Make it more fun


Unregistered, just back from your Cunard cruise? Get published on Cruise Critic; Write a Review!
Cunard Line

Read hundreds of Cunard Cruise Reviews from cruisers like you.

See posts about:
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
All times are GMT -4.
The time now is 03:50 AM.
#41
Bury, UK
34 Posts
Joined Oct 2012
My wife and I took our first cruise 25 years ago to celebrate our silver wedding anniversary. Before the cruise we decided to take a few dance lessons. 25 years on and we are still dancing. It's the best thing we ever did as a couple. This year it's our 50th and we've booked another Cunard cruise because we love the large ballrooms. We understand that we have to share the dance floor with other couples better or worse than us, but 25 years of dancing has taught us the skills of floorcraft and hopefully we can dance around other couples. We don't find cruise ship dance floors any different to our local ballrooms where there are always dancers of different skill levels. I hope we don't frighten anyone off the dance floor on our next cruise.
#42
Pennsylvania
6,522 Posts
Joined Jul 2010
Originally posted by axelskater
How interesting. We just sailed HAL in what we thought would be a comparable category minus the special dining, but found it quite bad.
Aside from an apparently deliberate scheme to induce crippling boredom on an itinerary's last sea day (when they schmooze high-star Mariner members) we've found HAL to be a good value (but we don't gage cruises by their ballroom dancing, on the other hand).
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature


Past:
Queen Mary 2: 8 cruises
Queen Victoria: 2 cruises

ms Amsterdam: 1 cruise
ms Eurodam: 1 cruise
Caribbean Princess: 1 cruise
Carnival Pride: 1 cruise
#43
Mississauga, Canada
1,517 Posts
Joined Oct 2000
Originally posted by BostonSusie
... Holland America beat out Cunard in cruise ship ratings this year and I can well understand why! As H. A. sails to Europe from Florida I am unable to sail with them. Too bad for me!
When I first read this about Holland America beating Cunard in cruise ship ratings I was surprised. But after thinking about it I realised it shouldn't surprise me. HAL has five times more ships than Cunard has and therefore they have many times more loyalists. We are friends with three couples who are regulars on HAL. Two of the couples have not cruised with anyone else because they assume HAL is the best.

A few years ago we cruised to Alaska on HAL's Noordam just two years after we had a Norway cruise on the Queen Elizabeth. Despite the similarities in the two Vista-class ships, the QE was a considerably better ship. To be sure, HAL did some things quite well, but not much. Regarding the comments I have read on here about "terrible food" and "the worst food at sea" on Cunard, I had to smile. We are Diamond level members on Cunard and have not once had a terrible meal in any of the four main restaurants. Some of the meals we had on HAL were terrible. Food quality is usually subjective, of course, but as one example: if short ribs of beef are described as tender and they resemble shoe leather then that is a different matter. Even the lunch for members of the loyalty programme (called "Mariners" on HAL) was poor.

Two positive points: the Noordam had real teak decks as opposed to the fake stuff on the QE; those in Neptune Suites (similar to Queen's Grill) received complimentary laundry service. That was about all.

There were many aspects of the Noordam, that left negative impressions, other than the food. The atrium was basically a hole cut in the deck with a single curved glass staircase - a far cry from the vast lobby of the QE. Getting a decent cup of tea was nearly impossible. Knowing that HAL ships are really American (despite the port of registry) I brought our own tea-bags but getting boiling - or even very hot - water was difficult. Afternoon tea in the dining room was a joke: I have never seen such small scones.


Suite passengers were invited to a reception with the captain and officers. Not a single officer showed up. We did, however, have a pep-talk from the manager of the shops and the tour director. The drinks were generous, however, so it wasn't a total loss. Whereas Cunard offers a full range of entertainment to cater to all tastes, the only entertainment on the Noordam that was not over-amplified pop or blues was the violin/piano duo. As for talks, the Noordam had a few presentations about shopping and the only alternative was the park warden who came on at Glacier Bay and gave an interesting talk about glaciers. The equivalent of the Commodore Club was frequently closed for a private group function.


