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  1. Hey everyone! We are on our third attempt to take our 1st RCCL cruise. We had been scheduled to go on Harmony in July, and then November so now we're trying to reschedule yet again for NEXT July (2021). The bummer is that Harmony is being moved from PC to Italy/Spain when we're looking to change our dates and Allure is being put in its place. Are we going to be missing out on a lot by taking that boat? If so we can still cancel and get a refund, but we have been so excited to try something new (we've been Carnival cruisers for a while). I know they are considered the same "class" (Learned that here!) but even still it seems like there's a lot of variance between ships. Oasis is up in NJ, and the itinerary is just too long for our little one and it appears the newer boats are in Alaska and Asia. We'd prefer a Florida departure as we are within driving distance. Insights greatly appreciated.
  2. Short question... We are slated to sail on JANUARY 3RD 2021 on Harmony OTS. What do you think the odds oar that it will actually set sail? Lord, Do I miss cruising.!!!
  3. ABOUT YOUR UPCOMING TRAVELS Dear Guest, We hope that this email finds you healthy and safe and that with each passing day, we’re closer to getting back to a more regular day-to-day. While this is like nothing any of us have ever experienced, we continue to evaluate how it impacts our upcoming sailings. As you know, this pandemic has been, and still is, quite fluid. Our most recent plan was to resume operation on October 31st, 2020. However, to ensure we have ample time to focus on our healthy return to service initiatives, our global suspension has been extended through November 30th, 2020, with a plan to resume operation on December 1st, 2020. As a result, your sailing will unfortunately be cancelled. We’re terribly sorry for the impact to your vacation. Despite the current circumstances, our primary goal continues to be a seamless healthy return to service. We’re so focused on welcoming our guests back, we’ve teamed up with Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings Ltd., and assembled the “Healthy Sail Panel” - a multifaceted team of globally recognized experts. The panel will work alongside our new Public Health & Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Calvin Johnson, and with their help our vision is to pioneer innovative ways to guide the cruise industry’s way forward in response to the pandemic. It goes without saying, we’re all in this together. While we all wish we were cruising, we do have some options for you, including an option that has been very well received by our guests, as it provides a little something extra to use once we all start cruising again! Here are your options: 125% Future Cruise Credit: We’re providing you with a 125% Future Cruise Credit to book a new cruise by December 31, 2021 for sailings on or before April 30th, 2022. This amount is based on your total cruise fare paid. And, we’re giving you a little extra, knowing that this is such a unique circumstance. We’ll automatically send your Future Cruise Credit via email by November 4th, 2020. So, there’s nothing for you to do! Taxes & fees and any RoyalUp upgrades will be automatically refunded. Current refund processing is around 45 days. We are working as quickly as possible, and we appreciate your patience. Please note: If you opted into the Cruise with Confidence 100% Future Cruise Credit, this offer does not apply. And, if you previously used a Future Cruise Credit (including previous Global Suspension FCCs), you’ll receive a new Future Cruise Credit. This will be for 125% of any new monies paid on this sailing, plus the value of your original credit at 100% of its value, with an expiration date of December 31, 2021 and a sail by date of April 30, 2022. If you were already impacted by a sailing that was previously cancelled due to a global suspension and paid additional monies on a new booking within this extended suspension period, you are still able to opt in to refund one or both cancelled bookings via the process below. Lift and Shift: If you prefer to move your existing booking to a sailing next year - we’re happy to move you! We will price protect the original pricing and/or promotion on the same itinerary, length, product, and stateroom category as your original sailing within 4 weeks (before or after) of the original sail date the following year. For example, if you are moving from a November 30, 2020 sailing, you can move to a sailing that is the same itinerary, length, product, and stateroom category, and the sail date between October 30, 2021 - December 30, 2021. Please know, price protection covers your cruise fare/promotion on an applicable sailing only and excludes taxes and fees, gratuities, and other non-cruise fare items, as these may change. You must decide to move to a new sailing by October 16th, 2020. If not, we will automatically issue you a Future Cruise Credit. Complimentary Casino offers are not eligible for Lift & Shift. 