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  1. 1 hour ago, LadyMac72 said:

    8 day Alaska cruise in September coming up.


    Current clothing game plan:

    2 black leggings (can be layered/worn under jeans for additional warmth)

    2 jeans/pants

    1 waterproof pants

    2 short sleeve flannel shirts

    2 short sleeve shirts/tunics

    2 long sleeve flannel shirts

    1 fleece pullover

    1 fleece vest

    1 raincoat with hood


    1 dress for elegant nights

    Underwear/socks/lounge pants for in room

    2 pairs of shoes


    Too much? The plan is to get everything into one suitcase....


    What are you wearing to dinner the other nights?  

  2. 56 minutes ago, Ferry_Watcher said:

    As a teacher I am sure that you know this already, but for anyone else who may be traveling on a one way cruise from a US port and ending at Canadian port, please make sure that you are traveling with your passport book if you plan to fly home to an US airport. 

    I have worked at Pier 91 in Seattle and we had a similar end of the season cruise that would be disembarking in Vancouver, BC.  When we were checking in passengers we were instructed to ask anyone traveling with just a birth certificate or passport card what their travel plans were to return to the US.  If they said fly from Vancouver, BC, we had to tell them that they needed a passport book to fly back into the US from Canada.  Telling them at check-in gave them 8 days to figure out how to cross the border (bus, Amtrak, rental car) and get to a US airport to fly back to their home state.  Luckily, there were not too many passengers that this news effected, but there were some.   It was a big surprise, not to mention additional time and expense.

    We always travel with a passport while cruising, just to be safe. 

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  3. 2 hours ago, Momma Rene said:

    The problem is the medication my husband is taking.  He cannot be in the sun too long.  I am thinking a lot of people have a similar issue.

    I understand. They do I’ve some shade up there, but I have no idea how hard it is to get. 

  4. 1 hour ago, Momma Rene said:

    Reading all the negative reviews of the Retreat on the Millennium makes me think I made a terrible mistake.  We needed the shade and I guess I was thinking that since the Retreat was on the top of the ship, they would have figured that out and made it appealing.  Also, the lounge area is getting bad reviews due to the chairs being so uncomfortable. 


    I purchased the non reimbursable fare to save the $800 difference.  Feeling furious that Celebrity did not think thru the comfort of their suite passengers who were willing to pay extra for amenities that I now discover cannot be used.

    I wasn’t in a suite on the Summit, but our friends were and we had the opportunity to use the lounge for a little bit and see the sun deck. We were perfectly comfortable in the retreat, as we’re they. As for the sun deck, I’m a sun lover so that won’t be an issue for us. I always looks for loungers in the sun. However, I understand others prefer the shade. It seems like upon embarkation we had drinks up there and we were at a table in the shade. 

  5. 25 minutes ago, GTJ said:


    To review this, it is best to first divide cruise itineraries into two distinct categories: (1) A cruise that transports passengers from one port to another (a "one-way" cruise), and (2) a cruise that does not transport passengers from one port to another, but simply goes on an excursion to several other ports before returning back to port of embarkation (a "round-trip" cruise).


    For a one-way cruise, the general rules are that one-way transportation between two ports both located within the United States must be provided on a U.S. flag vessel. The purpose is to protect the U.S. shipping industry, and not to allow foreign entities to engage in domestic transportation. But where the transportation is between one port located within the United States and another port located within some other country, there is no domestic transportation being provided, and it would be unfair--from an international perspective--for the United States to permit only vessels of its flag to sail the route and to deny vessels of the other country's flag to also sail the route. In fact, vessels of any flag can sail such routes that provide international transportation between two separate countries.


