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  1. The lead design firm for Holland America was Frans Dingemans from the Netherlands starting with the Statendam of 1992 and through the Nieuw Amsterdam. I do think Joe Farcus was a consultant for some aspects of design, but not 100% sure. I know starting with Eurodam other design firms were brought in to lead HAL in a more contemporary, fresh design direction.
  2. Getting away from the Kaiser following unification is kind of a common theme. Probably means the family wasn't Prussian. Could be Hessian or Bavarian, for instance. Do you know if the family was Catholic or Lutheran? You can do some regionalization on religion, although most of the maps are current, not mid to late 1800's. Do you know where they originally arrived in the US? There are also some patterns, some of which are actually more than a little funny in the 21st Century. For instance, a fairly large group migrated to Texas through Galveston in the mid 1840s from Hesse. At that point in time, the Hessians and Bavarians probably hated each other more than they hated the French (post Napoleon time period). They settled in a couple of areas north of San Antonio, in the Hill Country, and established New Braunfels and Fredericksburg. In the 20th Century, New Braunfels became a tourist destination in Texas, hosting an annual festival called Wurstfest (pronounced worst, not vurst), with prominent Blau mit Weiss (blue and white) Bavarian flags... Do some research on what you can do. In a bizarre way, the train trip, a little walking around, and maybe a short river cruise, on your middle day, could be more relaxing for your mother than the go-go-go that Amsterdam can become. And if I read correctly, you'll have another day on your return before flying home. It would be a long day, and I ordinarily wouldn't even suggest it, but it is something to think about. And I'd personally want to get out of Frankfurt towards Wiesbaden or Mainz where there's a little countryside, but that's a drive you almost certainly won't have time for. And the Frankfurt airport is just a (nicer than average) huge airport for a layover, inside.
  3. today is Chocolate Milk Shake Day, National Video Games Day, and National Day of Encouragement If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on the shoulders of giants. -- Isaac Newton Meal suggestion for today - Sausage & Feta Stuffed Tomatoes Drink of the Day - Chichi Wine of the day - Greywacke Pinot Noir Marlborough vintage 2014 At Sea Atlantic Eurodam destination Sint Eustatius eta 9/15 Nieuw Amsterdam destination Sint Eustatius eta 9/14 Volendam destination Scheveningen eta 9/14 Fuerte Amador Panama Koningsdam Oosterdam Gibraltar Westerdam Limassol Cyprus Noordam Zuiderdam Rosyth GB Rotterdam Scheveningen NL Anchorage Amsterdam Nieuw Statendam Zaandam Aigio Greece Maasdam -- Ship name as reported by AIS: AEGEAN MYTH Katakolo Veendam -- Ship name as reported by AIS: AEGEAN MAJESTY
  4. We cancelled our Jan 2021 cruises on Nieuw Amsterdam last week. Received all of our money back on charge card yesterday! Waiting for schedule to rebook Jan 2022. Great service!!!!
  5. today is National Cheeseburger Day, National POW / MIA Recognition Day, and Rosh Hashanah begins at sundown "Gee, Toto, I don't think we are in Kansas anymore." Meal suggestion for today - Turkey Pepper Kabobs Drink of the Day - Rum Punch Wine of the day - Turley Zinfandel Paso Robles Ueberroth Vineyard vintage 2014 At Sea Caribbean Eurodam destination Willemstad eta 9/19 Oosterdam destination Willemstad eta 9/27 At Sea Mediterranean Sea Zuiderdam destination Marsaxlokk Malta eta 9/21 Balboa Panama Anchorage Koningsdam Gibraltar Westerdam Limassol Cyprus Noordam Scheveningen NL Anchorage Nieuw Statendam Volendam Zaandam Willemstad Nieuw Amsterdam
  6. I remember doing a stadium tour of the Olympic Stadium in Amsterdam (sorry 😬). There was a pretty nice restaurant that looked out at pitch level .
