like their rules.
  3. It is ok to disagree with the policy. But the point I am making is....the policy is what it is. It has been since April now. Blame the US for a policy you may not agree with. Don't blame the US if crew are still stuck on ships. At this point, that blame lies solely and squarely with the cruise lines who have not taken alternative measures to repatriate crew.
  4. ...that offer of a bonus future cruise credit isn't looking like too much of bonus, either.
  5. So true. Artificially inflated values of future cruise credits leading to artificially inflated cruise prices. Predictable outcome there and its probably why 50% of passengers are reportedly opting for cash refunds.
  6. The US has been closed to cruise ships since April 9. The government has issued specific guidance outlining how to disembark crew. The cruiselines decided that following the guidance was too expensive and impractical, which very well may be true. I agree with your assessment of low risk, but this is not a US issue. You have a situation involving non-US flagged vessels with an overwhelming majority of non-US citizens. We are more than 30 days beyond the April 9 no sail date. If there are still crew "stuck" onboard, that is not a good situation. The employer has not taken necessary steps to get its employees home. We don't have to agree with the US mandate, but at some point, we have to stop blaming the US for crew still "stuck" onboard one month after the US mandate was issued.
  7. They could do what airlines do when a flight is oversold....look for volunteers/offer future credit or involuntarily bump people. I don't think they'll limit occupancy to 50% though. It would be bad news for passengers from an economic standpoint. Prices would have to adjust upward, but you'd have more room onboard.
  8. This isn't even a US issue. You have a bunch of cruise ships, none of which are registered in the US, with a bunch of people onboard, the overwhelming majority of which are non US citizens. No one onboard is reported to be sick or dying. From the US perspective, given the current battle being fought, how does this even rise to a high priority? US has clearly outlined what needs to be done to debark passengers. If the ships don't want to follow that procedure, then they can work with Bahamas, Bermuda or wherever the ship is registered. Alternatively, the ship is fully mobile and can work with other nations to repatriate crew, as many are doing. Alternatively, they can do nothing and force crew to remain onboard and attempt to silence them. Holland, Carnival, Royal, Princess, Costa already have responded and have numerous ships anchored off Manila and have been actively working to repatriate crew. When asked to make a comment about the situatuon, the article reports NCL did not respond.
  9. Ok, thank you. I am taking a break from cruise ship travel for a little. Going to focus on some land based vacations within driving distance for now.
  10. No limitations if you enter an upgrade advantage bid. We've gone many times from interior to balcony for minimum bid. Also, don't assume we spend a week in a walk in closet. We sleep there from 1-7, freshen up from 8-9 and again from 5-6. The rest of the time we are either off exploring the beautiful ship or some awesome destination. I don't think you're a snob, we just value different things. I just think the comment, which I know you didn't make, that said that NCL regularly sells out ships and doesn't offer fire sale prices was wrong. Since they price too high in advance, they usually have available cabins that are offered real cheap. I don't know if it will continue in the post Covid era, so we will see.
  11. It's contrary to what he's been saying for many years. It's a failed attempt to create a perception that just isn't reality. The supply of cruise ship cabins was too great before Covid. especially in Alaska and Caribbean. Now, the market is oversaturated with cabins with stable or perhaps even falling demand. Not exactly a good environment to support high prices.
  12. Sorry, your analysis is not accurate. I've cruised 4-5 times per year for the last three or four years. They regularly price real high in advance and then cabin dump anywhere from 14 days until sailing. They rarely sell out there ships prior to 14 days from departure. I only sail NCL when they dump cabins and have had no issues with getting last minute cabins at decent locations to a variety of destinations. There are other CC members that have the same experience. You have to carefully understand NCL's pricing models and use them to your advantage to get the last minute deals. 11 day cruises at $499. 7 day cruises at $299, 15 day cruises for $499. The list could go on and on. The pricing method you described above is not the model I use. I only sail NCL because it is the only line that dumps cabins. They have made cruising extremely affordable for last minute cruisers. They can't be beat for last minute pricing, (at lease based on history). For early bookers, not so affordable.
  13. Lets be clear, the CDC or US government has not prevented crew from disembarking. In fact, it has outlined in great detail the procedure for disembarking crew in the US. The CLIA has called the procedure impractical and cost prohibitive. Many cruise lines, NCL included, have correctly chosen to repatriate crew by using their ships. This is the correct call if they are not going to meet the CDC requirements. Holding non essential crew onboard, stranded at sea, for this length of time is a bad idea.
  14. No doubt. As I said, I could be reading too much into it. It was a reaction, not suggesting it is truth. Had he said something softer like, our ships are pristine because our hard working crew makes them that way. After consulting with my VP, we collectively decided to open the bars....that sounds I lot different than me, me, me, I, I, I.
  15. This is true. You would think he would delegate pricing to someone else. It's funny, though, as I rewatched the CNBC interview, he comes across to me as a "micro-manager"...he must be a joy to work for, not work with. If you listen carefully..... ......my ships are pristine... ....I am a neat freak.... .....I called my VP of operations and told him to let them eat lunch, open the bars, and then begin disembarkation because we are not sailing today... Does he empower any one else to make decisions? Could shed some insight into Andy's departure. I might be reading into it, but seems pretty self-centered, all about FDR. That's also the impression I get from NCL customer service, too. Screw the customer, it's all about FDR.
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