    (There's a few exceptions to the one-way cruise rules. First, transportation between two U.S. ports may be provided by a foreign flag vessel if it is a long-distance cruise and it stops somewhere enroute at a "distant" foreign port. The idea is that the vessel would not really be serving domestic transportation needs, and there was a desire to avoid creating a loophole where vessels could simply serve a close-by foreign port for what is otherwise domestic transportation. So under this exception, foreign flag vessels may transport passengers one-way between California and Florida, provided that they stop at a "distant" foreign port (such as, for example, Cartagena, Columbia). There's another exception that allows for one-way transportation between the mainland United States and both Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, at least temporarily, in recognition that there are no U.S. flag vessels presently providing transportation on these routes.)


    For a round-trip cruise, the general rules are that an excursion may be made a foreign flag vessel if it includes at least one stop in a port located in a foreign country. that foreign port need not be "distant," but can as simple as, for example, a Seattle cruise stopping in Victoria, or a San Diego cruise stopping in Ensenada. These rules are harder to justify than those for one-way cruises. Again, the primary basis is the protection of the U.S. shipping industry, and so imposition of a requirement of a stop in a foreign country somewhat alleviates the concern that foreign entities are engaging in domestic transportation. Yet, is this rule not really illusory, particular when compared to the more stringent rules applicable to one-way cruises? Is a round-trip cruise not, in essence, a service provided in the U.S. domestic market that should rightfully be protected and reserved for U.S. entities? The reality is that there are no U.S. flag vessels (other than NCL's "Pride of America"), and even if there were, the higher wages demanded by U.S. crews would make fares not affordable for many.


    The rules were first established with passage of the Passenger Vessel Services Act in 1886, in a different era where there were U.S. flag vessels and a U.S. shipping industry to protect. There are no vessels or industry left to protect. The effect of the act, at least in the case of Alaska cruises, is to ensure that ancillary business from Americans goes to Canada. Vessels either sail from Vancouver, rather than more convenient Seattle, or stop in ports not particularly desirable for many, such as Victoria or Prince Rupert. In other words, the effect of the act is exactly opposite of its purpose: it no longer protects U.S. industry, but instead hands over commercial dollars to our Canadian neighbors. Perhaps it is time to re-think the act.

    Thanks so much for your explanation!

  6. 4 minutes ago, phoenix_dream said:

    I think it’s already starting. Look how many people on this thread are already questioning whether the affected individuals had valid vaccine proof, with no evidence pointing in that direction.  Vaccines are not 100% protection. Tests are not 100% accurate. Presuming these folks stay non symptomatic, it’s lucky this is happening so fast. It will give us all real insight into how Celebrity will handle this.


    Personally, as a fully vaccinated person I am less concerned about getting seriously ill on a ship, and more concerned about what would happen to me should I test positive. I don’t want to be stuck in a cabin for days, or in some type of uncomfortable quarantine on land and not able to get home.

    Me too!


    If only two people on the ship test positive, that’s a good thing!  It means everything they have put in place, including the vaccine requirements, are working. 

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  7. 3 minutes ago, abbydancer said:

    Neither am I, so I don't actually know anything.  I'm guessing (and total guess) that they're not asking you do to it, but you're welcome to if you want.  Or I might be totally off base.  

    That said, Celebrity seems to think they have a workaround.  I'm sailing on the Equinox out of Ft. Lauderdale in October, so we'll see what they do.  (Best suggestion I heard on one of their threads was show card once in international water, and walk the plank if you can't produce it).

    So how far from the port(s) is international waters?

  8. 17 minutes ago, PhotoGal07 said:

    Whew ok.  I *think* I've got this.

    Canada does not want us right now, will not let ships from American ports in.  There is a law that requires ships to stop at a foreign port if they start and end in the same country.  For Alaska this means that up until now if you wanted to sail from Washington to Alaska you had to (by law) stop in Canada. 

    So to get Alaska cruises up and moving Congress passed a workaround law a last month that said that the cruise ships are allowed to sail directly from Washington to Alaska without stopping at a foreign port (ie Canada).  The bill was only allowed to happen because of the included language about the conditional sail order (95% of the people to be vaccinated or they had to do test runs).  

    The CDC is saying that by passing the workaround law, that Congress basically ratified the conditional sail order, since it was part of the conditions in the bill.