  7. This is the 1983 version so don't panic - this is the Nieuw Amsterdam III. On Google Earth I looked at Alang India, where ships go to die and there was either the Nieuw Amsterdam III or the Noordam III. The satellite view was dated in January of 2019 so the ship would be cut up by now. HAL had leased both ships but was still listed as the owner. Did HAL send one of them to Alang to be broken up ? The ship on the satellite view looks like either the Nieuw Amsterdam III or the Noordam III. We sailed on both ships and have many good memories. Sad to see them go.
  8. With the loss of the Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Maasdam & Veendam, I have removed all sailings on the future cruise listing for anyone sailing on the 4 sold ships. (Hopefully I didn’t miss anything 🙏🏻). It’s entirely possible that HAL might transfer some of these sailings to other ships that are remaining in the fleet. If that is the case for you, please repost your cruise details on the Future Cruise Listing just as you did originally. Here is the link for this week’s listing - Thank you 🙂
  9. Well - I recently made some changes and cancelled my March 2021 Caribbean sailing on the Nieuw Statendam and the my March 2022 sailing on Volendam to rebook for a b2b on Nieuw Statendam in the Meditrranean in October 2021. I feel about 90% that it will sail and about 75% sure there will be port changes. The bigger question is will the EU countries be admitting US citizens (without quarantine) by then or not. I think several cruise lines are modifying their European deployments for next year to be more appealing to EU/UK based clients in anticipation that US citizens may not be permitted to travel.
  10. The seal of the the city of Rotterdam is displayed here on the biggest hand painted banner ever to used in a football (soccer) stadium in Europe. It measured 105 by 50 meters and was completely handmade ( I know, I worked on it...). It was displayed before the cup game between the eternal rivals Feyenoord of Rotterdam and Ajax from amsterdam in october 2015. Feyenoord won the game ;-). As you can see , my avatar also displays this seal. This one in the tunnel before players reach the pitch in the Feyenoord stadium in Rotterdam. If you're ever in Rotterdam again, do a stadium tour !
  11. To date, COVID has caused significantly greater mortality than flu. Many of those who cruise frequently happen to be in the higher age groups, which do have increased mortality. It is not merely the threat of the disease, but how it will be handled onboard. I do not wish to be stuck in a cabin for weeks (Diamond Princess) or making my way home unexpectedly from half a world away (Ruby Princess) or sailing the seas while passengers are dying while port after port refuse entry to my ship (Amsterdam, Westerdam).
  12. October 12 was the last of a string of sea days on the Amsterdam so one final post from my 2011 Blount cruise. We had a full day in Montreal and I explored independently. I'll start with a bit of perspective on the size of that ship. Here it is next to an Aida ship about the same size as the S-Class. The highlight of the day was a visit to a train museum outside Montreal: I would not normally bring a Tux on a Blount cruise but I had one this time since I was transferring a couple days later to the Crystal Symphony: Roy
