Celebrity Gratuity Program - or not?


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#1
Adelaide, South Australia
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Hi All

Must confess that the whole tipping thing does my head in. Being an Australian and not being used it as I'm sure my friends over the pond are, it just seems like an extra charge that should have been part of the cruise cost. To Celebrity's benefit however you can opt out and elect to tip just those folks you want to, in addition to 18% on all beverages, mini bar purchases, spa and salon services.

I'd much rather take that option and reward those people who stand out and provide exceptional service.

Question is - am I being unreasonable?

Regards
#2
22 Posts
Joined Oct 2017
Originally posted by jzjcwg
Hi All



Must confess that the whole tipping thing does my head in. Being an Australian and not being used it as I'm sure my friends over the pond are, it just seems like an extra charge that should have been part of the cruise cost. To Celebrity's benefit however you can opt out and elect to tip just those folks you want to, in addition to 18% on all beverages, mini bar purchases, spa and salon services.



I'd much rather take that option and reward those people who stand out and provide exceptional service.



Question is - am I being unreasonable?



Regards


If you are booking a Celebrity Cruise in Australia the gratuities are included in your cruise fare so it’s a bit of a non-issue. You can’t opt out


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#3
Adelaide, South Australia
109 Posts
Joined May 2017
Originally posted by Brisgal1290
If you are booking a Celebrity Cruise in Australia the gratuities are included in your cruise fare so it’s a bit of a non-issue. You can’t opt out


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Thanks for tip, I'll check with my travel agent

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#4
Canberra Australia
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Joined Apr 2012
Originally posted by jzjcwg
Thanks for tip, I'll check with my travel agent

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The Gratuities should be included for any sailing out of Sydney or Auckland. If you are cruising elsewhere however, they will be added on as a daily charge or you can opt to pre pay or have them removed for you to pay personally and sometimes you can even get them paid as one of the chosen perks .
#5
Pepsicola FL
11,228 Posts
Joined Feb 2006
Originally posted by jzjcwg
Hi All

Must confess that the whole tipping thing does my head in. Being an Australian and not being used it as I'm sure my friends over the pond are, it just seems like an extra charge that should have been part of the cruise cost. To Celebrity's benefit however you can opt out and elect to tip just those folks you want to, in addition to 18% on all beverages, mini bar purchases, spa and salon services.

I'd much rather take that option and reward those people who stand out and provide exceptional service.

Question is - am I being unreasonable?



Regards

simply, yes.

the daily gratuity covers people that you do not interact with yet still provide you with direct services. feel free to offer a token extra ON TOP OF the daily surcharge to those you feel have gone above and beyond. 'when in Rome' and all that.

the fee covers your stateroom attendant and your dining, regardless of where on board you eat( in 'included' venues, not specialty dining or anything that incurs a surcharge). it is a fee that is simply listed separately and should be considered part of the total cruise cost.
#7
Fredericksburg, va. USA
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Joined May 2001
Taxes and port fees are "listed" separately, too (if you look at the breakdown!)....but it's ALL part of the cost of cruising.
#8
Coastal GA USA
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Originally posted by jzjcwg
Fair enough, still don't understand why they just don't include it in the cruise cost though.

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Cruise line explanation has to do with the income tax structure in the countries of origin of the crew. For many of the countries, if it was included in the fare, it would be considered salary and the crew member would have to pay income tax on it. However, as a gratuity the do not pay income tax on it (or maybe avoid declaring it). EM
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#9
Pepsicola FL
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Originally posted by jzjcwg
Fair enough, still don't understand why they just don't include it in the cruise cost though.

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cuz they don't. Land based hotels don't either.. with taxes and fees adding as much as 25-30% on top of the advertised price. its just how the industry operates.
#10
Minnesota
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Originally posted by jzjcwg
Fair enough, still don't understand why they just don't include it in the cruise cost though.