    Florida is suing the administration to get rid of the conditional sail order.  If the injunction wins, and they get rid of the conditional sail order, it MAY affect the law about being able to sail from Washington to Alaska without stopping in Canada.  Alaska is clearly not happy about all this, and is also suing to be allowed to keep on keeping on.  


    Ok. I was aware of the law about stopping in a foreign port. I still don’t even understand why or how that is beneficial to Americans. 

    Why only 95%?  Is it for those to young to receive the vaccine?  Why not just make it 100% and leave your children at home until the pandemic passes, as other pandemics have. 

    Why can’t Florida just have that requirement for all businesses except travel, like planes and ships where people will be around others for extended periods of time. 

    So if Alaska doesn’t want cruise ships there, then why are they suing?  🙄

    15 minutes ago, PhotoGal07 said:

    I'm under the impression that asking for verification in any way would be against Florida state law.  But it's super complicated, and I'm not a lawyer. 

    Sounds complicated. I see both sides. I don’t think businesses should have access to our medical records, including vaccinations. However, there are always exceptions to laws (schools for instance) so I think they should just exempt cruise ships. 

  9. 4 hours ago, Barsnikel said:

    I booked a May northbound out of Vancouver.  I figure that by then they will have most of the requirements finalized.  I did ask the "what if Canada is still closed" question, and Celebrity responded they would then go out of Seattle, with no additional cost to passengers.  We shall see.....


    Ours ends in Vancouver.  Hopefully they would do the same for us. 

  10. 18 minutes ago, Northern Aurora said:



    I am probably not the best person to explain the issue but this is my understanding:  The Florida lawsuit essentially wants to throw out the conditional sailing order.  The CDC position is that when Congress passed the Alaska Tourism Recovery Act to allow limited Alaska itineraries later this summer Congress also essentially ratified the CSO.  The ATRA was based on the CSO being in place.  So if Florida prevails the limited 2021 season for Alaska cruises is essentially burned toast.  Hence why Alaska media is following the issue.

    I guess I don’t understand what Florida has to do with Alaska cruises. 

  11. Another book I'd like to purchase is The Alaska Cruise Handbook by Joe Upton.  It was mentioned in the link Glaciers provided. I can't find it in stock in any bookstores around here, which seems odd.  Is anyone familiar with it?  Maybe it's outdated or something.  It was published in 2008.  

  12. 14 hours ago, oaktreerb said:

    Into the Wild by Jon Krakauer

    Tisha (as told to Robert Specht)  teaching  in the Alaska Wilderness

    Coming into the Country by John McPhee

    Shadows on the Koyukuk, true story of Sidney Huntington as told to Jim Rearden    

    Two Old Women by Velma Wallis

    The End of the Road by Tom Bodett (Homer, AK)

    Williwaw by Tom Bodette (YA)

    Two in the Far North by Margaret E. Murie

    If You Lived Here I’d Know Your Name by Heather Lende (I read this on my 21 day Alaska cruise in 2019, about the community of Haines AK)


    A 21 day Alaska cruise sounds wonderful!  We're doing a 13 day cruisetour, which includes a 7 night cruise.  


    14 hours ago, oaktreerb said:

    Another book I really enjoyed but it was more about the Gold Rush in the Yukon (Dawson City) was I Married the Klondike by Laura Beatrice Berton.  The young,  single female  teachers who went to Alaska and the Yukon to teach the local children and the hardships they endured is amazing.  She found a husband and became the mother of Pierre Berton.  This book has a forward by Robert Service


    I dismissed all books about the Gold Rush because I didn't want to focus on that.  However, being a teacher myself I would probably enjoy this book.  Does it get into their love story?  Do you learn much about Alaska?