100% Refund: Or, if you prefer a full refund, which is a lower value than the future cruise credit offer above, we’re happy to process this for you. Given how fluid this situation is, and the opportunity to use the extra credit being offered, you have until December 31, 2020 to request a refund and deactivate your certificate. Please contact us to start the refund process, forfeiting the higher value of your 125% Future Cruise Credit. To avoid waiting on the phone to cancel, click here and we will get the refund process started for you. Note: Please know, once we receive your refund request, we unfortunately won’t be able to accept an FCC request if you change your mind. We’ll then deactivate your Future Cruise Credit and process your refund to your original form(s) of payment, which will include any non-refundable deposits. You can expect to receive your refund 45 days after you submit your refund request. Please note: If you used a Cruise with Confidence certificate on this sailing, and you request a refund instead, we’ll refund any NEW funds paid above the certificate amount, and we’ll reinstate your original Cruise with Confidence certificate. And, a special option for those that also purchased Cruise Planner Items… You can opt-in to receive an Onboard Credit in the value of 125% of the total Cruise Planner purchases on your reservation. Click here by October 16th, 2020 to request your higher value credit and we’ll email you your credit by November 4th, 2020. If we don’t hear from you on or before October 16th, 2020, your Cruise Planner purchases will be automatically refunded. You’ll receive your refund within 45 days of your booking’s cancellation. We are working as quickly as possible and appreciate your patience during these unprecedented times. Also, if you opt for a cruise fare refund or for Lift and Shift, you are not be eligible for this Cruise Planner Onboard Credit offer. Questions about how the Cruise Planner credit works? Click here for more details. Guests with air or hotel booked… Refundable air or hotel accommodations purchased through Royal Caribbean will be automatically refunded to you within 45 days after we process the cancellation. If you booked non-refundable air through Royal Caribbean or booked on your own, please contact the service provider directly for your options with them. If you have any questions, please contact your Travel Advisor immediately or contact us at: 1 800 754 500 in Australia 0344 493 4005 in the U.K. 1 866 562 7625 in the U.S. or Canada All other countries, please visit http://www.royalcaribbean.com/contactus for your local Royal Caribbean International office phone number. We appreciate your patience, understanding, and continued loyalty. We will all come out of this stronger than ever. Stay healthy and safe. We miss our guests and we’ll be ready to welcome you back soon. Sincerely,
  4. Attached are two pictures of water we have been getting onboard. The Panna is the still and the San Pelligrino is what have been getting in specialty. The True is from the bars.
  5. Hello All, Well it's been a year to the day since we boarded the beautiful Harmony, and wow what a difference a year makes. This was our first Crown Loft, and it was sooooo incredible. What an experience this was for us, and the kids. We have the Quantum booked for Alaska in August 2021, and hope it happens, but in the mean time I wanted to share this video with you just to wet your whistle a little bit:)
  6. Just booked a solo ocean view cabin for next September. I was just noticing some concerns about the location of these rooms. If any one has stayed in one maybe they can help out. First, they are on deck four under the running track on deck five. They do seem to be inset a little but I was wondering if purchase anyone has stayed in one of these rooms and noticed much noise from the joggers early in the morning? I get up early but like my peace and quiet. Second, they are just outside the casino. I know it’ll smell smoky in the hall but I would hope it wouldn’t so much in the room. I can live with both but need to know how bad (or not) to expect it to be. Obviously as a solo traveler in a tiny cabin, I won’t actually be in the room very much.
