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  1. We had so much fun on some of these ships (Sun Princess, HAL Veendam, the Regal Princess sister ship, Crown). Great cruising memories....same for Celebrity Mercury & Zenith and RCCL Monarch (our first cruise). Would happily go back to those days of cruising.
  2. Thank you. I was thinking that when our Veendam and Rotterdam cruises disappeared our refunds would soon appear. Sadly they still appear on our accounts.
  3. In summary Costa Atlantica - sold to China JV, planned departure Costa Mediterranea - sold to China JV, early departure Pacific Aria - sold to CMV, early departure Pacific Dawn - sold to CMV, early departure Costa Victoria - sold for scrap MV Oceana - sold to SeaJets in Greece MS Maasdam - sold with MS Veendam to SeaJets company MS Veendam - sold with MS Maasdam to SeaJets company MS Amsterdam - sold with MS Rotterdam to Fred Olsen on credit MS Rotterdam - sold with MS Amsterdam to Fred Olsen on credit
  4. An article in Cruise Industry News today lists/includes the four ships sold in Fiscal Year 2019 as part of "the eighteen" and does not yet lists the Sun Princess. With the latter added, that would make seventeen so one more to go! The jury is still out as to which ship that No. 18 is https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23517-here-are-the-cruise-ships-carnival-is-selling.html The score card updated: The seventeen confirmed as sold: 1. Carnival Fantasy - sold for scrap and being broken up at Aliaga, Turkey 2. Carnival Inspiration
  5. Here's the list I'm seeing of the cruise ships Carnival has sold so far. This accounts for 17 of the total 18 ships that Carnival has said they were going to sell. The sale of the two Princess ships was confirmed yesterday. Costa Atlantica Costa Mediterranea Costa Victoria Costa neoRomantica Amsterdam Rotterdam Maasdam Veendam Oceana Carnival Fantasy Carnival Inspiration Carnival Imagination Carnival Fascination Pacific Dawn Pacific Aria Sun Princess Sea Princess
  6. Ships get listed on those "for sale" web sites, sometimes for a very long time, before anything happens. I think I understand how much Black Watch and Boudicca mean to you good people. Prinsendam, Statendam, Maasdam, Veendam, and Ryndam have meant the same to many of us HAL Mariners. It's almost like loosing a member of one's family. So sad.
  7. The score card updated: The thirteen confirmed as sold: 1. Carnival Fantasy - sold for scrap and being broken up at Aliaga, Turkey 2. Carnival Inspiration - sold for scrap and being broken up at Aliaga, Turkey 3. Carnival Imagination - sold for scrap and arrived at Aliaga, Turkey on 14 Sep 4. Carnival Fascination - sold (probably also for scrap - currently at Cadiz, Spain) 5. Costa Victoria - sold to Genova Trasporti Marittimi for future scrapping 6. Costa neoRomantica - sold to Celestyal Cruises as Celestyal Experience 7. HAL Rotterdam sold to Fred O
  8. The question I get asked a lot is if there is a jail onboard the Dam ships. A jail on a ship is known as a brig, not to be confused with a sailing vessel with two square-rigged masts. Both the former "S" (Statendam, Maasdam, Ryndam and Veendam) and the (partially) still current "R" class (Rotterdam, Zaandam, Volendam and Amsterdam) came out with a brig located on A-Deck forward adjacent the paint store. It is/was a one-person brig with a bed, that's it. The Vista-class and up did not have a brig and the ones on the "S" an "R"-class ships have been used for storage. As far as I kn
  9. The score card updated: The twelve confirmed as sold (one on long term charter): 1. Carnival Fantasy - sold for scrap and being broken up at Aliaga, Turkey 2. Carnival Inspiration - sold for scrap and being broken up at Aliaga, Turkey 3. Carnival Imagination - sold for scrap and arrived at Aliaga, Turkey on 14 Sep 4. Carnival Fascination - sold (probably also for scrap - currently at Cadiz, Spain) 5. Costa Victoria - sold to Genova Trasporti Marittimi for future scrapping 6. Costa neoRomantica - sold to Celestyal Cruises as Celestyal Experience 7. HAL
  10. The score card updated: The twelve confirmed as sold (one on long term charter): 1. Carnival Fantasy - sold for scrap and being broken up at Aliaga, Turkey 2. Carnival Inspiration - sold for scrap and being broken up at Aliaga, Turkey 3. Carnival Imagination - sold for scrap and arrived at Aliaga, Turkey on 14 Sep 4. Carnival Fascination - sold (probably also for scrap - currently at Cadiz, Spain) 5. Costa Victoria - sold to Genova Trasporti Marittimi for future scrapping 6. Costa neoRomantica - sold to Celestyal Cruises as Celestyal Experience 7. HAL
  11. I have them as part of the (now) 18. Missing 2. Anyone know or see online who they are? Aida / Princess / P&O / 5 & 6th Carnival Fantasy class (Ecstasy 1991 / Sensation 1993)? Costa neoClassica -> Bahamas Paradise Costa neoRomantica -> Celestyal Cruises HAL Amsterdam -> Fred Olsen HAL Rotterdam -> Fred Olsen HAL Maasdam -> 2nd buyer HAL Veendam -> 2nd buyer P&O Oceana -> Greek ferry company P&O Aus Pacific Aria -> on way to Cyprus P&O Aus Pacific Dawn -> on way to Cyprus Sun Princess > Peace Ships Sc
  12. So far, Carnival Corporation has sold the Costa Mediterranea, Costa Atlantica, Costa Victoria, Costa neoRomantica, Oceana, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Maasdam, Veendam, Carnival Fantasy, Carnival Inspiration and the Carnival Imagination. The Carnival Fascination has, officially, also been removed from Carnival's fleet as she has been placed into cold lay-up in Cadiz with no return date set. Another ship leaving the fleet could be Princess Cruises' Sun Princess, who fits the background description given today by Peaceboat, who announced the charter of a new ship, in 2021.