    12 hours ago, Northern Aurora said:

    I also really enjoyed "I Married the Klondike" by Laura Berton.  Many of her experiences mirrored those of women in gold rush communities, such as Fairbanks where I live, during the same time frame.  Her son's book, "Klondike Fever: The Life and Death of the Last Great Gold Rush" (by Pierre Berton) is also excellent.  Pierre Berton was a great bon vivant of a character who used to visit Fairbanks periodically to do research in the Alaska and Polar Regions Department (think "archives") of the Rasmuson Library on the University of Alaska Fairbanks campus.


    For those interested in Alaska history I would suggest "An Alaska Anthology: Interpreting the Past" which is edited by two Alaskan historians (Stephen Haycox and Mary Mangusso).  A very nice collection of essays ranging from the time of Russian control to more modern issues.  And no, I am not Mary but she is a good friend.


    One book I would not recommend is Michener's "Alaska."  I would particularly not recommend it if the goal is to actually learn something about Alaska.  One of the sessions at the Alaska Historical Society annual meeting in 1988 was a panel discussion about the book.  A part of that panel discussion is published in "Alaska History" (Vol 4, No. 1, Spring 1989).  I particularly enjoyed Dr. Morgan Sherwoods' comments which started with the following statement (found on page 53):  "What troubles me most about James Michener's latest blockbuster is the likelihood that his version of Alaska's history will become the common 'wisdom' for many members of the American reading public for a long time; and his version rejects much modern research, ignores large themes in the historical scholarship of Alaska, often distorts the evidence when it tries to be factural, and tortures the whole truth when it invents historical detail.  In short, I fear that Michener has muddied the history of Alaska beyond clarification for many years."




    Between the two of you, you have me wanting to read I Married the Klondike.  I have already started reading Alaska by Michener.  While I knew it was fictional, I thought it was based on actual historical facts.  Do you know any specifics of what is not factual?  I was hoping to go on the cruise knowing a bit about Alaskan history.  Do you mind if I ask, are you a historian yourself?  

  13. 39 minutes ago, kochleffel said:

    I'm going on a non-cruise to Alaska this summer, and that changed my camera plans. For a cruise, I would have taken a DSLR plus both telephoto and wide-angle lenses (wide-angle can be good for landscapes and inside buildings). But my non-cruise includes two flights on Alaska Airlines, where I don't get a free checked bag, and three stays on land, so I'm going to pack lighter. I'll be taking a compact superzoom camera, which is a little bigger than a pocket camera and somewhat heavier, plus a waterproof pocket camera, along with a flotation wrist strap for the waterproof camera.

    We learned our lesson about not using a flotation strap with our waterproof camera when ours ended up on the bottom of the ocean on a snorkeling excursion in St John. 

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  14. 1 hour ago, Glaciers said:

    One of my favorites is Where the Sea Breaks Its Back by Corey Ford.  It’s about the journey to Alaska by Vitus Bering and Georg Steller.



    If you do a quick search you will find many threads on favorite books. Here’s one.




    Thanks!  So many to choose from I have no idea which to try!


    24 minutes ago, quack2 said:

    Tip of the Iceberg, by Mark Adams.



  15. On 7/6/2019 at 10:48 AM, Clairescurtains said:

    I found a waterproof envelope/holder for my phone at WallMart for about 6$, thanks for that suggestion. I have also found some duck boots at a resonable price, I am ready to pack but will delay a couple more weeks to avoid wrinkles. 

    I have decided to leave my winter coat at home and just take the raincoat plus a fleece jacket, hoodie and regular tops. I do plan on taking some exercise pants that can be put under jeans if I don't eat too much.


    The raincoat is almost knee length and should keep my pants dryer than the disposable type we used last year at Disney. I got soaked several times on that trip.😵 At least it was warm there. 


