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  1. Have done Princess Sanctuary once before. Can you tell me about the experience on HAL and current prices if known. We will be on the 9 night cruise departing January 4th. Thanks in advance.
  2. We will be sailing on the Koningsdam for the first time next month. I always enjoy finding a quiet place to lay out in the sun on the highest deck on the ship. On deck 12 the Observation deck there is the "Retreat" off of the "Crows Nest". I know there's a charge for the "Retreat" but is there another area on that deck with regular places to lay out? thx
  3. In his 12/4 post, Captain Albert showed the Notes area of Nieuw Statendam being a whisky tasting venue. (Deck 2 between Billboard Onboard and Rolling Stone Rock Room) Today Vict0riann showed the Notes whisky tasting in When & Where. (post #275 on page 7) Could someone on a K-dam post-drydock cruise report if this was added? The space is identical on both ships. This would appeal to DH. TIA.
  4. The Koningsdam LIVE thread has officially begun so that can only mean one thing. I AM ON VACATION!!! Today was my last day at work and I am doing my best to shed workaday concerns and flip the switch to holiday mode. This report is brought to you by the sisters’ Annual Christmas Kickoff; also known as ACK. Miss J, my sister, rests in peaceful slumber at her airport hotel in preparation for an early morning flight to North America where we will begin our journey. If Miss J chimes in with anything other than a Pirate Report you are not to believe her. (I think you know what I’m talking about.) And now it is time for the Pledge of Allegiance. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me: I, *say your name* Promise not to believe Anything Miss G’s sister says. Arr! Okay, I think I’ve got all my bases covered. Let’s get started.
  5. I'm checking the Porteverglades webcam. The Koningsdam just left, isn't it a bit early?
  6. Nieuw Amsterdam will be at Pier 21 (Starboard to) from 0545-1700. She is doing a 7-day Western Caribbean itinerary. Sunday, December 2 Fort Lauderdale, FL Monday, December 3 Half Moon Cay, Bahamas Tuesday, December 4 At Sea Wednesday, December 5 Ocho Rios, Jamaica Thursday, December 6 Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands Friday, December 7 Cozumel, Mexico Saturday, December 8 At Sea Sunday, December 9 Fort Lauderdale, FL Koningsdam will be headed to Freeport for dry dock. She will be at Pier 26 (port to) from 0530-1300 (although ships leaving for dry dock seldom leave on time). It is another busy day in Port Everglades with five ships joining the HAL ones. Adventure OTS will be at pier 29 from 0430-1730, Carnival Conquest at pier 4 from 0615-1600, Crystal Symphony at pier 19 (nice view for Roy) from 0515-1800, Harmony OTS at pier 18 from 0445-1630, and Regal Princess at pier 2 from 0500-1600. The PTZtv webcams can be found at https://www.portevergladeswebcam.com/ and https://www.ftlauderdalewebcam.com/. Rotterdam will be leaving Tampa for a 14-day Southern Caribbean cruise. She will be in port from 0700-1700. Sunday, December 2 Tampa, FL Monday, December 3 Key West, FL Tuesday, December 4 At Sea Wednesday, December 5 At Sea Thursday, December 6 San Juan, Puerto Rico Friday, December 7 St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands Saturday, December 8 Antigua Sunday, December 9 St. Lucia Monday, December 10 At Sea Tuesday, December 11 Curacao Wednesday, December 12 Aruba Thursday, December 13 At Sea Friday, December 14 Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands Saturday, December 15 At Sea Sunday, December 16 Tampa, FL Carnival Miracle will also be in port. The PTZtv webcam can be found at https://www.porttampawebcam.com/ . Oosterdam will be in Key West from 0800-1600 (https://www.keywestharborwebcam.com/). For the addicts: On Monday 3 December Rotterdam will be in Key West from 1100-1800 (https://www.keywestharborwebcam.com/ ) and Volendam will depart San Diego at 1700 (http://sundiegolive.com/). Next up: Zuiderdam on Wednesday 5 December.
  7. I know I have seen mentions and photos of these balances here, but can not find them in a search. Do people find the larger balcony makes up for the solid railing?