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This is an income tax situation....if the gratuity were part of the cruise cost, then it would be counted as income to the cruise company. By listing it as gratuity, it is turned over to the staff and the staff claims/pays any income tax on it if applicable.
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#11
Coastal GA USA
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Originally posted by rccampbell
This is an income tax situation....if the gratuity were part of the cruise cost, then it would be counted as income to the cruise company. By listing it as gratuity, it is turned over to the staff and the staff claims/pays any income tax on it if applicable.
I don't think this is quite right, but it leads me to word my explanation a bit differently. The crew are paid a 'modest' stipend on which they pay income tax in their home country. If the gratuities were included in the cruise fare, they would be disbursed to the crew as pay, and they would be taxed on it. But if they receive the money as a gratuity from the passengers, it is taxed/reported/treated differently and they get to send home more money. EM
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Carnival Glory 8/27/16
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Carnival Fascination 22 Feb 2016 Bahamas
MSC Divina 11/20-23/2013 Bahamas
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Celebrity Infinity 16 April 2013 B2B San Diego to Harwich
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Millennium B2B2B 2/6-20/2012 Caribbean
Caribbean Princess 10/29/2011 Caribbean Islander NY to FLL
Celebrity Solstice 5/1/2011 FLL to Barcelona
Carnival Fascination 2/28/11 Bahamas
QM 2 12/8/2010 Caribbean Delights
Celebrity Summit 10/24/10 B2B NY to San Juan
Emerald Princess 8/29/10 Western Caribbean
Diamond Princess 5/29/10 B2B Alaska
Westerdam 2/7/10 Eastern & Southern Caribbean
Carnival Dream 10/27/09 Transatlantic
Carnival Sensation 6/18/09 Bahamas
Carnival Splendor 5/17/09 B2B Mexi-not to Canada
Oosterdam 2/28/09 San Diego to Rome 32 nights
Carnival Fascination 12/13/08 Bahamas
QE 2 7/31/08 Lands of Fire and Ice
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Norwegian Spirit 10/20/07 CTN
Elation 4/23/07 B2B Bahamas
Zenith 8/2006 Bermuda
Calypso 7/2005 Greek Isles
Star Princess Inaugural 2/2002 Pacific Rim Singapore to LA 26 nights
Millennium 8/2000 Baltic
Fantasy 6/1999 Bahamas
Royal Princess 1/1999 Buenos Aires to Manaus
Home Lines Oceanic x 2 1973 NYC to Nassau 7 nights
Homes Lines Homeric x2 Eastern Caribbean 1972 10 nights
#14
Preston UK
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Originally posted by cb at sea
Taxes and port fees are "listed" separately, too (if you look at the breakdown!)....but it's ALL part of the cost of cruising.
They are not" listed" separately in the UK for cruises in the UK or anywhere.
Maybe that is the same in AU.

OP is cruising in Europe - Italy and Greece
#15
Preston UK
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Joined Nov 2014
Originally posted by spookwife
'when in Rome' and all that.
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He is in Rome??

"In Rome, waiters / taxi drivers are getting spoiled with foreigners leaving tips and are now often expecting them. But you don't need to tip in Italy"
#16
Adelaide, South Australia
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Joined May 2017
Originally posted by Aulanis
They are not" listed" separately in the UK for cruises in the UK or anywhere.
Maybe that is the same in AU.

OP is cruising in Europe - Italy and Greece
Not sure about cruises out of Australia but tipping generally is rare and only done for exceptional service.

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#17
Canberra Australia
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Originally posted by jzjcwg
Mediterranean, out of Rome.

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No worries, in that case the gratuities will not be automatically included in the fare, you can choose to pre pay them or have them added as a daily charge on your cruise. You can also opt to remove them and pay out the gratuities to the staff personally (which is then pooled) as will not meet all the people who would normally get a benefit from the auto gratuity. They may be an opportunity to have picked the gratuity as a perk but if you are already booked that may not be the case.
In any case, it is your choice how you deal with it.
#18
Canberra Australia
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Originally posted by jzjcwg
Not sure about cruises out of Australia but tipping generally is rare and only done for exceptional service.

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As mentioned, the gratuities are included in the fare for Australian cruises. And yes, you can still tip extra fro extraordinary service.
#19
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Originally posted by MicCanberra
No worries, in that case the gratuities will not be automatically included in the fare, you can choose to pre pay them or have them added as a daily charge on your cruise. You can also opt to remove them and pay out the gratuities to the staff personally (which is then pooled) as will not meet all the people who would normally get a benefit from the auto gratuity. They may be an opportunity to have picked the gratuity as a perk but if you are already booked that may not be the case.
In any case, it is your choice how you deal with it.


I am doing the same cruise out of Rome and the Celebrity fare from my Australian travel agent includes the gratuities. So confusing!


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#20
Canberra Australia
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Originally posted by Brisgal1290
I am doing the same cruise out of Rome and the Celebrity fare from my Australian travel agent includes the gratuities. So confusing!


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For overseas cruises, perhaps you got them included as part of the fare due to the deal they were offering, sometimes they include them automatically and sometimes it is as a perk.