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  1. One of the best “tours” in Shanghai is the MagLev train that takes you to Shanghai Pudong Airport - at about 300 mph - floating in the air. No other airport in the world has anything like this.

    Cost is 50 RMB, one way.

  2. If I visit the USA and insist that locals accept my Chinese RenMinBi, I am going to have a lot of trouble.


    One of the best and easiest ways to show respect for a culture is using their currency in their country. Some merchants might actually prefer that you use US Dollars - but it is still more respectful to use their currency.

  3. 14 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

    They must send them down for ironing then, as the tight twists they use for the animals would show as wrinkles when done for a different animal.

    HAL is one of those cruise lines that "re-cycles" towel animals to save time and water. 

    The towels are not re-folded.

    The same towel animal that spent the day in your cabin spends the next day in some other cabin.

    USPH Inspectors called it one of the most efficient methods of spreading viruses.

  4. On ‎7‎/‎31‎/‎2019 at 4:28 PM, LewiLewi said:

    We have been on well over a hundred cruises. The short amount of time and the nothing special ports on this Scarlet Lady cruise ship don"t add up to the cost of these cruises.

    Why would anyone pay this much for a short nothing cruise?

    I have been on well over 1,000 cruises.

    Why do cruisers go to Diamond and Emerald shops in St Thomas and Alaska and pay twice as much for dubious quality gems that they could find at home for far less money? Have you seen any Diamond mines in the Caribbean or Alaska?

    Why do mass market cruisers stuff themselves with food until they are ill - just because it is "free"?

  5. Honolulu to Tokyo by air is about 4.5 hours.

    If he can handle that, there are many cruises year-round between the West Coast and Hawaii.

  6. On ‎10‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 1:32 PM, Sue from Canada said:

    I always bring my own little bottles and keep one in my purse when I go to dinner.  I'll use it after handing the waiter the dirty menu.

    Two months ago I visited the USPH People in Miami for my annual updates on Public Health training.

    We discussed all the latest findings and newest regulations.


    The Inspectors and Bacteriologists held many sessions on basic and advanced techniques for preventing virus-related outbreaks.

    During those sessions, we talked about the 2 dirtiest storage places found on most humans; trouser pockets and purses.

    What do many people keep in those places? Mobile telephones and bottles of hand sanitizer.


    Hand sanitizer bottles; You reach your hand into a contaminated pocket or purse to pull out a bottle of sanitizer. If your hand was not contaminated before, it is now. Then you sanitize your hands, using the contaminated bottle. Now your hands are relatively clean?? So you use your clean hands to place the contaminated bottle back into your contaminated pocket or purse, thereby completely undoing any attempt you made to clean your hands in the first place. Assuming that you have purchased one of the very few (and very expensive) sanitizers that can actually kill viral spores, remember that the minimum "dwell time",  the time required for the wet solution to kill viral spores, is 5 minutes. If you dried your hands or the bottle in fewer than 5 minutes, the sanitizer did not have time to do it's job.


    Mobile telephones; After pulling your mobile telephone from your contaminated pocket or purse, do you sanitize it? After handling it and pressing it against your face to talk, do you sanitize it? After loaning it to someone else to talk, do you sanitize it?

    After passing it around to several others so they can see a photo or video, do you sanitize it? After putting your contaminated telephone back into your contaminated pocket or purse, do you sanitize your hands?


    If you answered "Yes" to all these questions, did you use a sanitizer that actually kills viral spores? Probably not.

    Even if you answered "Yes" and did use a sanitizer that really kills viral spores, did you allow the sanitizer to remain wet, and in contact with the surfaces you wanted to sanitize for at least 5 minutes? If it was less than 5 minutes, you wasted your time and your money - and your hands are still contaminated..

  7. 2 hours ago, kevingastreich said:

    Noro Virus is HIGHLY contagious, that means that you get it from others and give it to others. 

    Yes, it is HIGHLY contagious. Just a very few microscopic spores can infect you.

    They can enter your body through a limited number of avenues: mouth, nose, eyes, ears (and on very rare occasions - lungs).