  8. Cruising on the Koningsdam was a treat. We had a verandah stateroom, so I don't know if this is true for all staterooms, but we were very pleased with the larger shower AND its glass door. No more plastic curtain hugging your legs!! The rainshower head was a welcomed plus, too. Our room had excellent black out curtains, and I wish all cruise lines would follow HAL's lead in providing a paper recycle bin for myriad notices every room receives and, likely, immediately tosses. Embarkation and debarkation went smoothly. If you elect to walk off with your luggage and are in a hurry, don't wait in your stateroom. Wait in the Lincoln Center. When we left our room when we were called at 7:30, the line was already very long. On the positive side, it moved quickly. We used Lyft to return to the FLL airport. ENTERTAINMENT: We have been on over 20 cruises, and this ship's entertainment was the best we have ever experienced. Normally, we are ho-hum about any singer/dancer show, but these were absolutely not-to-be-missed. I believe the shows we saw will no longer be performed after Koningsdam returns from drydock next week, but I am confident equally impressive shows will be performed. It is clear more money is being spent on quality productions. The dancers were especially impressive. We usually went to the shows early for a good seat, especially if only two were offered (sometimes there were 3), since the theater is small. The theater-in-the-round experience is wonderful, and there aren't many bad seats. Be aware the bottom rows are not graduated. HAL partners with BBC, so don't miss anything having to do with Planet Earth. The BB King All-Stars is another not-to-be-missed opportunity. We occasionally had to go early just to get a seat; they have 3 sets an evening. If you want to hear great music (not just jazz), dance, and/or just enjoy watching others dance, this is your venue. The BB King musicians are simply excellent as are the classical quartet members performing in the Lincoln Center. The more contemporary solo pianist stuck over by the Culinary Arts Center is also very good but, sadly, doesn't get the visibility of the other venues. DINING: We were not impressed with Any Time Dining. The first night of our 10-night cruise was a disaster with long wait times to be seated and to be served. We tried making reservations a few other nights but were told we could only do so for 5:45 and 8:15. Had we wanted those times, we would have chosen Set Dining! Even when we did secure a reservation, service was slow. But more germaine is the menus were uninspiring, quite a departure from our normal HAL experience. Thus, our group of four frequently had dinner in the Lido, which serves almost everything on the main dining menu anyway, or at the NY Deli. We did not eat at any restaurant which charges extra, but I was tempted by the $15 Culinary Arts offering of small and large plates. The menu looked delicious. Quite impressive - and FREE - are the NY Deli and Dive-In. You will not believe how amazing the Dive-In's fries are!! Wow. The menu is a far cry from the normal burgers, limp veggie burger, hot dogs, and perhaps a grilled chicken breast on other cruise lines. Hamburgers are dressed up with Gouda cheese or thick bacon, the portabella mushroom topped with guacomole is fantastic, and the grilled chicken also comes topped with guacamole. Yes, wait times could be long, but the buzzer system works well. It's easy to go into the Lido for a salad and drink and still feel/hear the buzzer. The same good buzzer range works for the NY Deli, also a very popular venue (be prepared for 20-minute waits)...once people find out about it! It's a floor above, overlooking the pool, and was almost deserted in the mornings, making a quiet breakfast spot with food from the Lido. The made-to-order pizza is very good, and quite nice toppings are offered. Others in our party raved about the pastrami and Reuben sandwiches. After 8pm, grab a chocolate pretzel! Salads are available, and one does not have to wait for those. In the afternoon and early evening, Mediterranean tapas are available where the dueling pianos perform. They are quite delicious and make a great appetizer plate with friends and wine on your balcony :-). One complaint is that the coffee bar (Explorations Cafe) is stuck up front on the 12th floor in the Crow's Nest. It used to be part of HAL’s famously-wonderful libraries. If you’re expecting a library on this ship, you’ll be disappointed; it is little more than a corner. And if you want a brewed coffee or latte at 6am, forget it; you will have to wait until 8am, which is so late for a coffee bar. I'd like to see the coffee bar situated more centrally, open earlier, and please offer a coffee card