  7. All aboard!! Hello, and welcome to my trip report for the Shinglebells' 11th Annual Christmas Cruise aboard Royal Caribbean's Harmony of the Seas! It's been years since I've written a photo review on the Royal Caribbean Cruise Critic Board, so let me reintroduce myself. I'm Victoria, a.k.a. Victoria on Vacation, a.k.a. LittleMissMagic. If you're a long-time CCer, you may remember my first ever photo review of Adventure of the Seas (the photos no longer show, but I re-created it with photos here). I also have a travel blog, Victoria on Vacation - I'd love it if you check it out. Back in 2009, my family (the Shingletons - but during the holiday season we refer to ourselves as the Shinglebells.... as in Shinglebells Shinglebells, Shingle all the wayyyyyy!) decided to set sail on a cruise over Christmas, and it's been a holiday tradition ever since. We've sailed the Caribbean - Eastern, Western, and Southern, as well as the Panama Canal (one partial transit from Florida, and one complete transit from Los Angeles to Florida). Often, we'll choose our cruise based on the ports of call and where we would like to travel. However, due to work schedules, we were limited to a 7-day cruise, which meant that most ports of call on the itineraries would be places we've visited many times before. So rather than choosing our cruise based on ports of call, we decided to choose based on a ship we wanted to explore. Meet the "cast" of the Shinglebells - Me/Victoria - I'm 28 years old and live in Los Angeles. I'm currently pursuing my license in architecture. I've also been sticking a camera in everyone's face to document and meticulously share our family vacations for over a decade. Sister/Rachel - She's 26 years old and lives in Atlanta. She works in construction as an assistant project manager for a general contracting company. Rachel is the planner for our cruise vacations. She reads cruise blogs, reviews, and Cruise Critic! Mom/Sharon a.k.a. Judy (it's her personality, she's a Judy... you'll see) - Not sure if she'd want me to say her age, but sorry, Judes, we're doing this for everyone.... 58 years old and lives in Anderson, South Carolina. A Judy is prepared for everything. Got a problem? A Judy will solve it. Dad/Boyd a.k.a. Stove (his personality name... you'll get it) - He's 65 years old, living his best life with my mom in South Carolina. He was retired this time last year, but now he's back to consulting because a Stove doesn't slow down. You'll see him on the waterslides, zipline, and even the Flow Rider. Rachel is a master of spreadsheets, data, numbers.... so she created a very thorough spreadsheet of all potential cruises that fit our schedule, along with facts on the ports of call and ship. We then all reviewed and ranked our top five ships in order of our individual preference. That gave us an overall winner - the Harmony of the Seas (we actually had Harmony/Symphony as one option since they were nearly identical ships, only the Harmony set sail from Cape Canaveral and the Symphony from Miami... ultimately chose Harmony because my parents and Rachel could drive down to Orlando and pick me up from my flight (we would all be flying to Miami). If you're curious about which cruises we didn't choose this year, Norwegian Encore, Disney Fantasy, Celebrity Edge, and Norwegian Joy (Mexican Riviera) were in the running. Harmony of the Seas set sail from Cape Canaveral on Sunday, December 22. We all arrived in Orlando on Saturday, and we spent the night at a Springhill Suites by the airport. The airport was super crazy that day, and so many people were in Orlando for their Christmas vacations. We ate dinner at the Chili's by the airport, and it was PACKED. Normally, we just arrive at the port whenever our boarding pass tells us to (2 PM), but Rachel advised us that we should arrive early because we wanted to get on the ship as soon as possible to figure out our dining situation. See, on Black Friday, Rachel and I were planning to purchase the Unlimited Dining Package ($179/person on Black Friday) for the entire family as a Christmas gift. The Unlimited Dining Package allows you to eat at any of the specialty (for-charge) restaurants on board as many times as you want. This appealed to us because, to be frank, we are bored of the bland main dining room food on Royal Caribbean. We sailed on the Navigator of the Seas last year and were not at all pleased with our main dining room experience. Also, the Harmony of the Seas and other Oasis-class ships have more specialty restaurants, and it's something different that we were excited to try. However, when Black Friday rolled around, we were getting cold feet.... finally on Cyber Monday, I decided I hate the main dining room food, so I need to purchase this..... only to go online and realize it wasn't an option to add to my cart. It had sold out. I was frustrated, but since I was on the site, I booked the Thrill waterpark pass at Perfect Day Coco Cay for the entire family ($99/person on Black Friday.... I think it may have been a lower price earlier). A few weeks later, Royal Caribbean sent out an email to all of us saying, "Hurry, book your Unlimited Dining for 30% off." So Rachel got on the website and added to her cart four Unlimited Dining Packages. However, she made the mistake of texting my dad about the Unlimited Dining, so he also got onto his account.... which wouldn't allow her to purchase the two dining packages for mom and dad (they were in a different stateroom). His account locked up and wouldn't let him book anything. Rachel went ahead and