  13. today is Citizenship Day & Constitution Day, and National Apple Dumpling Day Stop searching. Happiness is right next to you. Meal suggestion for today - Sauteed Radishes with Green Beans Drink of the Day - Planters Punch Wine of the day - Matervini Malbec Luján de Cuyo Finca Perdriel vintage 2015 At Sea Caribbean Eurodam destination Willemstad eta 9/19 Koningsdam destination Willemstad eta 9/27 Nieuw Amsterdam destination Kralendijk Bonaire Oosterdam destination Willemstad eta 9/27 Gibraltar Westerdam Limassol Cyprus Noordam Zuiderdam Scheveningen NL Anchorage Nieuw Statendam Volendam Zaandam
  14. HOLLAND AMERICA BOARD'S FUTURE CRUISE LISTING Updated September 11th, 2020 We all love to hear what cruises you are booked on. I post the Bon Voyage threads 7 days before sailing so, to be included in this, you need to post your details here to allow sufficient time to be on the updated Future Cruise Listing. It’s better to post earlier than later but if it is later please post THREE weeks in advance to make sure it doesn’t get missed. We would also be interested to know if this is your first cruise, your first HAL cruise or if you are celebrating a birthday or anniversary. Details needed are in the 2nd post of this thread. Please use REPLY and not QUOTE when posting to this thread. Using 'Quote' makes a very long thread and difficult for others to read. While this list is a lot of fun, please don't mistake it for a Roll Call thread. You can go to the Roll Call Section here on Cruise Critic and find your cruise to sign up there too. That's where your Meet & Greet planning, tour sharing, and other activities specific to your cruise will be happening. This week’s additions and changes are in BOLD and highlighted in aqua (sea colours). DECEMBER 2020 Westerdam - 19-Dec-20 - 22 day South America & Antarctica Holiday StartrainDD - pre-cruise trip Dec. 13th to Igazu Falls Noordam - 20-Dec-20 - 15-day Far East Discovery LTC Motes - party of 7 Volendam - 21-Dec-20 - 14 day Holiday & New Year’s Cruise richwmn Infi Koningsdam - 26-Dec-20 - 7 day Mexican Riviera New Years Cruise ngaspar - celebrating their 53rd birthday & 2 grandsons’ graduations Zuiderdam - 27-Dec-20 - New Year’s Cruise fatcat04 - 3 generation cruise with grand moms, fatcat04 & kids JANUARY 2021 Koningsdam - 02-Jan-21 - 7 day Mexican Riviera mab4285 - first solo cruise & HAL cruise as an adult N Statendam - 06-Jan-21 - 21 day Southern Caribbean Wayfarer/Seafarer crystalspin - with dr'spin, mom & DBr0 & SIL, celebrating 30th anniversary & DB's 60th birthday shipshapegirl N Amsterdam - 09-Jan-21 - 7 day Tropical Caribbean deliver42 NCTribeFan - B2B with Jan. 16th Westerdam - 10-Jan-21 - 20 day South America & Antarctica (Santiago - BA) I like vacation bluesplayer Brewgirl1 - 1 more cruise with parents Norwegian Bliss - 10-Jan-21 - 7 day Mexican Riviera dobiemom N Amsterdam - 16-Jan-21 - 7 day Eastern Caribbean NCTribeFan - B2B following Jan. 9th N Amsterdam - 23-Jan-21 - 14 night Western & Tropical Caribbean columbusseminole2 N Statendam - 27-Jan-21 - 4 day Caribbean (HMC & Key West) Roz Westerdam - 30-Jan-21 - 20 day South America/Antarctica bizzeesheri - 1st solo cruise FEBRUARY 2021 Eurodam - 07-Feb-21 - 7 day Tropical Caribbean Cruise Suzy Volendam - 14-Feb-21 - 33 night final leg of Grand South America BJzink N Statendam - 17-Feb-21 - 21 day Southern Caribbean Wayfarer/Seafarer Cailey53 MARCH 2021 Westerdam - 05-Mar-21 - 31 day South America, Inca & Panama Canal Discovery Foxtrot 40 Zuiderdam - 17-Mar-21 - 11 day Panama Canal Sunfarer wdw1972 Eurodam - 21-Mar-21 - 7 day Tropical Caribbean summer slope - B2B with Mar. 28th N Statendam - 21-Mar-21 - 11 day Southern Caribbean Wayfarer doone - Friends & Family cruise fatcat04 Koningsdam - 21-Mar-21 - 7 day Mexican Riviera KroozNut - celebrating DW’s 71st birthday Koningsdam - 27-Mar-21 - 7 day Mexican Riviera WhiteStar1983 - family cruise