to encourage more use (and offer a little savings). These seem to be hugely popular on other ships; Princess comes particularly to mind. The food at the Explorations Cafe is good and complimentary whether you buy a coffee or not. The same is true at the Dutch cafe. If they offer lattes before 8, it's not well-advertised, but this cafe is much more centrally located. I enjoyed the split pea soup and the tiny Dutch pancakes. Most of their food is also complimentary. Service, however, is slow; while the showcase has food, items are not taken from there; you must wait for their kitchen to prepare it. ART: The art gallery is much smaller here, which we did not mind, and so far as I know, no art auctions were held, again not a loss as far as we are concerned. PORTS OF CALL: We enjoyed a lazy day on Half Moon Cay. Take insect repellent if you're prone to bites. Within half an hour, I had several, which swelled and itched for days. It was much too hot (Nov. 12) to rent a kayak or try to find the walking trail. Walking was tolerable if we did so along the shoreline, with feet in the water, and getting a sea breeze. Lounge chairs were fairly easy to find, even in the shade. Just be prepared to walk a distance, which gets you away from crowds anyway. The kids' water area is excellent. The buffet was delicious. While we've been on cruise line private islands that do have wifi, this one does not. GRAND TURK: Take that insect repellent here, too, and free wifi is available in the port shops, specifically around Froots. Our group of four rented a golf cart and saw a few sites before trying some snorkeling from the shore (on a previous trip, we had taken a snorkeling excursion, which I would highly recommend). Where we chose to go was extremely choppy, as the winds were high and rain had started, so we aborted those plans. AMBER COVE: If you want to do nothing more than swim and sun, the free resort-style pool and lazy river is wonderful. Chairs are free; other water sports come with a fee. We took a taxi from the terminal to Telerifico, for the cable car. Prices are posted, $30/1-5 people/one way, but some bartering comes into play with the man in charge. For $50 r/t, our driver waited for us and then drove us around Puerto Playa (the square, the fort, the beach). While we chose not to get out, he was willing to let us out to walk and/or shop. We gave him a tip. We're in our late 60s and while we are fit and agile, the waterfalls sounded too much on the wild side for us. We were very glad we went to the cable car; it's important to GO EARLY. Clouds come in, and then it will be almost pointless; you want to see the panoramic views. The cable car costs $10/pp, and while you can walk around at the top for free (you could easily spend an hour or more walking the trails through the botanical garden), you will likely be approached by a licensed guide to go up with you. I imagine you could barter, but his price of $15 was fine with us, and we were glad he came with us. He was very knowledgeable. BONAIRE: We rented two golf carts for our group of 4 and had such a good time! Where we rented sent YouTube videos, so I knew ahead of time about the south and north loops. We received excellent instruction, clear maps, and off we went. We snorkeled at a couple of places (1,000 Steps was great) and had lunch at Sorobon Beach & Wellness Club (a little pricey). After several hours seeing both routes, we cleaned up on the ship and then enjoyed the market in Wilhelmina Plaza. Check out the stall selling all manner of salts. It was still open at 4pm, and our ship left at 6pm. CURACAO: This was our favorite port stop. Willemstad is delightful (download an architectural walking tour; that was very enjoyable and informative; see the floating market), and snorkeling from the beach can be very good. We took a privately-booked small tour (but a rental car is easy to get as well, and you can see all these same places and stay as long/short as you wish) which stopped at Shete Boka (fantastic), Fisherman's Wharf (snorkel with turtles here), a stop to cliff dive (or watch others), Puerto Mari (very good snorkeling: washed out coral but abundant fish), and flamingos. Since our ship stayed until 11pm, we went out after dark to enjoy the colorful waterfront, lit-up bridge, and to wander the streets on both sides. ARUBA: Having taken an off-road 4x4 Jeep tour before (and been bone-jostled), we opted for a privately-booked small tour. For 4 hours, we saw some of that same rugged and gorgeous coastline and plenty else Aruba has to offer. Of course, if you want a white sand beach day, take the local bus to Palm Beach. If you have any questions, post them below, and I’ll answer. Or you can email me at djkiser at gmail dot com.
