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  1. On 11/25/2020 at 5:17 AM, iancal said:

    Does anyone really think that countries like Australia or New Zealand are going to let boatloads of North Americans enter their country with no proof of covid vaccination?   My guess is that it will be a basic requirement just like a passport.  At least for a few years.  I doubt that anyone will take your word that you have had covid in the past and are thus protected.


    And...if you do not wan to get the vaccine then select a vacation that does not require this certification.

    International travellers on Qantas will be required to have Vaccine.  

  2. I'm in Victoria Australia.  population 6 million.  We have just had our 20th consecutive day with zero new cases and zero deaths.  We have been through a very strict Stage 4 Lockdown which has thankfully worked.  We have just been allowed to rejoin the rest of Australia except Queensland who have their state locked down tight and are not accepting visitors drom many other states.  Just yesterday South Australia, our neighbouring state went into an even stricter lockdown as they have had a surge of cases starting with international hotel quarantine.  Only for 6 days though.  They are not even allowed our for exercise.  Only one member of the household is allowed out to buy essentials once a day.  The only shops open are food and pharmacy.  

  3. 2 hours ago, iancal said:

    I can well understand why the EU has banned visitors from the US.  The writing was on the wall three weeks ago when the numbers started to spike.


    Canadians should be concerned as well now that some areas have lifted closures.  We are not immune to stupidity.


     Yesterday DW regaled me with some of the ridiculous covid conspiracy theories that she has read from some of her facebook  contacts.  I did not believe her at first, I though she was kidding.  Then I realized that she was dead serious.  I am still shaking my head.  They  went from there is no covid through to someone putting chips in vaccines to follow (?) people and a few more in between.   Very, very strange IMHO.

    In Victoria, Australia we now have ten suburbs identified by postcode (zipcode) that are currently in lockdown as the state is currently having up to 70 new cases a day.  This has been caused mostly by returning Aussies who have been living overseas.  They are required to isolate for 14 days in hotels (at the gov't expense).  Our lax state gov't allowed private security firms to guard the hotel guests.  These guards, spoke no english, (probably spoke the language of the returning travellers),  Didn't understand about PPE, took the hotel guests shopping, slept with some of them etc.  We now have a judicial enquiry into what happened.  

    Testing has increased all over Melbourne, the authorities are going house to house testing everyone in the locked down suburbs.  Over 10,000 people have refused to be tested.  The reason given for most of the refusals is that Covid19 is a conspiracy and not real. They can tell from genome sequencing that we have a super-spreader somewhere who is going from suburb to suburb.  We do hope they find this person soon. 

    In the meantime Victorians are not really welcome In any other state and airports, train stations and roadblocks have been set up to check the postcodes of all interstate arrivals.  They have found two (with Covid) trying to enter other states.  One thought she had it, went and had  a test,  then got on a train to travel interstate prior to getting results.  Unbelievable.  

  4. 1 hour ago, fatcat04 said:

    @StrathedenI can't speak out of direct knowledge about Massachusetts as I don't live there but here are some numbers. Their average age of Covid fatality is 81 and 98% of those that died had underlying health conditions. Of the 7963 deaths, 5023 (63%) were in nursing homes or long term care facilities. You will find those kinds of nursing home percentages in a few hard hit places and some even less densely populated places outside the Northeast. Nursing home deaths have been a huge issue in many places. I think they are now saying 25% of US deaths have been patients in long term care facilities and nursing homes. Really make me want to keep my very senior but active and feisty momma home as long as humanly possible.


    My own home state of Tennessee as of today..

    Population:  approx 7 million

    Tests: 727,268

    Positives: 44,202

    Recovered: 25,280

    Deaths: 567

    Nursing Home deaths: 142 (25%)


    Numbers for counties with 500,000+ population:

    Co names and city/Cases/Positive tests/Negative tests/Recovered/Deaths

    Shelby (Memphis)      8,643,  10,383,  113,047,  5,900,  175

    Davidson (Nashville)   8,258,  9,767,  64,945 ,  5,597, 103


    Death rate is presently at 1.3% of positives and .0081% of the general population of the state.


    In my county Davidson, the average age of those who have died is 72, with an age range of 41-101, most with underlying health conditions.


    Our local health department and our state give daily press conferences and send out all the new stats every single day. I have been tracking them for months. Our local health department releases heat maps that keep track of hot spots in our county and they have a very good contact tracing program.


    We are having a surge here in certain parts of town. I am not surprised as things have been slowly opening up and we had anticipated a surge in cases. Most cases have been in the 20-40 age groups. We did have 10k plus folks march in protest in Nashville a couple weeks back and several days of protests that had at least 1000 participants so.. yeah maybe that might have also contributed to it to some degree. The mayor encouraged everyone who attended a protest to go get tested as testing is free and open to anyone. He attended one and he got tested.



    I am sure that our state would have just as many aged care facilities as MA.  My SIL is in aged care.  They were all locked down and no one was allowed visitors. They have had no cases at all.   A couple of aged care places in another state became a hot spot - lack of covid hygene processes.  I believe about 19 residents died.   We have a similar situation in Australia.whereby our State Premiers are responsible for each state so we do have different regulations state by state.  They have regular what is called National Cabinet Meetings where the National and State officials discuss the situation.