celebrating sister’s birthday on board Oosterdam - 28-Mar-21 - 43 day Collector cruise New Zealand & Australia Traveling Dot Eurodam - 28-Mar-21 - 14 day Eastern/Western Caribbean summer slope - B2B following Mar. 21st N Statendam - 31-Mar-21 - 18 day Southern Caribbean Wayfarer/Eastern Caribbean Collectors Overhead Fred APRIL 2021 Koningsdam - 10-Apr-21 - 7 day Mexican Riviera ernieb - B2B with Apr 17 VictOriann N Statendam - 04-Apr-21 - 14 day Azores & Normandy shipshapegirl Koningsdam - 17-Apr-21 - Classic California Coastal ernieb - B2B following Apr 10th Live4cruises - B2B with April 24th Zuiderdam - 18-Apr-21 - 14 day Passage to Spain saltshell Koningsdam - 24-Apr-21 - 7 day Wine & Country Pacific Northwest lazey1 Live4cruises - B2B following Apr. 21st MAY 2021 Westerdam - 14-May-21 - 24 day Collector Adriatic Antiquities, Holy Land & Ancient Kingdoms Mandalay1903 Zaandam - 22-May-21 - 7 day Canada & New England Discovery BRWolf Crazy For Cats - B2B with May 29th Zaandam - 29-May-21 - 7 day Canada & New England Discovery Crazy For Cats - B2B following May 22nd JUNE 2021 N Statendam - 06-Jun-21 - 19 day Norse Legends & Jewels of the Baltics Stefanni0522 Zaandam - 17-Jul-21 - 35 day Voyage of the Vikings BJzink Westerdam - 19-Jun-21 - 12 night Greece & Adriatic Antiquities madera1 - celebrating 50th anniversary on board JULY 2021 Oosterdam - 04-Jul-21 - 7 day Alaskan Explorer luvteaching Eurodam - 10-Jul-21 - 7 day Alaskan Explorer Loreto - family cruise celebrating Loreto’s birthday N Statendam - 11-July-21 - 7 day Viking Sagas dobiemom Zaandam - 17-Jul-21 - 35 day Voyage of the Vikings BJzink VacationCharlene Oosterdam - 25-Jul-21 - 7 day Alaskan Explorer Cruise Suzy - introducing DD, DS & their spouses to their first cruise AUGUST 2021 Rotterdam - 01-Aug-21 - 7 day Inaugural Sailing 1ANGELCAT Rotterdam - 01-Aug-21 - 21 day Inaugural Sailing richwmn - B2B with Aug. 22 Cailey53 - 1st inaugural voyage bigjohn42 - anniversary celebration cruise Vict0riann Rotterdam - 08-Aug-21 - 14 day European Splendor palmerett doncarlos & fishbabe Zaandam - 21-Aug-21 - 7 day Historic Coasts Crazy For Cats Rotterdam - 22-Aug-21 - 7 day Sailing richwmn - B2B following Aug. 1st Oosterdam - 22-Aug-21 - 7 day Alaskan Explorer crunchii & Zarmengar Island Princess - 26-Aug-21 - 14 day Scandinavia & Russia Collection StLouisCruisers - B2B with Sept. 9th Emerald Princess - 28-Aug-21 - 7 day Inside Passage luvteaching - B2B with Eurodam Sept. 4th SEPTEMBER 2021 Eurodam - 04-Sep-21 - Alaska Explorer luvteaching - B2B following Emerald Princess Aug. 28th Island Princess - 09-Sep-21 - 16 day Icelandic & Norwegian Fjords StLouisCruisers - B2B following Aug. 26th Noordam - 12-Sep-21 - Triple Denali land Sept. 8th & cruise tour Bill S - land tour beginning Sept. 8th Volendam - 22-Sep-21 - 7 day Alaska BJzink — with DD & SIL on their 1st HAL cruise Avalon Waterway Artistry II -22-Sep-21 - 13 day Rhine & Moselle River cruise Loreto -1st river cruise OCTOBER 2021 Zaandam - 10-Oct-21 - 71 day Grand Africa StLouisCruisers Zuiderdam - 17-Oct-21 -24 day Mediterranean Empries &Romance pictonite Zuiderdam - 29-Oct-21 - 29 day Trans-Atlantic thecatservant NOVEMBER 2021 Zuiderdam - 10-Nov-21 - 17 day Spanish Farewell NextOne ger_77 - 5th TA, overdue celebration of ger’s significant birthday Dunmore2 - 1st HAL cruise, celebrating 2 major birthdays & 40th anniversary Taters kazu - replacing last year’s lost celebration of DH’s retirement & 25 anniversary Oosterdam - 20-Nov-21 - 32 day Australia Circumnavigation Mandalay1903 JANUARY 2022 Volendam - 02-Jan-22 - 10 day Sea of Cortez & Mexican Riviera DeeniEncinitas