HAL has a strict policy on bringing alcohol on board. We brought our permitted two bottles of Champagne and at security we were directed to a desk like naughty school-children. After a few minutes in the queue our bottles were examined carefully and the person in charge held them up to the light to make sure we had not opened them and replaced the bubbly with some contraband like gin. Then we had to sign a form and stickers were placed on the bottles.


Formal nights on the Noordam were shabby compared to Cunard, so we were not surprised that they have since been downgraded to "gala nights". I am told by the regulars that means anything goes. I could go on, but what's the point.


The fact that HAL gets better ratings than Cunard convinces me that ratings are irrelevant.
#44
Pennsylvania
6,522 Posts
Joined Jul 2010
Originally posted by david,Mississauga
. We are Diamond level members on Cunard and have not once had a terrible meal in any of the four main restaurants.
Well, the lobster tail on our first (Cunard) cruise was of a quality that out me off cruise ship lobster tails for a few years. We did realize that the menus on Eurodam last week were leaving us saying "Well, OK , but that's it?" however.
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature


Past:
Queen Mary 2: 8 cruises
Queen Victoria: 2 cruises

ms Amsterdam: 1 cruise
ms Eurodam: 1 cruise
Caribbean Princess: 1 cruise
Carnival Pride: 1 cruise
#45
Toronto, Ontario
440 Posts
Joined Jul 2003
Thank you david.Mississauga. I live near you!

Humans are herd animals, and most huddle inside the bell curve, so are easily manipulated.

I was a loyalist to Celebrity until 2015 when we had a few bad cruises (conforms to the timeline when Celebrity was maximizing their downgrading) that did not conform to the Celebrity marketing hype, specifically I did an audit of what I got relative to what their marketing said I would get. Celebrity failed twice.

So moved on to Cunard and Oceania and HAL.

We found that Oceania fits us to a tee. When Oceania tries to downgrade their product, they will also be fired.

People, experience other cruise lines, see what works for you.
#46
Vale of Glamorgan
4,745 Posts
Joined Aug 2007
Please don't assume that those of us who enjoy sailing on Cunard haven't tried other cruise lines.
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
Email - [email protected]

If contacting me via email, please include your Cruise Critic user name and be patient, I do not have full time access to this mailbox and I am in a different time zone to many of you !
#47
lancaster,pa.usa
559 Posts
Joined Aug 2002
Originally posted by BostonSusie
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Sue/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif[/IMG]

Dear Cunard and QM 2 Administration,
Alright, I’m willing to put up with the worst food on the high seas ( even Royal Caribbean is Soooooo much better)- An upper deck buffet area that always smells like old fish! And is designed by someone who does not eat there-nothing where it should be in relation to dietary norms: bread and rolls nowhere near the cold cuts or cheese, no butter anywhere near where you would use it-no cutlery handy anyplace, loud ice cream machines that sound like a 747 taking off in the dining area! (Have you gotten them fixed yet?) etc. etc.
What I really regret is that there are no romantic little dance areas set aside in any of the cocktail lounges where a couple could have a romantic dance before or after dinner-
The Queen’s Ballroom couples look and act like contestants or rejects from America’s Got Talent (or not!). All these fancy-schmancy show-offs are very off-putting, intimidating and don’t leave much room or atmosphere for an anniversary or birthday couple to “slow dance’ and cop a little hug or squeeze.
PLEASE, couldn’t you set aside that 10’ x10’ piece of floor that nobody needs for a little dance space near the music in the Carinthia, or Lions’ Den, etc., or in the main central area! These places are seldom so crowded that it would not accommodate such an improvement.
EASY FIX- very romantic and fun and would be greatly appreciated! I have heard other passengers mention the same issues. Sailing on QM 2 should be a higher-classed experience when in reality it is a poorly planned tribulation. Sincerely, Susan
You are so right!! hit the nail on the head!
#48
84 Posts
Joined Aug 2012
I understand completely about the fancy schmancydancers, but also relate to Host Hattie’scomment about people who have gone to the trouble of learning to dance. We have been dancing for about fifteen years,and we enjoy taking classes and sharing a hobby we can do together. Most weekends find us ‘social dancing’ at alocal studio with dancers of varying levels and occasionally we, and othercouples in our classes, take part in ashowcase or exhibition of dancing which is when we get to do the ‘fancyschmancy’ stuff. We assumed that dancing in the Queens Roomwould be akin to social dancing but were surprised to see that there was a minority of dancers who didseem to dominate the floor. I’m nottalking about intricate step patterns, but couples doing arm styling that cleareda large area around them as other dancers tried to avoid the flailing limbs,progressive fast spins in a crowded area and (I thought this one was rather brave), a lift! Justbecause you CAN do something does not always mean that you SHOULD.