  13. Amsterdam slipped off during the night and is now at Firth of Forth Anchorage in Great Britain. Since all four of the recently sold ships are now in the hands of the new owners, I suppose it is a good time to stop tracking their movements. I hope all four have productive stays with the new owners. Amsterdam was the last of the fleet that I cruised on to complete the fleet. I had a very nice Alaska Cruise last year. Rotterdam I did the Voyage of the Vikings which was fabulous. Maasdam was the second ship I cruised on and had many more along with several on Veendam.
  14. today is Mayflower Day, Mexican Independence, and American Legion Day Meal suggestion for today - Gingered Spaghetti Salad Drink of the Day - Kahlua Colada Wine of the day - Wines of Substance Cabernet Sauvignon Washington Cs Substance vintage 2017 At Sea Caribbean Eurodam destination Willemstad eta 9/19 Nieuw Amsterdam destination Willemstad Firth of Forth Anchorage GB Amsterdam Fuerte Amador Panama Koningsdam Oosterdam Gibraltar Westerdam Limassol Cyprus Noordam Zuiderdam Rosyth GB Rotterdam Scheveningen NL
  15. The score card: The ten confirmed as sold: 1. Carnival Fantasy - sold for scrap and being broken up at Aliaga, Turkey 2. Carnival Inspiration - sold for scrap and being broken up at Aliaga, Turkey 3. Carnival Imagination - sold for scrap and arrived at Aliaga, Turkey on 14 Sep 4. Costa Victoria - sold to Genova Trasporti Marittimi for future scrapping 5. Costa neoRomantica - sold to Celestyal Cruises as Celestyal Experience 6. HAL Rotterdam sold to Fred Olsen as Borealis 7. HAL Amsterdam sold to Fred Olsen as Bolette 8. HAL Maasdam sold to Seajets as A
  16. Only 3 unnamed ships to be sold (From the CC news article https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5594/ ) So far, ships that have been sold for scrap include several of Carnival Cruise Line's oldest ships -- its Fantasy-class, including Fantasy, Fascination, Imagination and Inspiration, along with Costa Victoria. (Cruise Critic is keeping a running tally.) The company also sold four Holland America ships (Maasdam, Veendam, Amsterdam and Rotterdam), three Costa ships (Costa Atlantica, Costa Mediterranea and Costa neoRomantica); two P&O Australia ships (Pacific Aria and Pacific Dawn) an
  17. I meant to add this to this thread, so pardon my repetition: For those who, like me, need a score card this is a quick list (prone to error) that I compiled of Carnival Corporation ships built in the 90s. Taking at face value their statement to improve efficiency and maintenance costs I assume the older ships are the criteria. One point, points guy says Fascination was sold, others say not. I assume he is right. AidaCara, Carnival: Triumph, Elation, Paradis, Destiny, Sensation, Ecstasy, HAL: Volendam, Princess: Grand Princess, Sun Princes, Sea Princess a
  18. For those who, like me, need a score card this is a quick list (prone to error) that I compiled of Carnival Corporation ships built in the 90s. Taking at face value their statement to improve efficiency and maintenance costs I assume the older ships are the criteria. One point, points guy says Fascination was sold, others say not. I assume he is right. AidaCara, Carnival: Triumph, Elation, Paradis, Destiny, Sensation, Ecstasy, HAL: Volendam, Princess: Grand Princess, Sun Princes, Sea Princess and Pacific Princess. (information from Wikipedia) According to the P
  19. “In total, the 18 ships represent approximately 12 percent of pre-pause capacity and only three percent of operating income in 2019,” Carnival Corporation stated. “The sale of less efficient ships will result in future operating expense efficiencies of approximately two percent per available lower berth day (“ALBD”) and a reduction in fuel consumption of approximately one percent per ALBD,” Carnival said. So far, Carnival Corporation has sold the Costa Mediterranea, Costa Atlantica, Costa Victoria, Costa neoRomantica, Oceana, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Maasdam, Veendam, Car
  20. today is Greenpeace Day and Make a Hat Day Felt Hat Day If you are a fatalist, what can you do about it? -- Ann Edwards-Duff Lord, defend me from my friends; I can account for my enemies. -- Charles D'Hericault Meal suggestion for today - Avocado Crab Boats Drink of the Day - Midori Colada Wine of the day - Poliziano Vino Nobile di Montepulciano vintage 2016 Fuerte Amador Panama Koningsdam Oosterdam Gibraltar Westerdam Limassol Cyprus Noordam Zuiderdam Rosyth GB Rotterdam Sc
  21. Definitely Maasdam. I zoomed in in your photos (very ethereal - beautiful pics!) and the funnel is definitely an S-class ship. Since there were only two S-class ships left in the fleet in 2019, and Veendam was in Europe and Maasdam in Alaska, it could only be Maasdam.
  22. today is National Live Creative Day, International Crab Fest Day, and National Cream-Filled Donut Day Grelb's Reminder: Eighty percent of all people consider themselves to be above average drivers. Meal suggestion for today - Rustic Summer Vegetable Pasta Drink of the Day - Pink Hawaiian Mljito Wine of the day - La Rioja Alta Rioja 890 Gran Reserva Selección Especial vintage 2005 At Sea Atlantic Eurodam destination Sint Eustatius eta 9/15 Fuerte Amador Panama Koningsdam Oosterdam Gibraltar Westerdam Limassol Cypru
  23. Personally I liked Ryndam the best. Loved Veendam until they added the bump on the stern. (I never thought that was well done), but all the S Class ship were really nice.
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