vinonme2 Westerdam - 05-Jan-22 - 22 day South America and Antarctica Mandalay1903 - B2B with Jan. 27th Zaandam - 03-Jan-22 - Grand World Voyage Scrapnana Westerdam - 27-Jan-22 - 22 day South America & Antarctica Mandalay1903 -B2B following Jan. 5th FEBRUARY 2022 Oceania Riviera - 19-Feb-22 - 17 day Caribbean DeeniEncinitas MARCH2022 Westerdam - 18-Mar-22 - 17 day Inca & Panama Canal Discovery (Santiago - San Diego) Live4cruises APRIL 2022 N Amsterdam - 09-Apr-22 - 17 day Panama Canal gypsymama5996 - 60th birthday celebration on board Volendam - 16-Apr-22 - 14 day Mexico thecatservant Koningsdam - 22-Apr-22 - 18 day Circle Hawaii Dogstar & Mrs. Dogstar - celebrating 30th anniversary JULY 2022 Norwegian Star -14-July-22 - 11 day Iceland & Greenland out of Reykjavik Bramcruiser - belated retirement gift for other half HAPPY CRUISING EVERYONE! Jacqui
  15. Thank you for the Daily, Rich. Where I live (at least my county) we are calling it Indigenous Peoples Day. I've added Arthritis to my care list today. I have at least one old but active farmer in my family. Many moments of frustration in these trying times. Not convinced on the quote. Not familiar with Chicken Posole but it will be takeout from McDonalds today anyway since I have 2 early evening meetings at the fire house. My alternate menu suggestion is Chilled Strawberry Bisque, Chicken Scaloppini , and Apricot Crisp as served on the Amsterdam October 12, 2017. Today's care list: Mrs Vmax getting ready for surgery Caregiver Gsel and her DH battling Alzheimers Burnout at work, especially Live4cruises California and Colorado Wildfires those affected by Delta those with Arthritis Kazu’s sister, niece, and BIL Debbie’s nephew and his girlfriend Denise’s friend with stage 4 metastatic lung cancer (but pleased she’s comfortable). and Krazy Kruisers and Joe Today's Celebrations and shoutouts: Sharon’s son’s birthday Family get-together for Norseh2o fatcat’s son emerging unhurt from a bad accident Front Line Health Care Workers Teachers and school workers Congrats Lakers (And NBA for a Covid-free season) cruisin single helping Colorado firefighters Lifting of some evacuation orders in Colorado 17 Covid-free days in New Zealand ger_77's neighbors and Thanksgiving in Canada Roy
  16. today is Teddy Bear Day and International Buy a Priest a Beer Day Be braver -- you can't cross a chasm in two small jumps. Meal suggestion for today - Chicken Tacos with Avocado Salsa Drink of the Day - Waikiki Punch Wine of the day - Karine Lauverjat Sancerre vintage 2016 At Sea Atlantic Eurodam destination Sint Eustatius eta 9/15 Nieuw Amsterdam destination Sint Eustatius eta 9/14 Volendam destination Scheveningen eta 9/14 At Sea Gulf of Aden Noordam destination Limassol eta 9/14 Zuiderdam destination Limassol eta 9/14 At Sea Pacific Koningsdam destination Balboa eta 9/9 Oosterdam destination unknown at this time Gibraltar Westerdam Rosyth GB Rotterdam Scheveningen NL Anchorage Amsterdam Nieuw Statendam Zaandam Aigio Greece Maasdam -- Ship name as reported by AIS: AEGEAN MYTH Katakolo Veendam -- Ship name as reported by AIS: AEGEAN MAJESTY
  17. The biggest difference, in terms of the AK experience, between the ships is Konigsdam will have significantly restricted views from the Promenade vs. the Nieuw Amsterdam (due to the placement of the lifeboats). Having done 2 AK cruises on 2 different HAL ships, I found on the Glacier days I spent most of my time either on the bow, the forward facing decks (accessible from the passenger hallways), on the upper deck midship by the magrodome (open deck above Lido Pool), or by the aft pool. I used the promenade deck only minimally on both sailings so would not let that be my sole deciding factor. Others will disagree with me. Have you checked the AK port schedules to see how many ships are planned to be in port with you each day? That can be a bigger factor than the slight size difference between Konigsdam and Nieuw Amsterdam
