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  1. Because it's the announced guidelines. And if they put you on a list of exclusions, tell me again about not letting "your shorts get into a wad". It's easy to say if it's no concern.
  2. The new "guidelines" don't even mention this being related to covid19! It's just a blanket declaration as far as I can see. If it was about Covid19, what would people with chronic conditions have to do with this? It's all stupid!
  3. Yes! Especially since it's not clear if they will actually refund you or give you a useless FCC (since you'd be forever "unfit" under new rules.). I wouldn't invest in a cruise until the lines make it clear 100% on whether you can get a refund and not a useless FCC!
  4. Good point. But biologics (except some rare ones in pill form) are infused (IV drip) at a doctor's office... so even less of a problem. They aren't seen at all by cruise lines. These drugs are infused every few weeks or months (mine is every 8 weeks) at a doctor's office or infusion center (often in the doctor's office). I went through all sorts of hoops (with my doc's guidance) to make sure my (now canceled) cruise wouldn't fall within the cruise dates this year. Sigh. There was a time that I had to take bottles of liquid meds, and bottles of pills on airplanes and cruises... up till 2018, actually... and that was a hassle only for me. Occasionally TSA would look over the drugs and shrug it off. No problem. Entyvio ended all that for me. But it looks like you are being required to declare your personal health issues pre-boarding in far more detail? They go so far as to say (in articles I've read) that if a discovery that you haven't been forthcoming in all of your medical details arises, that you'll be put off at the first port! So, does this mean they will have some access to your medical records??? I'm wondering if that means some sort of requirement that you turn over your HIPAA rights to them?!? Now that would be ugly if true! If cruises do that, it's going to be the end for them. As has been said, it's early in all this, and things might (SHOULD!) change. If this is just a temporary thing to ease people back into cruising (and it's still illogical), then they should explain that up front rather than present it as the new normal.
  5. See, this is what I'm talking about... how could we be just fine as cruisers last month, but suddenly we're cruise line outcasts? I've been cruising since 1994, and as I said in the original post, I've had UC since 1984. I'm healthier (Thank God and modern medicine) then I've ever been before. And now, I might be blocked from cruising? Where is the logic in these "guidelines"? My disease and treatment never has and never would render any sort of hardship for the cruise line or other passengers (unless there was a pressing need for them to use my cabin's bathroom while I'm using it :) ). And what in the world could this have to do with Covid19 and the problems it has caused? My UC would never strand a cruise ship at sea. It's stupid... I'm 59, so it's not my ax to grind... but how is being 70 or over a sudden burden? My uncle is in his 90s and he only stopped running marathons a few years ago! I'm surprised that this "gotta get a doctor's note" hasn't caused a major outcry yet. I think that the cruise lines are following CDC/CLIA guidelines, here? So who do we actually file a complaint with on this issue? I agree this all might collapse on review and that everything is in flux right now... but it's often best to voice protests early rather than sit back and watch the chips fall where they may. (gmjc2- hang in there with the Entyvio... don't know how long you've been on it, but I think in some people it takes several months to begin to work. It's been so great for me that it's the only drug I'm on... I used to have to drag a carry-on full of meds around with me everywhere! Stay healthy!)
