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Originally posted by Selbourne
So, we have established that there is a North South divide in beer prices, just as there is with salaries, property prices and rental levels. The two are clearly linked as these cost factors will help determine prices at a local level.

The reality, though, is that P&O will not base their prices on the cheapest areas of the UK. Why would they? That would be daft.

A simple Google search uncovered the following recent article on UK average pub prices for a pint, which shows £3.05 for bitter (£3.58 for lager), with average prices of £4.20 in London and £4.40 in Surrey. As these are average prices, there will be as many places charging more as there are places that charge less.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-3-first-time/

As I have said before, cruise ships aren’t pubs. They are floating hotels, so comparisons with pubs are probably unfair anyway. Hotels and restaurants would be a fairer comparison.

So, I guess all this tells us is that if you live in one of the least expensive areas of the UK, P&O prices will always seem steep and most other cruise operators drinks prices will seem eye watering. And those who live in more expensive areas will continue to consider their prices to be reasonable compared to what we have to pay locally, even in pubs. Keep in mind that P&O operates from Southampton, after all, which is about as far South as you can get!

Finally, it’s good that P&O publishes all their drinks prices online as there are no surprises. As it’s a free market, we can all decide whether or not we are prepared to pay them and, if not, we can holiday elsewhere. I do, however, fully accept that the recent tightening of walk on allowances is a surprise for those who consider this to be important and had already made bookings.

And, as for John Smiths Smooth, I wouldn’t drink that stuff if they gave it away free of charge! I find the choice of beers on P&O ships to be excellent and I really like the fact that the waiters will (mostly) happily find me a ‘room temperature’ bottle, which is a godsend for those of us who feel that it should be illegal to serve bitter and ales chilled!
Great post all points covered excellently.
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[quote=Selbourne;54585436]


The reality, though, is that P&O will not base their prices on the cheapest areas of the UK. Why would they? That would be daft.


As I have said before, cruise ships aren’t pubs. They are floating hotels, so comparisons with pubs are probably unfair anyway. Hotels and restaurants would be a fairer comparison.

I guess all this tells us is that if you live in one of the least expensive areas of the UK, P&O prices will always seem steep and most other cruise operators drinks prices will seem eye watering.

Finally, it’s good that P&O publishes all their drinks prices online as there are no surprises. As it’s a free market, we can all decide whether or not we are prepared to pay them and, if not, we can holiday elsewhere.

And, as for John Smiths Smooth, I wouldn’t drink that stuff if they gave it away free of charge!
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Excellent post Selbourne !

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What a very good post. Might it possibly be the final one in this comprehensive but now exhausted thread?
I agree but these threads don't work like that unless someone "The Padlock Keeper " comes along
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Originally posted by Selbourne
So, we have established that there is a North South divide in beer prices, just as there is with salaries, property prices and rental levels. The two are clearly linked as these cost factors will help determine prices at a local level.



The reality, though, is that P&O will not base their prices on the cheapest areas of the UK. Why would they? That would be daft.



A simple Google search uncovered the following recent article on UK average pub prices for a pint, which shows £3.05 for bitter (£3.58 for lager), with average prices of £4.20 in London and £4.40 in Surrey. As these are average prices, there will be as many places charging more as there are places that charge less.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-3-first-time/



As I have said before, cruise ships aren’t pubs. They are floating hotels, so comparisons with pubs are probably unfair anyway. Hotels and restaurants would be a fairer comparison.



So, I guess all this tells us is that if you live in one of the least expensive areas of the UK, P&O prices will always seem steep and most other cruise operators drinks prices will seem eye watering. And those who live in more expensive areas will continue to consider their prices to be reasonable compared to what we have to pay locally, even in pubs. Keep in mind that P&O operates from Southampton, after all, which is about as far South as you can get!