    If the virus spores get into your body through these limited areas, you will most likely get sick.


    You have nearly 100% control of the avenues the virus spores can possibly take to enter your body.

    If your hands do not contaminate items getting into your mouth, you will not get sick.

    If other people's hands do not contaminate the items getting into your mouth, you will not get sick.

    If your hands do not contaminate your eyes, noses, or ears, you will not get sick.

    If you do not press someone else's contaminated mobile telephone against your face, you will not get sick.


    Where do other people's hands have a chance to contaminate items getting into your mouth? Buffets.

    (On extremely rare occasions this can also happen in any food venue - by food prep employees).


    Where do your hands have a chance to contaminate things getting into your mouth? Everywhere.

    How clever do you have to be to avoid contaminating yourself? Not very.


  8. 14 hours ago, Ken the cruiser said:

    Give me a break. So what they are saying is people are stupid. So cruise lines like HAL save some money and put those sanitizer dispensers away until a certain percentage of the stupid people start showing up at the Dr’s office complaining of being sick. Then and only then strategically place them around the ship so as to scare folks into washing their hands. The day HAL starts invoking that practice is the day we stop booking HAL cruises. 

    Are people stupid? You be the judge.

    This year a poll by Pew University found that 13 % of Americans believe that "Judge Judy" is on the Supreme Court.

    In that same study one-third of Americans could not name even 3 judges who are actually on the Supreme court.

    26% of Americans believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth.

    20% of Americans believe in witches and witchcraft.

    5% of Americans believe that the Earth is flat.


    Do you think that any of those people ever go on a cruise?

  9. 19 hours ago, kevingastreich said:

    Common sense says that using hand sanitizer is better than using nothing at all.  It kills 99% of the germs that are already ON YOUR OWN hands. In this way, you help not giving the germs that are ALREADY on your hands, to others.

    You are correct.

    But Common Sense is not very common these days - especially on cruise ships. And you have just proved that.

    We are not so worried about all the germs that hand sanitizers can kill - but more worried about all the viruses that most of the sanitizers cannot kill.

    Colds, Flu,  and Norovirus are not caused by germs. They come from viruses.

    Too many cruisers lack the common sense to know the difference.


    A few of the very expensive hand sanitizers (HAL doesn't use these) can kill viruses - but only when there is a "dwell time" (the period when the sanitizer stays wet on your skin) of 5 minutes or longer. How many cruisers are smart enough to know this and follow it? You can figure that one out. You will not need a calculator.


    Does washing your hands properly and well kill viruses? No, not at all.

    But proper hand washing does remove the vast majority of those viruses and they go down the drain.


    Will contaminated hands cause you to get norovirus or give it to somebody else? No, not at all.

    It only occurs when somebody is naive or careless enough to put those contaminated hands in their eyes, mouth, or nose, or touch something that will go into their eyes, mouth or nose, or touch somebody else's eyes, mouth, or nose, or touch something that will go into somebody else's eyes, mouth, or nose. 


    The vast majority of people who suffer from Norwalk Virus do not catch it from somebody else. They are so naïve or careless that they give it to themselves.

  10. The CDC has done many studies on ships that offer hand sanitizers and those that do not.


    Ships with the sanitizers have higher outbreak numbers; when hand sanitizers are present, fewer people wash their hands - believing that the sanitizers are a substitute for washing. Sanitizers are not nearly as effective as washing - hence the higher infection numbers.


    USPH is now recommending that ships use the hand sanitizers only after an outbreak has started. At that point, pax get a bit scared into using their brains and washing PLUS sanitizing.

  11. If I had to even consider wearing protective equipment to prevent being infected by unclean people raised by wolves, I would immediately and seriously reconsider my vacation choices and options.

    What has happened to the people on this planet?

  12. 6 hours ago, Roberto256 said:


    Why not wear disposable 'examination' gloves as you go thorough the line, and discard them prior to eating?




    Why not take a cruise on a ship where you do not have to go in a line to eat something?

    Problem solved.

