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  1. Very surprising to hear about the informality and demographic of this cruise. We sailed on Odyssey the first two weeks of January this past year and the average age was typical for Seabourn. The first week was primarily Germans and Americans ( we embarked from St. Martin) while the second week was populated with British citizens- The access of flights from LHR to Barbados is relatively reasonable. Many, if not most, were retired and looking for relaxation after the holidays. I have noticed that the current on-line fares are quite inexpensive which may be a f
  2. Mofrances- we just completed two weeks Hong Kong to Singapore on Silversea and it was a lovely cruise- its itinerary is very similar to Ovation’s in January. Please be aware that the cruise ports are quite distant from the city center which may not be the best option for your family. Our stop in Saigon was one of the closest on the itinerary and it was 40 minutes, while Bangkok was two and a half hours each way (we opted for an overnight excursion). In the past the smaller ships of both lines were able to navigate the rivers and dock closer to the city but the 600
  3. Markham- we just completed a 2 week cruise on the Muse and also cruised on the Spirit in June- we thoroughly enjoyed both ships! We love the size- not too big, not too small. When we tried Seabourn’s Encore after experiences on its smaller ships we were very disappointed in the experience. It seemed as if the additional demand of more passengers and less deck space was too much for the crew. Silversea seems to have managed the increased load without service issues and the ship’s design handles the additional passengers without feeling cramped. The dining options are mo
  4. Currently sailing on the Muse and have enjoyed several breakfasts in Atlantide. Much calmer Atmosphere than La Terrazza and the food a notch above. Would highly recommend it unless you have time constraints.
  5. Just show up- it’s never been completely full and we are into our second week on the Muse.
  6. We are just leaving Vietnam now and boarded the Muse in Hong Kong. I was concerned about the unrest , particularly because we arrived on a Saturday evening. We had no encounters in Kowloon and traveled everywhere. Perhaps we were fortunate but it just wasn’t a problem during our 3 night stay. Our flight from LAX to Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific was a full flight but comfortable. Having a wonderful time on the Muse- the ports have been challenging as they are quite a distance from the city centers, but the food and service are still great! We will be going overni
  7. We returned to Silversea last June after 10 years -we had been cruising with Seabourn following our first two cruises with SS. I cannot express how much we enjoyed the excellent food and service- we felt it was superior to Seabourn and booked another two week cruise - we leave tomorrow! Book a journey and experience fabulous vacation!
  8. We tried to book with both Seabourn and Silversea and found their business class fares to be higher with inconvenient itineraries. When we inquired about the availability of routes we had identified as being more convenient or less expensive, the response was that the airlines had a certain allocation of seats at a specific fare and there was no flexibility. i must add, however, that we were always booking within four months of our cruises which may have influenced the fares and as a result we usually found better prices on our own, even with perks of hotel transfers an
  9. We have sailed some interesting ocean swells but it appears that you are in the midst of angry ones! A silver lining- no one knows whether it’s the turbulent sea or the cocktails that keeps one from walking a straight line!😉 May you find smooth sailing very soon.
  10. It is not ageism or nastiness- it is a question of appropriateness. Children are children- they can be wonderful at one moment and have a meltdown shortly after. The SS brochures do not feature children, or teenagers and young adults partying around the pool………their market is an adult clientele who enjoy fine dining and services. Just as a passenger who enjoys the informality of dining in their shorts or swimwear would most likely choose another line, putting toddlers and even older children together with adults on a small ship with no activities is setting everyone u
  11. Mrs. Waldo you did a fine job with your children- I had my daughter later in life and was always concerned about good manners and behavior as I had seen too many out- of -control kids with indifferent parents. My mother never allowed bad behavior( there were 8 of us ) and our daughter was raised with the same values. Unfortunately there are many parents who have no concerns- and this is the dilemma. Cruising on the top three lines is not inexpensive and when unruly children/passengers ruin the experience it is time and money ill-spent. It is a shame that we all have to
  12. Agreed! The concept of attracting families with the hope of increasing a future client base seems ludicrous. If these customers are turned away to Disney or Crystal it is highly likely they will jump to an adult- oriented experience when their kids are grown, particularly if they have been denied access. We certainly spent many vacations in child -oriented resorts but won’t go near them now! It would seem that the most competitive market is the large ship experience- too many players with the same product. SIlversea, Seabourn and Regent have smaller ships t
  13. Great! I guess you will reconsider Silversea. Bottom line is all the luxury lines will continue to be impacted by families if there are no policies set by corporate since the parents seem incapable of distinguishing “age appropriate” cruises for their children.