    Some states, Western Australia and Queensland have their borders closed and no one from any other state is allowed in except by special compensation.  They require 2 weeks  Isolation in a hotel before you can enter.  

  5. I don't know what the overall plan for the way Covid was handled in the US but I am just doing a comparison between two areas with a similar population.  


    I live in a state in Australia with a population of 6.3million.  We have had 1917 cases overall, with 20 deaths.  


    We have just had some of our privileges taken back as we have had a spike in cases this past week.  We have had cases in the double figures.  A lot of the cases are from returning Australians who are in 2 weeks isolation in hotels.  They are from 3rd world countries.  There are also a few suburbs who have been asked to please stay home as they seem to be gathering in large family groups and ignoring the rules). We cannot have more than 5 visitors in our home at any one time.  (Our grand daughter's 13th birthday party on Sunday is being held in shifts of 5 people at a time.  My DIL will be serving lunch 3 or 4 times on Sunday)


    I just checked with Massachusetts figures.  Similar population 6.7 million. Total confirmed cases 102,922.  Total deaths. 7776.   They have had more deaths today than we have had in total.


    What is going on in the US that is so different from other first world countries. 


  6. On 3/23/2020 at 5:22 AM, MMDown Under said:

    Australia is a federation of States, with a Federal Government.  The WA Premier announced that all WC passengers on ships redeployed to Australia must transfer direct to the airport or stay on the ship until they had flights home.  This was for public safety in WA (his responsibility).  This was a wise decision because Australia has a number of infected people, off cruise ships, who were allowed to disembark in Sydney.  One infected couple off Ruby Princess is from NT.  NT has closed its borders to try to protect their high population of vulnerable aboriginals.  Another infected person off the Ruby Princess, returned to Tasmania, also locked down to protect their small population.  These are just a couple of examples to demonstrate the high price Australia is paying for allowing cruise ships to visit Australia to disembark passengers, after cruise ships were banned from visiting Australia.

    The Federal Government (? border force) over ruled the WA Government.  

    The Amsterdam had been in Australian waters for over 14 days prior to docking in Freemantle. 

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  8. 6 hours ago, MamaFej said:

    I’m glad for you, Kathi! 

    I heard from my aunt (in-law). She and Uncle J have a hotel for two nights in Perth, then a flight to Honolulu. She did not mention if they had a flight to the Big Island. 

    Here’s hoping that you, they, and everyone else get home safely. 

    I doubt they will be in a hotel.  I believe it will be ship to airport.  Nobody can stay anywhere else but the ship.  This was announced today by the Premier of Western Australia.


  9. For some reason ”taking responsibility for your own actions" has become a thing of the past.  It seems that some people always look for someone to blame for their own stupidity.


    We stopped cruising about 14 months ago when my husband became ill on our last cruise.  We organised to self disembark at the half way point in a back to back and changed our flight accordingly.  It was not HAL's fault - they couldn't have been nicer though.  We were credited back some of our internet payment, laundry, and spa payments that we had paid in advance.  They didn't have to but they did.


    i know it is different this time with flights being difficult but if you read all the blogs and postings, it appears to be not that difficult if you keep calm and just work thru it. 


  10. 11 hours ago, The-Inside-Cabin said:

    Not sure, but probably ride the ship back.  May get quarantined on arrival.   I heard ship is going to FLL via Cape Town.    

    They said - don't go to medical.  They can't help with waivers.  Exact  waiver process  unknown to me.  


    Obviously you have to already have the waiver from your own Doctor.  The onboard medical doesn't know your history.   I guess there will be many who will try to get a waiver as they don't want a long flight.  We are used to long flights.  We either fly long distances or see nothing or go nowhere. . 

  11. As a result of the coronavirus epidemic I have been thinking back to the cruises that we have taken.  We always leave the ship with a URT except on one occasion.  I have just realised (I know I'm a bit slow on the uptake) that maybe the reason we didn't get it on that particular cruise was because it was the first cruise after dry dock and the ship had had no passengers for the previous week and maybe the a/c filters had been changed.  

  12. 7 minutes ago, dreamers25 said:

    I wonder if the government in Thailand will let people with direct flights out the country, be transferred directly from the ship to the air port. 


    They could put on busses and take them directly to the airport when they prove that they have the flights booked out of the country. The ship could stay in port releasing passengers shortly before their flights. 


    This may be something they are considering. There would be then no risk to the Thai people, or at least no more than normal flights in and out of the country. 

    Seriously.  What about the other people on board the aircraft?


  13. 9 hours ago, skurvish said:

    Might it have something to do with Gratuities? In Australia gratuities are not the norm and I understand that some Australians have automatic gratuities removed upon boarding. Have the cruise lines simply added the gratuities to the cruise fare for Australian purchasers and then don't add them to the on board account?

    No we still pay gratuities along with everyone else. 

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