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Tomorrow by 4:00pm. Will cover through almost the end of July. My prediction.

How much clearance was there? I don’t think I ever saw it mentioned. It’ll have to go there if a cruise starts out from Honolulu. Thanks for the link to the video.

We like the WJ for dinner, more and more each cruise. We stopped liking the MDR as much as we used to like it around the time of the sideways dinner menus were rolled out.

It’s like this. If wearing a mask works to prevent the spread of Covid-19, why were businesses forced to close and people told to stay home? If they don’t work, why should we be forced to wear one?

Bacon. Yum! Time for a bacon salad.

Don’t forget to add all of the greenie celebrities who preach the need to conserve resources to fight global warming now called climate change since the math and statistics doesn’t support man made global warming. Before that wasn’t it going supposed get cooler back in the 70’s? Never mind the celebrities fly on their private jets to make such speeches.

Thanks time4u2go. There’s a seven day lag between the reported actual data and the reporting of the actual data whereas the estimated # is current to within a day. I think we’re better off to use the lower actual number and see how the estimated # from yesterday compares to the actual number as of yesterday when that gets reported next week on Fri.

Will it go through the Suez Canal to get there?

We plan on cruising in August and then again in October as long as wearing masks isn’t mandatory after embarkation. Yesterday, I found something interesting. It appears there is a vast difference between the CDC’s reported USA death numbers due to Covid-19 and its running estimate. The CDC’s weekly report lists the USA deaths from Covid-19 at 37,308 (updated May 1 based on National Vital Statistics data as of April 25). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm However, the CDC’s most recent USA Covid-19 estimated deaths was being reported at around 64,000 as recently as early Saturday. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html Until yesterday, I did not know the CDC was reporting two different numbers. So which is the more accurate USA death number? 37,308 reported or 64,000 estimated? The 64k number includes a Covid-19 probable case or death as defined by one of the following: Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19 Meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19 which means the CDC is including unconfirmed Covid-19 cases in its 64k estimate and it’s not likely to be accurate. This is in addition to the fact that Covid-19 has many of the same symptoms (see pic) as the flu. The fact regarding the similarity in symptoms makes it difficult (if not impossible) to accurately attribute a death to Covid-19 without a positive test result. The 37,308 number is based on actual National Vital Statistics data. Hopefully, things return to normal in small steps.

Which members of the crew are you referring too? The RCI crew members that I know (mostly sports staff, but a few others too) had the option to stay on the ship or debark. They chose to stay on the ship as they felt it was the safest place for them to be right now.

In the first linked article at the start of this thread, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/nyregion/coronavirus-jjbubbles-joe-joyce.html?algo=top_conversion&fellback=false&imp_id=990166187&imp_id=851791235&action=click&module=trending&pgtype=Article&region=Footer the reporter failed in reporting just the facts regarding the untimely death of Mr. Joyce. There’s something else going on. The reporter was sure to include the following in her article: “On March 1, Joe Joyce and his wife, Jane, set sail for Spain on a cruise, flying first to Florida. His adult children — Kevin, Eddie and Kristen Mider — suggested that the impending doom of the coronavirus made this a bad idea. Joe Joyce was 74, a nonsmoker, healthy; four years after he opened his bar he stopped drinking completely. He didn’t see the problem. “He watched Fox, and believed it was under control,’’ Kristen told me.” This leaves the reader with impression that because of Fox [News], he was ill informed. The article goes on to give Fox News credit for eventually reversing course on its reporting on Covid-19, but was sure to include “the Joyce’s were long gone by then.” Well. Take a look at the since deleted Tweet (in the photo) by the same reporter on February 27. She also was downplaying Covid-19 right before the Joyce’s left for their cruise. Hmmm. RIP Mr. Joyce.

We won’t even use that paper in the cat’s litter box. The Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos. He’s made billions during the Covid-19 shutdown. Can’t knock him for being a successful business person I guess. It’s too bad he’s doesn’t do more to find a solution to the current situation. Since he’s made billions during the Covid-19 shutdown, perhaps he prefers for it to continue so he can make another 25 bil. We’ll cruise again someday, hopefully in 2020.

I notice nowhere in the article are the numbers they used actually refuted with better examples. They were accused of using numbers not representative of the general population. It’s an attack on their position for speaking out. They used the best numbers available to them and provided several examples. They extrapolated, as the whole population hasn’t been tested. One of the examples they gave was for NY state. They actually did not extrapolate on that example to determine the number of positive cases. They used actual numbers. 256,272 Covid-19 cases (39% of those who were tested for Covid-19). And with 19,410 Covid-19 deaths (at the time of their video) out of a state population of 19,000,000 which is a chance of dying of 0.1% if you live in NY.