  6. I was first diagnosed with UC in 1983 at the age of 22! I'm 59 now. I was on some AWFUL drugs over the years. In 2015, my doc put me on my first biologic, Simponi. That worked well for a few years then stopped working. Now I'm on Entyvio which is working fantastically. God bless your son... he's too young to have all that thrown at him. But tell him about me. I'm still fighting! 🙂
  7. Because I have ulcerative colitis (since 1983), I am currently on Entyvio, a drug known as a biologic. Entyvio acts (as do all biologics) by lowering the immune system (an overactive or malfunctioning immune system is thought to be the cause of ulcerative colitis). Since being on Entyvio, my UC is completely under control... I live a pretty normal life. During the pandemic, my doctor has advised me to self quarantine just as a precaution. I didn't need to worry about this as on the same day he told me this, my state shut down. I might be forced to go back to work once my state reopens (hopefully not any time soon). The rules here are a bit fuzzy. But if I have to I have to, and I'll just take the steps necessary to be as safe as possible since I work with the public. New cruise travel guidelines (as reported on Cruise Critic's Cruise News on 4/24/20) seem to indicate that those with impacted immune systems will be denied boarding any (?) cruise vessels (along with people over 70 who don't have a doctor's note saying they are healthy enough to travel). Here's an excerpt from the Cruise News article with Carnival's wording (and Royal Caribbean seemed to have the same or similar wording): Carnival will deny boarding to all guests 70 years of age or older unless they have a letter from their physician confirming they are fit to sail. Additionally, all guests will be asked if they have been hospitalized in the past two months for or if they have a history of chronic or severe medical conditions. The CDC defines chronic conditions as an illness persisting for a long time or constantly recurring, such as diabetes, heart, kidney or lung disease. Additional severe medical conditions include: suppressed immunity (active cancer, taking steroids) or if the person requires oxygen for any reason. Guests with chronic or severe medical conditions will not be allowed to sail. Since Carnival is Princess' parent company, my guess is that Princess will follow these guidelines as well? So, if I'm reading this correctly, I'm no longer allowed to cruise? Forever? I've been on biologics since 2015 and have cruised frequently (six cruises since, actually) without any issues whatsoever. Why would anything be different now? Further, if you are blocked for using biologic drugs, this means many many people will no longer be allowed on ships! Those using Humira for arthritis for instance. I think these CDC guidelines are a little too broad. I know that this is all in response to Covid19, but there isn't any language here to show that once the pandemic has fallen off that people with say, diabetes, can resume cruising again. Further, what if someone had Covid19, but is still somebody who has fallen into the new restricted travel guidelines? Do they get to cruise? Or are you forever a travel pariah? I also think that the "70 years of age or older" needing a doctor's note screams of discrimination. I'm sure there are attorneys out there getting ready to file massive lawsuits against any cruise agency that demands a doctor's note for cruise travel because you're 70 or older ("Paging AARP!"). I'm not nearly 70, but I find this offensive in the extreme. I absolutely agree that passengers with transmittable infectious diseases (noro or corona viruses) should be kept off ships, but keeping people off ships with chronic conditions that are not contagious in any way is ridiculous! Another caveat: cruise lines will not allow you a refund if you are deemed unfit to travel under the guidelines above. Instead it's a future cruise credit. How nice... you can't cruise any more... and here's your FCC that you can never use. Have a nice day. (Some might offer a full refund... but watch the wording.) Seriously, I hope the cruise lines work with the CDC to figure this all out... otherwise it's going to be much uglier for my beloved cruise industry.
  8. I talked to Princess last week about my online refund (still haven't seen it) option that I did the very day they announced they were cancelling cruises way back in March. I was told that it can take 60 days (others say even more now) to process. She checked and they still have all my cancelled cruise info (it disappeared from my online page). I took option 2, and I told her that we paid our cruise/air on one credit card, and everything else on another credit card. She assured me that how you paid for each is exactly how you will get your refund. (I can see how this alone would be a logistical nightmare) If you paid by gift cards, I'm not sure how that would work. Best advice is to call. When I called, the phone was picked up almost immediately, and the woman at Princess was a pleasure to speak with.
  9. Oh wait... I'd have to deduct the airfare, too. I get the air back in the refund but not as part of the FCC. That's fair.
  10. Interesting! I'd have to look again at my docs and see what the actual breakdown was. I know my cruise plus air (booked with Princess' EZAir) was $4800... but I'm sure part of that was taxes, port fees, etc. Still, it should be a lot of money. Thanks!
  11. This is an interesting topic. We were supposed to be on one of the cruises cancelled. We took Option 2 which gives us (once we get it) 100% refund of payments plus a 25% FCC (future cruise credit). It was my expectation that the 25% FCC would basically be like a 25% OFF coupon (I work in retail sales) works. My sister (her and her husband were booked for the same cruise) insists that this is incorrect and that the 25% FCC is valued at 25% of your canceled cruise's cost. Who is right here? For instance, in my scenario, I book a new cruise and the total cost is $1000. I apply the FCC and it takes 25% off or $250 off. So my cruise is then $750. In my sister's scenario, our cancelled cruise was $4000. So our 25% FCC is worth $1000 which is applicable to a future cruise. If this is the case, my "$1000" cruise in the scenario above is free (except for taxes, port, etc)? I hope I've explained it correctly here.
  12. I think most companies really are trying to work with their customers during this pandemic. Good luck!
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