  9. Has anyone had 4 people 2 adults and 2 kids in a Vista Suite? I would do Signature or Neptune but that is not available for 4 guest at this time. Hoping things will change.
  10. Koningsdam will be at Pier 21 (port to) from 0600-1600. She is doing an 11-day Southern Caribbean Seafarer cruise. Wednesday, November 21 Fort Lauderdale, FL Thursday, November 22 At Sea Friday, November 23 At Sea Saturday, November 24 St. Maarten Sunday, November 25 Fort-de-France, Martinique Monday, November 26 St. Lucia Tuesday, November 27 Barbados Wednesday, November 28 Roseau, Dominica Thursday, November 29 St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands Friday, November 30 At Sea Saturday, December 1 Half Moon Cay, Bahamas Sunday, December 2 Fort Lauderdale, FL Also in port are Crystal Serenity at pier 19 from 0500-1800 and the new Celebrity Edge will be departing from pier 25 (where she has been since Monday) at 1600. The PTZtv webcams can be found at https://www.portevergladeswebcam.com/ and https://www.ftlauderdalewebcam.com/ . Next up: Oosterdam on Saturday, November 24.
  11. For those of you that have been on Koningsdam specifically, can the Quench Beverage Package be used at the Grand Dutch Cafe for coffee? The only information I have found online refers to the Explorations Cafe, which I assume is referenced simply because this is a fleetwide location whereas Koningsdam additionally has the Grand Dutch Cafe. Many thanks
  12. Cruising on the Koningsdam this coming week. Very excited but have a couple questions. Does anyone know current internet options - has ship been upgraded to three tier ? Also, need advice on what is best way to watch or "stream" a college football game (rivalry week)? Thank you in advance for you help and advice.
  13. In September HAL announced they are adding the Rock Room to the Koningsdam in December but the HAL website doesn't list it as a venue on that ship Only mentions it is on New Statendam Anyone know what's up with that??
  14. I cruised Koningsdam for 24 days from 10/18/2018 to 11/11/2018. She is about 2 years old and appears to be in very good physical condition and is well maintained. That said, Koningsdam is a mixed bag of good, bad and ugly...in this writer's experienced opinion. THE GOOD By all appearances, the ship is being kept very clean. Wear and tear has not yet begun to show too much. Not much rust in sight. The theater (World Stage) is the best in the HAL fleet, and maybe in most fleets. Sight lines are excellent and there is hardly a bad seat in the house. Seating capacity is relatively generous and can fit about a third of the passengers at any one time (close to 800). That said, there were many occasions when the theater was totally filled and people were standing and/or sitting in the aisles (safety hazard?). The hi-tech stage uses a 270 degree computer controlled LCD screen as the backdrop and is the main apparatus of the otherwise sparse set decoration. Lincoln Center Stage is an outstanding plus for HAL. Koningsdam's venue for the very talented quintet is larger than other ships in the fleet and offers comfortable seating. Public seating is excellent and comfortable throughout the ship. The staterooms are a bit smaller on than most of HALs ships, but they are reasonable equipped. Electric and USB plugs are abundant and storage/closet space is good. THE BAD While Koningsdam is new and bright, HAL has done nothing to change the nickel-and-dime operation and product they offer. EVERYTHING they do is designed to get passengers to spend more money. Most of the daily on-board programs offered are for revenue and income production. Venues throughout the ship are too small for the large number of passengers, often filling an hour or more prior to a presentation. The Culinary Arts Center is the showcase venue for America's Test Kitchen, and it is very ill-suited for the purpose...very poor seating and sight angles. They also utilize this room for extra-cost dinning in the evening (much more suitable). The Mariners Program on Koningsdam appears to be treated more as necessary nuisance than as