    Thanks to everyone for their advice


    On 7/7/2019 at 11:56 PM, ErLee said:


    I went back and forth about the camera for our 2 week trip last month, but I ended up taking all my pictures with my Android phone because it was simple, lightweight, and always with me. I don't have mad camera skills, but I think my pictures turned out great! You can check them out if you're interested in my trip report over in the trip reports thread 😃


    On 7/8/2019 at 12:21 PM, Anita Latte said:


    I purchased what they call a rugged point and shoot for Alaska. Waterproof, though I don’t anticipate taking underwater photos, I just didn’t want to worry about taking pictures in the rain, or while whale watching, or on our kayaking and fishing excursions. I purchased one with decent enough specs...and planned to do some photo editing afterwards and that turned out very well. I also picked one that I could handle well if I was wearing gloves (Glacier day). The shape of the Ricoh WG-50 I bought last year was great. And I made sure I had the fastest writing sd card the camera could handle.


    i love the rugged style because you don’t need a case...just put it in your pocket, any pocket and it’s good to go. I did to play with it before leaving and I think that’s important. I figured out and found a handy lens cloth, which is the only thing that is sometimes affected by pocket travel.


    When I purchased, the price was $250...pretty much the upper limit of what I was willing to pay for another camera. I like the recharge via usb. I would generally take this camera out on excursions and then use my other point and shoot or phone on the ship while the rugged charged. Then I would charge my normal point and shoot during the day. Worked very well for me.


    my TR link is in the 2018 sticky.


    On 8/8/2019 at 12:49 AM, Ptroxx said:

    Me I’m bringing dslr with one lens. 18-400mm.  Also bringing a simple pocket point and shoot.    Also bringing a Gopro to take video on the ship.   I’ll pack a carry on with all my gear and change of close just Incase. Also grabbed a few extra memory cards and bringing a few external backup batteries.    

    I’m wondering about camera selection as well. I know we’ll have our cell phones with us. Thanks for suggesting a waterproof pouch to keep them safe!  We will certainly bring our tough camera because it takes decent pictures and can get wet and dropped. The one I’m not sure about is our dslr.  We will have so many clothes to bring that may not make the cut. I’m not that good with it anyhow. 

  16. 37 minutes ago, gcorgain said:

    I think you have made a great choice for an Alaska sailing in particular.


    Thanks!  I thought so too.  It wasn't easy convincing my husband to spend the extra $ over the sky suite until I reminded him about those windows and the potential for bad weather in Alaska.  


    9 minutes ago, CHEZMARYLOU said:

    They were great on a stormy day on our Canada cruise.  The door is hard to open in the wind. The cabin was in need of a makeover and the new décor is inviting.  There are a lot of pictures on CC post revolution of Summit and Millennium, if you can get the search engine to work.


    I bet!  That was my thinking when booking.  I have found plenty of pics since posting this, thanks to the helpful people on here.  🙂


    6 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

    We stayed in a CS on Infinity for our Panama Canal transit cruise.  It was so hot and humid it was nice to have a panoramic view from inside the cabin with AC.  


    I have a feeling I'm going to get so spoiled on this cruise it will be hard to go back to a balcony cabin.  

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  17. Just now, George C said:

     I’ve suite except for the narrow balcony, I book either sky suites or royal suites on millennium class.


    We've already booked the CS.  I liked the floor to ceiling windows for our cruise to Alaska because the weather can be so iffy.  

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  18. 13 minutes ago, CHEZMARYLOU said:

    The Celebrity Suite on Celebrity Summit - Cruise Ship - Cruise Critic


    There are some good shots of the balcony on this site.  Also pictures of the closet around photo 21.  Pictures are pre revolution but you get an idea of the size of the suite and balcony. 

    Perfect!  Thank you!!  That will still be the largest balcony we've ever had!!  I can see why some would have trouble getting in and out of the shower.  I don't think I would want that in another 20 years or so.

  19. 15 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said:

    It was terrific before the renovation – a little worn, but location, layout, furnishings:  wow!  Post renovation the pictures look even better, but reviews say there isn't a comfortable place to sit anywhere.  We have lambskin seat pads for our car [actually motorcycle seat covers]; I would bring them on Celebrity to cushion the chairs/couch in my cabin.

    I should have mentioned our friends stayed in a CS on our Summit cruise to Bermuda. I absolutely loved their suite!  I don’t recall being uncomfortable while sitting in the living area. Perhaps they were referring to the hard chairs on the balcony. 