Finally, it’s good that P&O publishes all their drinks prices online as there are no surprises. As it’s a free market, we can all decide whether or not we are prepared to pay them and, if not, we can holiday elsewhere. I do, however, fully accept that the recent tightening of walk on allowances is a surprise for those who consider this to be important and had already made bookings.



And, as for John Smiths Smooth, I wouldn’t drink that stuff if they gave it away free of charge! I find the choice of beers on P&O ships to be excellent and I really like the fact that the waiters will (mostly) happily find me a ‘room temperature’ bottle, which is a godsend for those of us who feel that it should be illegal to serve bitter and ales chilled!


Excellent post, well thought out and perfectly put together. Covers areas that we tend to forget, or ignore.


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Originally posted by Selbourne
I find the choice of beers on P&O ships to be excellent and I really like the fact that the waiters will (mostly) happily find me a ‘room temperature’ bottle, which is a godsend for those of us who feel that it should be illegal to serve bitter and ales chilled!
Now that I do agree with.

Does anyone know why on earth P&O consider it acceptable to chill beer to death?

Is it the influence of their parent company who is demonstrating that Americans have no idea when it comes to beer?
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Originally posted by insanemagnet
Now that I do agree with.

Does anyone know why on earth P&O consider it acceptable to chill beer to death?

Is it the influence of their parent company who is demonstrating that Americans have no idea when it comes to beer?
I don't believe that any cruise line will serve cask conditioned beer, which needs to be served at cellar temperature which I doubt exist in a cruise ship bar. Most beers will be served pressurised from kegs and the recommended way to serve these is chilled.
All this talk reminds me of a joke from the 80's, I believe, "I don't mind these Camra guys trying to improve beer quality, but ever since they came on the scene you cannot find a decent pint of Watneys Red Barrel anywhere".
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Originally posted by Selbourne
A simple Google search uncovered the following recent article on UK average pub prices for a pint, which shows £3.05 for bitter (£3.58 for lager), with average prices of £4.20 in London and £4.40 in Surrey. As these are average prices, there will be as many places charging more as there are places that charge less.
Not fair !! - I live in Surrey
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Originally posted by terrierjohn
I don't believe that any cruise line will serve cask conditioned beer, which needs to be served at cellar temperature which I doubt exist in a cruise ship bar. Most beers will be served pressurised from kegs and the recommended way to serve these is chilled.
All this talk reminds me of a joke from the 80's, I believe, "I don't mind these Camra guys trying to improve beer quality, but ever since they came on the scene you cannot find a decent pint of Watneys Red Barrel anywhere".
Cask-conditioned beer will not work on a cruise ship for two main reasons. The motion of the ship will make it difficult to settle the barrels and the relatively short lifespan of 'real ale' will make logistics difficult.


P&O's bottled beers are a pretty good bunch (Tanglefoot etc.) IMHO.
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Originally posted by terrierjohn
I don't believe that any cruise line will serve cask conditioned beer, which needs to be served at cellar temperature which I doubt exist in a cruise ship bar.
It was the bottled beer that is served far too cold.


Originally posted by SteveH2508
P&O's bottled beers are a pretty good bunch (Tanglefoot etc.) IMHO.
They have a reasonable selection, but they are all chilled to death.

2–4°C: Mass market light lagers.
4–7°C: Czech and German Pilsners, Munich Helles, wheat beers, and Kölsch.
7–10°C) IPAs, American pale ales, porters, and most stouts.
10–13°C: Belgian ales, sour ales, Bocks, English bitters and milds, Scottish ales.

Unfortunately P&O seem to keep everything at the lowest temperature of 2-4°C.
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Originally posted by insanemagnet
It was the bottled beer that is served far too cold.




They have a reasonable selection, but they are all chilled to death.

2–4°C: Mass market light lagers.
4–7°C: Czech and German Pilsners, Munich Helles, wheat beers, and Kölsch.
7–10°C) IPAs, American pale ales, porters, and most stouts.
10–13°C: Belgian ales, sour ales, Bocks, English bitters and milds, Scottish ales.