  18. Today is Sewing Machine Day and Swap Ideas Day Meal suggestion for today - Grilled Tilapia Piccata Drink of the Day - Hawaiian Sunset Wine of the day - Hamilton Russell Chardonnay Hemel-en-Aarde Valley vintage 2017 At Sea Atlantic Eurodam destination Sint Eustatius eta 9/15 Nieuw Amsterdam destination Sint Eustatius eta 9/14 Volendam destination Scheveningen eta 9/14 At Sea Pacific Koningsdam destination Balboa eta 9/9 Oosterdam destination unknown at this time Gibraltar Westerdam Limassol Cyprus Noordam Zuiderdam Rosyth GB Rotterdam Scheveningen NL Anchorage Amsterdam Nieuw Statendam Zaandam Aigio Greece Maasdam -- Ship name as reported by AIS: AEGEAN MYTH Katakolo Veendam -- Ship name as reported by AIS: AEGEAN MAJESTY
  19. It looks like you were given good info to explore Alaska tour options. Ref the ships, I've cruised both and I recommend Koningsdam. HAL is not known for their entertainment....in fact, they're kinda known for not having it...but the new Pinnacle Class ships have the best entertainment in the HAL fleet. Plus, it has a specialty restaurant on board called Rudi's Sel de Mer that I think is excellent. I also cruised Eurodam last year, which is the same as Nieuw Amsterdam. After that cruise, I pretty much swore off HAL except for the new Pinnacle Class ships. It's a shame too because when I first cruised Nieuw Amsterdam, it was a really nice experience. They've just cut back too much of the things that made her special.
  20. I just booked a Neptune guarantee on the Nieuw Statendam (sister ship to Koningsdam) and was wondering about the 4 Neptune cabins that are far forward on decks 10 and 11. Has anyone stayed in these and if so, how did you like them?
  21. today is Labor Day, National Salami Day, Neither Rain nor Snow Day, and National Beer Lover's Day $100 invested at 7% interest for 100 years will become $100,000, at which time it will be worth absolutely nothing. -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love" (Robert Heinlein) Meal suggestion for today - Zucchini & Cheese Roulades Drink of the Day - Hurricane Wine of the day - di Meo Greco di Tufo G vintage 2016 At Sea Atlantic Eurodam destination Sint Eustatius eta 9/15 Nieuw Amsterdam destination Sint Eustatius eta 9/14 Volendam destination Gibraltar eta 9/8 Westerdam destination Gibraltar eta 9/9 At Sea Gulf of Aden Noordam destination Suez Canal eta 9/8 Zuiderdam destination Suez Canal eta 9/8 Punta Arenas Koningsdam Oosterdam Rosyth GB Rotterdam Scheveningen NL Anchorage Amsterdam Nieuw Statendam Zaandam Aigio Greece Maasdam -- Ship name as reported by AIS: AEGEAN MYTH Katakolo Veendam -- Ship name as reported by AIS: AEGEAN MAJESTY
  22. Ok but you started the thread saying your cruise our of Amsterdam was cancelled and Ashland asked if that was the Jewel
  23. Some ports you are required to leave the ship until it is zeroed down Not sure if Amsterdam is one of those ports or not It is out one door & back into the port building where you wait to reboard You do have to do this in US ports Some people like to go off sightseeing or pick up supplies but in the "New World" of cruising they may not allow B2Bs
  24. Not sure what you are trying to say. Anthem never was scheduled to sail from Amsterdam.
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