  14. You have been fortunate to have experienced “child-free or teenagers only”cruises and it is likely that you traveled in the spring and fall seasons. We have cruised with Seabourn and SS from late May through August, with the exception of two Seabourn cruises in Jan. and Feb., because it was the most convenient time for my husband, who had not yet retired. Our five cruises on Seabourn certainly had more children aboard -and at younger ages than our four on Silversea. We will certainly shift to the shoulder seasons now that his time is flexible- but it does seem unfair that we sh
  15. It’s not just SS- we had 2 cruises with unruly children on Seabourn- one in the Med and one in the Caribbean. Unfortunately some parents fail to note or really don’t care that these cruise lines are adult oriented. In both cases the parents seemed to enjoy themselves poolside while their children took over the pool deck. On our recent cruise on SS there was only one 11 year old who tried to make the best of things but looked rather bored. It appeared to me on our previous cruises with SS that the demographic was older than that of Seabourn and less likely to have young families ab
  16. We enjoyed an antipasti plate- lovely selection of meats and cheeses, or some cold shrimp, hot spring rolls, and caviar. The Arts Cafe always has a variety of snacks and the ‘always available menu” also has some appetizing snacks. There are so many options and it’s always a “yes” on SS. We enjoy small bites with an afternoon glass of champagne, particularly after a very light lunch or a busy excursion-it’s something we never indulge in at home and is such a pleasure on vacation! I hope you choose to have a room service dinner-nothing better than to put on a robe and ind
  17. I think you will be comfortable on either Silversea or Seabourn. They are both wonderful lines with personalized service and good food. We have sailed with both -5 on Seabourn and are taking our fifth cruise with Silversea (and our second this year) in November. We found the crew on Silversea to be more polished and the food more varied. We did enjoy La Dame on three different evenings and did not have a problem with the upcharge as the experience was really lovely. There are more jackets in all the dining venues but I would not be concerned by excessive formality. The
  18. We did our “homework” before booking both of our cruises with SS but our requested flights were tagged with upgrade charges to the extent that we could book it ourselves for a better price - believe me we spent a lot of time on our research as did our TA . We were offered convoluted connections for our fare to Europe in June but expected that our flights to Asia would be easier considering that we live in the Southwest. Since we our now 0 for two we will always make our inquiries through SS but not too optimistic about the outcome.
  19. I don’t know what Regent’s position is but Seabourn certainly accepts babies- we had them in the pool during our 14 day Caribbean cruise this past January.
  20. Agreed! It’s unfortunate that booking a cruise itinerary is complicated by the concern of having children and babies onboard. We enjoy the Med in June and July and often combine a shorter cruise with a land vacation but are now reluctant to do so as it seems that families are booking more of the 7 night itineraries. We had an unfortunate experience on Seabourn a couple of years ago where there were about 7 or 8 children in the 5 to 10 year age group who took over the pool deck and hot tubs- it certainly was not the relaxed ambience we were seeking. Apparently Crystal o
  21. We just spent 11 nights on SS Spirit in June after a 9 year hiatus and just booked a 14 night cruise on the Silver Muse to Asia in the fall. Our first two cruises (about 9 years ago)on SS were disappointing because of the food and we moved on to five cruises with Seabourn. Initially we enjoyed the dining on Seabourn ( Legend, Quest, Sojourn, Encore, And Odyssey), but our experience on Encore was so negative that it took almost 2 years for us to return to a 14 night cruise on Odyssey this past January. After the first week the dining seemed repetitive and was not that enjoyable.
  22. My TA was just as frustrated as we were- apparently she was only able to communicate through email and received the same responses as we did!
  23. No- we are into about $5000 pp. However the SS upgrade would have cost $1999 each way pp, plus deviation fee of $150 pp AND an additional $1500 pp for terrible connections. We inquired about the flight we wanted, and eventually booked ourselves, and SS quoted that fare as being $7500 pp. We decided that it was better to lose the offered one night hotel and airport transfers in order to book a better flight on a desirable airline. A frustrating experience but we went through the same process for our previous SS cruise in June and our January Seabourn cruise. I guess th
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