purchased the 2 packages for her and myself. We thought, oh, simple technical error.... just call. So my Dad called Royal Caribbean, and they told him he couldn't purchase it because it was sold out. He mentioned that we already bought two, we just wanted two more so the entire family could have it. Somehow, miraculously, he was able to speak to a manager who said she would speak to a manager aboard the ship to see if they could make an exception. Manager called him back... no exception. I thought, no way, they should be able to accommodate us, it's just two people, and we already have two. So I called... no, it's sold out, we can't do it. The woman I spoke with was comically casual and kept calling me "mamiii." Then Rachel called and asked to speak to a manager, and that person said no, then she called back again and might have gotten the same person but was then allowed to speak to a manager. Anyway, no one could override the system and help us purchase the additional two Unlimited Dining Packages. We were advised by a few of the reps we talked to that we could try to purchase it onboard. So we decided to keep Unlimited Dining for Rachel and myself, and Mom and Dad had the 3-night dining package and would purchase two more individual reservations, so we would eat specialty a total of five nights.... unless Stove could successfully acquire the Unlimited Dining Package once onboard. So we got to the port very early that day, around 10 AM - earlier than we ever arrive. I've heard of the people that just can't wait to get on the ship, but it's never been us. We thought it might be very crowded, but it wasn't. This is Rachel, struggling to keep her patience as Stove had to run back for something he forgot in the car. What's different about boarding the Harmony of the Seas (and maybe other Oasis-class ships) is that you can do a bunch of online check-in that allows you to not have to wait in a line to get checked in at the port (after you go through security). The only thing I didn't know to do was add a photo. But we already had our credit card set up and our passport information entered. We waited in a line where we didn't even have to go to the desk - someone just scanned our Passports, then took our photo... then on to the ship! Your SeaPass card is waiting for you in your room, and you board the ship using the SetSail ticket that you can print beforehand, or add to your phone in the app. I tried to take a photo of the ship boarding area, but some lady told me that I couldn't take photos there because it was a security area. I believe that she is wrong (we were by where you scan your ticket to board the ship... completely different area of the building than security) and just bored and wanted something to do, but I obliged. So no boarding photos. Blame cranky lady. We boarded the ship on Deck 5 - they open up a big door by Sorrento's Pizza that you walk through. The plan was that Stove would go and try to get Unlimited Dining (honestly, Rachel and I didn't believe that he would be successful in this venture), and Rachel would make our five specialty reservations. Luckily, since we were on the ship so early, there were no other people there to make specialty reservations. He pretty much had availability for all restaurants, except for some restaurants on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day for which they were doing special events (I think it was Chops and Wonderland - Rachel will read this and confirm). So we made all of our reservations at either 7:00 or 7:30. We weren't given a print-out or anything with confirmation of our reservations, so Rachel had him repeat it back to her and wrote it down. Later, all but one reservation would appear in the Royal Caribbean app.
  8. Did our on line checkin last week for the Harmony on Nov. 15th. and all showed complete except arrival times which were not displayed. Unable to show boarding passes as normal . This morning and addition showed up and Boarding time appeared with the first starting at 230pm, every half hour until 530pm. We have had 5 cruises cancelled already and don't plan on this sailing either but this shows it might still be a go. Normally sail around 430 but looks like they plan on doing a extensive sanitize like they did on the gastro after Nov. 8th cruise. We always book Jr. suites and are Diamond Plus and arrive around ten so will wait and see when any details come out. Will probably push back sail time to around 700. Wonder if any other Nov cruisers have gotten any boarding delay notices? Bob
  9. We are thinking of booking Harmony in April, going to Spain - I think it is about 9 days at sea before it makes a stop. We have always done Caribbean stops. How is it being at sea all of those days. Not sure if I would be able to do handle that many days. Is there entertainment every night? Would love to hear opinions on TA cruises.
  10. "LIVE" with Radio on Harmony of the Seas - April 2018
  11. Hi, We're doing a L & S to Harmony OTS and we're being allocated room 10641, I have mobility issues and really require to have the bed by the balcony. Has anyone stayed in this room or one near it where I can try to work out where the bed is in the room configuration. I know the usual way is to find a set of connecting rooms and the room to the right hand side is bed by balcony, but where this cabin is situated there are no connecting rooms. On the deck plan there is a huge space between 10617 (which is bed by bathroom), and 10629 and then no connecting rooms all the way to 10655. I'd be greatful for any help that can be given.