the customer building program it was originally designed to be. There does not appear to be a suitable venue on Koningsdam for a Mariners Reception, so only medallion recipients are invited, no matter how many medallions one has or how many cruise days you've logged. The multi-Star Mariners cocktail party is held in part of the Lido Pool area, while other people are in hot tubs on the other side. It's very clear that HAL management wants to change the demographic of its customers. They are looking for new, free spending blood. Staterooms are noisier than one would expect for a "new" ship. Even in slight seas there is creaking, rattling and banging...especially at night when you are trying to sleep. Fit and finish is not all that it could be. As an example, stateroom have a recessed "frame" for the wall mounted large screen TV. In my stateroom the TV was mounted well out of the center of the frame and lop-sided (one side higher than the other). The Main Dining Room is very noisy, especially on the lower deck (Deck2). There is little or no sound-absorbing material to soak up noise. There is no replay of the excursion or enrichment talks available on Koningsdam's closed circuit TV system or on stateroom TVs. You can, however, book extra cost dining, spa and excursion options via the interactive TV system. What little "art" there is on the ship is far removed from traditional seafaring art. All is very contemporary and the artwork appears to be photo-shopped pictures. There is NO art in stateroom passageways. Passage fore and aft on public decks 2 and 3 is restricted to one side of the ship, ensuring exposure to every selling station onboard. Traffic flow is poor, especially outside elevator locations where they have planted large modern sculptures (?), creating bottlenecks. The Promenade Deck is quite narrow and there are no deck chairs thereupon. The walking gets very bottlenecked at the stern end of the ship, so if one is walking behind slow walkers or encountering walkers who insist on walking upstream, it slows everyone down. Not important enough to write Congress about...just a mention. THE UGLY Whoever designed the toilets in the staterooms should be fired immediately. One cannot sit "on the throne" straightaway. You have to sit sideways because the glass shower enclosure is in the way, and you can't get your knees to squeeze in...unless you're 2 or 3 years old. Very awkward and uncomfortable. DINING This is a very subjective area and not all tastes are alike. So offering comments about the food and service aboard the Koningsdam is treading on very dangerous ground. That said, HAL has put together a fine group of chefs in what they call the Chef's Counsel, to help Chef Rudy design a dining program for the ship's various venues. They have created offerings that, in their test kitchen, appeal to all the senses. Great food requires great ingredients skillfully assembled by craftsmen who love their work. Unfortunately, the Chef's Counsel is not on board to supervise the final product. HALs logistics program is complex and mainly designed to minimize costs and maximize efficiencies. They do not take advantage of the terrific local products as they cruise from place to place. So freshness of ingredients is sacrificed in favor of program convenience. They claim there are reasons (or excuses) for this, but others seem to be able to take advantage of local fresh product availability. That's all I have to say about this topic. Everyone has to judge for themselves.
  15. Hi, Could someone please confirm on an 11 night Caribbean itinerary on the Koningsdam that the Gala nights should be night 3 & 10? That is what I see on Roger Jett's excellent site but I'm just double checking with the experts here. It's our first time sailing HA :) I want to book Tamarind for the first gala night then we will participate in the second one. This strategy also gives us time to go back because I keep reading how excellent it is!! Thanks kindly.
  16. Are these places free? And I heard there is a Dutch Cafe where the drinks cost, but the sweets are free. Is that true?