    15 hours ago, CHEZMARYLOU said:

    The balcony is wide but narrow. There is room for 4 chairs but not loungers. I have some photos on my PC that I an share tomorrow.  The only issue we had with the suite, pre revolution and it was not changed post, was the difficulty of getting into the tub/shower.  It might not be a problem for you though.


    Thank you, this is helpful. I have seen pictures of the tub/shower. I don’t think it will be an issue for us, but I’m quite surprised they didn’t fix this known issue since Celebrity has a lot of loyal, older clientele that would. 

    15 hours ago, mahdnc said:

    It was amazing to me that Celebrity Suites had no balcony when the M class ships first came out.


    Seriously?  Why would anyone want a suite without a balcony?


    14 hours ago, Sam.Seattle said:

    Thank you!  I should have mentioned we had found that video, but it didn’t show what we were looking for, which was primarily the balcony. We are traveling with another couple and I was wondering if the 4 of us would be comfortable out there. It appears we wouldn’t. I would also like to see the closet. I recall our friend showing us hers and it seems like it was quite large for a ship. 

    13 hours ago, jelayne said:

    That looks good but not as comfortable as the pre revolution CS.  The balcony is very narrow and it curves so not sure 4 could sit comfortably and converse.


    Thanks, that’s unfortunate. 

    5 hours ago, chemmo said:

    The living room space on the M class ships is great but the balcony is very narrow.


    The killer for us when we saw the suite was the totally enclosed bedroom and the really high bathtub. Many love real darkness at night so it is either a bonus or an issue depending on your preference. Anyone small or with mobility issues may struggle with the bathtub. When we were on the Millie an elderly couple had booked the CS as a treat for their special anniversary. They found that the wife could not safely get in and out of the tub. The concierge managed to arrange access for then to an empty inside cabin for showering....


    OP going from your picture I don’t think the tub will be an issue for you but if others follow this post do have mobility issues I did want to alert them.


    That must have been very frustrating for them!  I assume the sky suite doesn’t have the same issue. 

    3 hours ago, Cruise a holic said:

    Go on Ytube and see the Summit post renovation Celebrity Suite.  It is the same.  We enjoy the celebrity suite.  A comfortable suite.  Yes the bath tube is high, especially for short or elderly, but ask for a step stool which will be provided for you.   But overall the suite and storage excellent!  


    Yes, we were in the Summit on our last cruise. One couple we hung out with was in a Sky suite and the other in a Celebrity Suite. We were in Concierge class. While we were pleased with our accommodations, they didn’t compare to theirs.  I don’t recall what their balcony looked like.  We booked a Sky suite out of PR while onboard and that cruise got canceled. My husband had promised to book us a suite and he kept his promise by booking one to Alaska. I keep hearing once you try one you never go back. 

    1 hour ago, TeeRick said:


    We just booked the CS on Millennium for Alaska this September.  We sailed in one prior to renovations on Infinity and it was very large and awesome.  But I think the renovations were much needed so I can't wait to check it out in a few months.  I will report back here and post a video for you.  We sailed a CS on Edge but it was smaller and more like the S-Class CS that we have had a few times too.  The furnishings in the Edge CS will probably be similar to the renovated Millennium CS.


    Thanks so much!  That would be great!!  Please include the balcony and closet in your video, if you don’t mind. 

    1 hour ago, TeeRick said:

    chemmo- the high tub issue has been reported here for many years.  And in our experience it definitely is a bit of a challenge in and out.  But mostly because of the narrow spacing between tub and toilet.  It is very strange to me that Celebrity did not correct this obvious design flaw when the did the complete renovation including the bathroom.  Most people who have mobility issues sit on the edge of the tub in the back part and swing their legs around and then stand up.  Of note the CS on the S-Class ships have a high tub too but plenty of spacing between tub and toilet.  Not an issue at all in the Edge CS.


    Fortunately we don’t have mobility issues, but thanks for the heads up. 

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