  12. Join the Bird on a fun, 3-day getaway to the Bahamas on the spectacular Harmony of the Seas! This will be the first voyage of the Harmony out of her new home port of Orlando (Port Canaveral). Come along for the ride! Mon - Orlando (Port Canaveral), Fl Tue - Nassau, Bahamas Wed - Cruising Thu - Orlando (Port Canaveral), Fl
  13. So how do I know if the bed is by the balcony or the sofa is by the balcony? I booked room 8166, is the bed or sofa going to be on the balcony? Thanks
  14. Does anyone know if the 1 bedroom aqua theatre suites on Harmony & Symphony are really as different as the videos I've seen on U-Tube? Harmony has no dining table in side at all, Symphony does with what looks like a very roomy living room area. Just wondering if the suites really are that different or if the videos were mis labeled or something. Thanks
  15. is this service available? I am flying American Airlines.
  16. Which food venues on Harmony are free or for a fee. I know the Windjammer and MDR are free, but what about the following? I'm going to guess; tell me if I guessed right: Sorrentos (free) Cafe Promenade (free) Johnny Rockets (fee) Sabor (fee) Starbucks (fee) Boardwalk Dog House (free) Vitality Cafe (free) Chops (fee) Park Cafe (free) Jamie's (fee) 150 Central Park (free) Wonderland (fee) Solarium Bistro (free) Mini Bites (free) Coastal Kitchen (fee) 🍷
  17. Hello all, I am new to the forum! We are taking our first cruise on Harmony of the Seas in Sept 2019. We are so excited!! We are bringing our 3 and 4 year olds both of them have autism. They are not toilet trained. Do you know if Adventure Ocean will make an exception? Can they still go in the infant pool or Splashaway bay wearing a swim diaper? Any cruise tips and advice on traveling with children of special needs would be so helpful and greatly appreciated! Also, this being our first cruise as a family, any tips you can offer on HOS would be very helpful for us well. Thank you Cruisers!!
  18. I know that no one can see the future with Covid 19, but assume that everything is back to normal, please. 1. Are the specialty dining venues open every night including our first night on the ship? 2. Is the Izumi Hibachi good for people who really like sushi? My boys love it, but I'm not a big fan. 3. What do you think of Wonderland? I am pretty intrigued by it. I am wondering if it will live up to my expectations or if it is a bust. 4. Where do you think the best place to eat is for a relaxing first night? 5. Are formal nights generally on sea days. We are doing a 7 night Western Caribbean with Perfect Day. 6. Is it better to eat in the Main Dining Room or a specialty restaurant on formal nights? 7. Which one is your favorite specialty restaurant for a family of 5 adults? 8. Do they do anything special for birthday celebrations?
  19. Harmony of the Seas – February 16 to February 23 – Semi Live Review I have always enjoyed reading the cruise reviews for their information and entertainment value. They also make the time between cruises a bit more bearable. I have done three post cruise reviews, but this will be my first attempt at a live review. In fact this is my first time with the internet on the ship, not sure how it will go but I will try my best to post in between enjoying the cruise. I’ll also try and answer anyone’s questions that they may have. I fancy myself as an amateur photographer so there will be lots of pics. We are a mid-60s couple, and I would describe ourselves as pretty easy to please and we are more inclined to roll with the flow. On our past cruises dining has been in the MDR, café promenade/compass deli and the windjammer in that order. The buffet would be my least favorite place to eat. We don’t spend a great deal of time in our cabin and the only thing I expect from our room steward is to make the bed, replace the towels and fill the ice bucket in the evenings. We enjoy listening to music and attending the various shows and lounging in the sun/hot tub during sea days. On port days, we like to do a bit of sightseeing. Background: We booked this cruise three days into our very first cruise on Oasis of the Seas in April 2018. I retired in November 2017 and after hearing about Royal Caribbean cruises from a co-worker I decided to finally take my DW on a cruise, something she had wanted to try for a long time. To say that we fell in love with cruising is an understatement. In addition to this cruise we have three others booked. Harmony is our fourth cruise, with Oasis, Grandeur and Majesty being number 1, 2 and 3. All have been great experiences. We have an ocean view balcony, and first seating Traditional Dining. We are not foodies and the MDR and other included venues have been fine with us in the past. The only specialty dining we have experienced so far was Chops Brunch on Grandeur of the Seas and we were not that impressed with that one. But because we wanted to experience Wonderland, I