  17. November 11, 2018 is the 100th anniversary of the armistice to end what was then called "The Great War". Whether you call this day Remembrance Day, Armistice Day, or Veteran's Day, it is the time to give special recognition to all the people who have served in the military. November 11th brings six cruise ships to Port Everglades. Koningsdam will be at Pier 26 (Port to) from 0430-1700. She is embarking on a 10-day Southern Caribbean Seafarer cruise. Sunday, November 11 Fort Lauderdale, FL Monday, November 12 Half Moon Cay, Bahamas Tuesday, November 13 Grand Turk, Turks and Caicos Islands Wednesday, November 14 Amber Cove, Dominican Republic Thursday, November 15 At Sea Friday, November 16 Bonaire Saturday, November 17 Curacao Sunday, November 18 Aruba Monday, November 19 At Sea Tuesday, November 20 At Sea Wednesday, November 21 Fort Lauderdale, FL Nieuw Amsterdam will be at Pier 19 (Starboard to) from 0515-1700. She is headed out on a 7-day Eastern Caribbean cruise which includes Nassau, a port HAL visits infrequently. Sunday, November 11 Fort Lauderdale, FL Monday, November 12 Nassau, Bahamas Tuesday, November 13 At Sea Wednesday, November 14 San Juan, Puerto Rico Thursday, November 15 St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands Friday, November 16 At Sea Saturday, November 17 Half Moon Cay, Bahamas Sunday, November 18 Fort Lauderdale, FL Also in port are Regal Princess at Pier 2 (0500-1600), Caribbean Princess at Pier 4 (0530-1600), Independence OTS at Pier 18 (0445-1700), and Majesty OTS at Pier 29 (0415-1600). The PTZtv webcams can be found at https://www.portevergladeswebcam.com and https://www.ftlauderdalewebcam.com . Eurodam will be in San Diego departing at 1700 ( webcam - sundiegolive.com). For the addicts: On Monday, November12 Nieuw Amsterdam will be in Nassau 0800-1600 ( https://www.portnassauwebcam.com) and Prinsendam in St. Maarten 0800-1700 (https://www.portstmaartenwebcam.com ). Next up: Zuiderdam on Wednesday the 14th.
  18. Hi HAL Fans! As the Koningsdam heads into her first dry dock (Dec 02-09, 2018; Freeport, Bahamas) there's been various chit-chats about the confirmed, probable, wishful, unlikely &/or unwanted changes forthcoming: add Rolling Stone Rock Room venue revise Music Walk arrangement implement "Social/Surf/Premium" Internet packages convert casino to smoke-free etc. A number of us CC's will be aboard the Koningsdam's first sailing post-dry dock (11-day Southern Caribbean; Dec 10-21, 2018) with the obligatory Meet & Greet, Live From's & Trip Reports planned. In anticipation of the ship's update what would you like to know changed &/or stayed the same? Begin list now ... Cheers. Dogstar.
  19. This seems like the perfect Oceanview Cabin, no other cabin on one side and very little activity around it. However, it is directly under the Bridge on deck 8. Will this cabin have any problem with noise? 😟
  20. We normally cruise on Princess. Found Good itineraries on Koningsdam. Have a few questions. Does this ship offer a buffet similar to Royal or Regal Princess with numerous food station options? Do they offer in cabin On Demand tv? Movies Under the Stars is fun, does Koningsdam have outdoor evening Movies? Thank you
  21. We have decided to fly to Florida a couple of days before our cruise. Can anyone suggest a good hotel that is reasonable in price but has good quality
  22. What temperature are the public rooms on the Koningsdam usually kept at on a Caribbean cruise? Wer’re trying to determine what jackets, sweaters, etc. are necessary (we’re from a warmer part of the world and like it around 76 degrees).
  23. Considering going solo with friends in another cabin. Not loving the single supplement however. Looking for slight good news. Can I take 2 bottles of wine aboard? Will I get credit for two cruises? Any insight?
  24. I am new to CC and posted this enquiry just before the close down to re-design CC Forums etc. and cannot find my earlier post or any replies so here goes again. I was diagnosed as a Celiac a few years ago and have done one HAL cruise since my diagnosis so through that and reading many posts on gluten free I am reasonably informed on HAL options generally. But I have found little advice on what gluten free options are available at the Grand Dutch Café and Tamarind on the Koningsdam. I am using the Koningsdam as a guide as we are booked on a cruise to Norway on the Nieuw Statendam (to be commissioned later this year) and I assume it will be able to offer the same as the Koningsdam. Any advice would be welcomed.
  25. Thanks to CC, I have just discovered the ability to reserve cabanas on HAL. I have sent an inquiry to HAL requesting more details as I was unable to find any information about cabanas on their website. Do you need to reserve Cabana space for the entire cruise? Can you just reserve for a day or two? Can you wait until you are on board to reserve the cabanas? Are they worth the expense? We were on Regal Princess two years ago and found out about renting cabanas by accident. The ship was very crowded and it was almost impossible to secure deck space. We were able to rent for just the sea days and it was wonderful to not worry about where we would be sitting. The experience reminded us of when we first started cruising and were assigned deck chairs by the pool attendant.
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