Unfortunately P&O seem to keep everything at the lowest temperature of 2-4°C.
Order one before you have finished the previous one and let it warm up a bit - easier to warm it up than cool it down.
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I order 2, one cold and one hot and mix them in the glass
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Originally posted by SteveH2508
Order one before you have finished the previous one and let it warm up a bit - easier to warm it up than cool it down.
Better still order two bottles of Old Speckled Hen at the same time.
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I just ask for one that hasn’t been chilled. Only once has it ever been a problem.
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Originally posted by Selbourne
I just ask for one that hasn’t been chilled. Only once has it ever been a problem.
Good idea and i will do that on our next P&O cruise.
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Originally posted by grapau27
Good idea and i will do that on our next P&O cruise.
It’s always worked for me. If those of us who like beer at correct temperature keep asking for it, the sooner they will realise that many prefer it at room temperature and stock the bar accordingly.
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I live in the south and I can get a decent pint of ale for £2 .

People comparing P &0 to a 4 star hotel - fair play but most people can walk out of a 4 star hotel to get a drink. The assumption that people in a 4 star hotel drink in the bar for 2 weeks is hilarious - hotel bars are usually empty for a reason

P&O charge £4 for a can....yes a can, delivered on a black tie night by a waitress with a glass....it looks a bit naff all dressed up to the eyeballs pouring your can into the glass but hey ho.

So we can take 2 one litre bottles of spirits, yet only two bottles of wine ....

Something tells me this rash decision (probably dreamt up by an American) will go down like a lead balloon. I had the full intention of booking a Caribbean cruise but they can shove it up their windpipe.
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Originally posted by bingo queen
Princess DO NOT allow any alcohol to be taken on board at the start of your cruise or when coming back on board at each stop.
Princess permit 1 bottle of wine per person to be brought on board at embarkation only, not at ports enroute.

But often that policy is relaxed as I have found out on my 18 Princess cruises, the last being in November last year.
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I am surprised no one else has yet posted about the latest news. I have today received an email about "important changes" to my booking on Brittania next October. It states from 1.2.18 on embarkation passengers are allowed to take 1 bottle of alcohol upto a 1litre limit, also passengers are not allowed to consume any alcohol purchased in any port whilst on board. From 1.1.18 they are also going to stop fancy dress and inappropriate clothing with names/slogans on. Not being big drinkers this doesn't bother us I'm just pleased they aren't changing our dates as this was my main concern when first seeing the important changes heading.
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Originally posted by Bartswife
I am surprised no one else has yet posted about the latest news. I have today received an email about "important changes" to my booking on Brittania next October. It states from 1.2.18 on embarkation passengers are allowed to take 1 bottle of alcohol upto a 1litre limit, also passengers are not allowed to consume any alcohol purchased in any port whilst on board. From 1.1.18 they are also going to stop fancy dress and inappropriate clothing with names/slogans on. Not being big drinkers this doesn't bother us I'm just pleased they aren't changing our dates as this was my main concern when first seeing the important changes heading.


I also just got an email with that header and was panicked it had been changed or cancelled!
People have posted on the other changes but that thread was closed by the host as this thread was going!


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Hi Bartswife..... Yes, see the previous 22 pages for posts on this topic The email that you - and I - received today is just confirming what has been doing the rounds for some time. I think they are making a point of making sure we have all been notiified.
Sadly their very reasonable policy has been abused and we are now being brought in line with most other lines. Fred Olsen however do not allow any alcohol being brought on board.
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The email is not very clear though. As of 1 February 2018, guests can only bring on board a single bottle of
alcohol (up to 1litre in size) as they embark the ship for the first time only.
And alcohol bought at ports along the way cannot be consumed while on board.

IS this 1 bottle per person or 1 per booking.

Think it will be a bottle of wine for the wife and a bottle of vodka and a bottle of pepsi max for me :-)

How do they intend managing this anyway? If you check in multiple bags and take on hand luggage
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