purchased the three night dining package for this cruise, when it went on sale for $99pp. Our plans are to eat at Chops, Wonderland and 150 Central Park. We were also lucky enough to get the great UBP glitch of 2019, so there will be no problem breaking even on this cruise. I have the digital photo package so we will be jumping in front of a ship’s photographer as much as I can. At the last minute, we purchased The Key as prices went down, so I will try to do a somewhat live review this time. The Plan: We started taking ballroom dance lessons this past September and hope to find opportunities to dance the night away. The pre-cruise events starts off with a formal Sweetheart Dance on February 14 put on by our local dance studio. With only a few hours of sleep we fly from DC to Orlando Saturday Morning. So here is our itinerary for this cruise. Pre-Cruise Day -2: Final packing and attending the Sweetheart Formal Dance. Pre-Cruise Day -1: Flight to Orlando, spend the day checking out Disney Springs and/or Universal City Walk before checking into Country Inn & Suites by Radisson. Cruise Day 1: Kraken Lava Flow, specialty dinner reservations and then Chops lunch in the MDR. Cruise Day 2: Coco Cay-this is our second time at Coco Cay, but the first time at Perfect Day. Plans are for a relaxing beach day with time in the pool, beach and exploring the island taking photographs. Cruise Day 3: Sea Day-this is a do nothing but enjoy the ship day. Cruise Day 4: Puerto Costa Maya-this is our second time here. On our first visit we took a Royal excursion to the Mayan ruins at Kohunlich and Dizbanche, this time the plans are to explore the port and visit the Aviary. Cruise Day 5: Roatan, Honduras- we will be doing the adults only Sol y Mar Beach Club. Cruise Day 6: Cozumel, Mexico-this will be our third time here, previously we did the Mayan Ruins at San Gervasio and Chocolate Factory Tour and explored downtown San Miguel. This time we have Trikes Cozumel reserved for a tour around the island, followed by some time downtown before heading back to the ship. Cruise Day 7: Final Sea Day-hoping to enjoy the ship and drink our sorrows away as this cruise comes to an end. Cruise Day 8: Will be dragged off the ship kicking and screaming, once the shock wears off we’ll be off to explore Cocoa Beach area. DW does not like rushing off the ship to the airport so we will spend another night in Florida before heading home. Post-Cruise Day: It’s back to the cruel cold winter with a flight from MCO to IAD.
  20. Anyone know anything at all about Harmony for Nov 7, 2021? There's no roll call, it doesn't show up on RCI's site and when I google it I get nothing, I thought maybe a charter, but it doesn't show up in a search. Oct 31 and Nov 14 are both showing up. If we need to change our Nov 2020 b2b, we wanted to book for Nov 2021, but not over/near Thanksgiving. Anyone?
  21. Has anyone been to the Thermal Suite on Harmony? Was it crowded? Any information would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
  22. We cruise during the summer months out of habit, when our DD traveled with us and we worked around her schedule. Last year we sailed in May and it was quite reasonable on the Allure. So, this year we have two cruises booked, August and November, both on Harmony. I cannot believe how the cost our August cruise has really dropped. Lowest I have ever gotten for an Oasis class sailing in the summer (GS). Now mind you I am only watching the price on these two sailings, the November cruise started out high then low in cost (booked a CLS), probably because it was off season, dunno for sure. But I wonder if RCI is trying to get us to take the lower price and then when they decide to cancel this sailing give less in FCC. Now I know we do not read minds, but sometimes I wonder if it is too good to be true. Has anyone else noticed the cost of their sailing in upcoming months cost less than usual? Thanks Stay healthy.
  23. What's the pecking order as far as reservations, who gets priority? I assume it' s start with the Royal Suite and goes down from there but what is the order? Are there tables for 2 in Coastal Kitchen? Any Pictures to share of it on Harmony? Can you order lunch and dinner in your cabin? Are the menu's for the suite in the cabin?
  24. Could someone help me out with which way the doors open in the bank of interior room at the front of the ship on Harmony on decks 7 through 11? Specifically, do any rooms open towards the balcony rooms on each side of the ship? We usually book ourselves a balcony cabin and the kids an interior right across the hall, so want to make sure the interior cabin doors open up towards our door and the kids don't have to go down the hall and around the corner to get to our room. Thanks in advance!
  25. Couple of things what is the WOW bands that I have heard about? Are they available on the Harmony?
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