  13. It is easier than you think to avoid illness outbreaks on cruise ships.


    1. Avoid large mass market ships. Packing thousands of people into close quarters for days at a time is just begging for trouble. The big ships have confirmed NLV cases on an hourly basis on many days. It is unusual for a big ship to get through a single day with nobody reporting NLV symptoms.


    2. Splurge a bit and take a cruise in "Business Class". Small elegant ships are often much better values than the cheapie mass market cruises. Small ships rarely have any outbreaks of any kind. In the past 18 months, my ship (less than 300 pax) has had one case of suspected Norovirus with a crewmember, and zero cases of NLV with guests.

  14. I just completed my annual USPH refresher course in Miami, with all the USPH Inspectors and experts.

    We talked about many things - as we always do. Many of them new developments.


    We were reminded that two of the most unsanitary places around us are trousers pockets and ladies' purses.

    Then the inspector asked how many of us were carrying mobile telephones.

    Nearly everyone pulled a telephone out of a trouser pocket or purse.


    Then the inspector asked us how often we sanitized our telephones.

    Most of the attendees replied, "Never", or "Rarely".


    Then he asked how often we pushed our smartphones against our faces, loaned them to others to push them against their faces, or passed them around so everyone could hold the telephone and see a photo or video.

    Most in the room replied that they did this quite often.


    Then the inspectors gave a presentation, predicting that mobile telephones will soon be the #1 cause of Norovirus infection on land and at sea.


    An additional note on hand sanitizers. Most are barely effective against Viruses. For those few that do have some effect on viruses, one needs to be aware of something called "dwell time". This is the period of time that an anti-viral agent must remain in a liquid state in order to have any effect against viruses.

    The few - extremely expensive - hand sanitizers that do kill norovirus spores require a dwell time of around 5 minutes.


    If, like most people, you immediately shake or wipe your hands dry after applying a hand sanitizer, you have removed any chance that it will actually do something beneficial for you.

    The same theory applies to your mobile telephone. If you apply sanitizer, the telephone must remain wet for at least 5 minutes to get any positive effect at all.

  15. Who cares.

    Komodo island is one of the worst places to see the dragons.

    Neighboring islands outside the National Park - like Flores and Larantuka - have far more dragons, are far nicer places to visit, and have no "cover charge" at all.

  16. 1 hour ago, bouhunter said:

    This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on CC in a long time......

    I have been a F&B Director and Hotel Manager on 29 different cruise ships for 11 different cruise lines over the past 38 years.

    Ridiculous - yes.

    True - yes.


    There are many more stories that you probably will not believe:

    On one of the companies I worked, we announced free bloody marys and free pizza in every bar starting 30 minutes before dinner on "Lobster Night". Everyone stampeded into the bars to get the free drinks, each of which consisted of nearly a liter of tomato juice, a tiny hint of vodka, and lots of spices. Then we gave them a massive slice of pizza, with lots of toppings. After 2 of the "free bloody marys" and 2 huge slices of pizza, they moved to the dining room - so full of tomato juice and cheap pizza that they could not eat any lobster or steak. We saved millions in food cost over a year's time. Nobody ever caught on.

    Ridiculous - yes.

    True - Yes.

    Clever - very.


    Bear in mind that the mass market lines have very limited food cost budgets. Typically they budget between US$7 and US$9 per person per day for the 8 meals you choose to eat every day. With the predictable high consumption on the first 3 days of a 5 or 7 day cruise, they cannot stay within cost targets if the better food items are on those first 3 days' menus.


    If you take a longer mass market cruise - with the same high consumption during the first 3 days - they have more lower consumption days in the middle of the longer voyage to average out the higher initial costs.

  17. I have done about 60 California Coastal Cruises on a variety of ships.

    About half of them were quite calm; the other half quite choppy.


    With California's newish eco laws and higher priced ship fuel requirements, many cruise ships are sailing farther and farther off from the California Coast, where weather conditions are generally worse.


    Vancouver in mid-October can be quite cold. Weather at sea is generally colder and windier.

    Weather in San Francisco in mid-October can be quite chilly. Weather off the coast is generally colder and windier.

    You will probably be comfortable once you reach San Diego.

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