During a crossing last year we found a couple dancing in thehallway just outside the Queens Room doors. We asked why they didn’t just go inside and they replied that whiledancing another couple had made a rude remark about them being ‘in the way’ sothey felt they had to leave the floor. Nomatter what your level of expertise – or even no expertise at all – there is roomon the ballroom floor for everyone to enjoy dancing as long as we all show someconsideration.

OP – sorry I can’t offer anything as regards a more intimateplace for a slow dance. However, did youever think about going up to deck 12 near the Boardwalk Café? There’s a hugearea, with a wood floor, perfect for dancing under the stars. Ok, it involves one of you humming a song andit may not work in January in high seas, but it’s worth a thought.

I hope you dance!
#50
2,360 Posts
Joined Apr 2005
Originally posted by Host Hattie
Please don't assume that those of us who enjoy sailing on Cunard haven't tried other cruise lines.

lol I'm trying one right now and believe me...Cunard ain't all that bad!
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
2016 World Cruise Blog http://exitviathegiftshop.blogspot.co.nz/?view=magazine
2017 World Cruise Blog http://butarewethereyet.blogspot.co.nz
the more polished general cruise bloghttp://roscoesseafever.blogspot.co.nz
QE2 2002 Tahiti - Auckland
QM2 2004 Southhampton - New York
QE2 2006 New York - Panama - Los Angeles
QV 2008 Singapore - Southampton
QV 2010 Singapore - Southampton
QE 2011 Auckland
Pacific Pearl 2011 South Pacific Cruise
QV 2011 Venice to Rome
QV 2011 Rome to Rome
QE 2012 San Francisco - Sydney
QM2 2013 Auckland - Africa - Southampton
QV 2014 Rio to Sydney
L'Austral 2015 Auckland
QV 2015 Auckland
QV 2016 Southampton - Southampton Full World
QV 2017 Valparaiso to San Francisco
Explorer of the Seas 2018 Sydney to Sydney
QE 2019 Japan to Alaska
QV 2019 San Francisco to Sydney
#51
Queensland, Australia
520 Posts
Joined Jan 2012
BostonSusie - takes courage to have an opinion that isn’t the same as the majority. (I should know )
Just off QM2 - there are yards of space for romantic dance floors - but suggest adding more; not the done thing old girl 🧐 just saying.
Never went to the Queens Room - the rehearsal in there one morning frightened the heck out of me
Don’t get me started on women wearing pants on formal nights ......
🤫
Brave lady - having your say, I applaud you



Sent from my iPad using Forums
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
Rhapsody of the Seas - NZ 2008
ms Zaandam - Asia 2010
Jewel of the Seas - Baltics 2011
Rhapsody of the Seas - South Pacific 2012
Silver Shadow - Alaska 2013
Voyager of the Seas - South Pacific 2013
MSC Orchestra - Gallipoli 2015 Cruise
Celebrity Solstice - NZ Dec 2015
Carnival Spirit - March 2016
ms Koningsdam - Norse Legends - July 2016
P&O Pacific Aria - October 30 2016
Ovation of the Seas - NZ - Dec 2016
Golden Princess - PNG & Sth Pacific - Sep 2017
Diamond Princess - Tasmania - Dec 2017
Cunard QM2 - NZ - Feb 2018
Pacific Eden - Sea Break - Wine n Food - May 2018
Queen Victoria - Southampton to San Francisco - Jan 2019



#52
Kansas City
522 Posts
Joined Nov 2012
Originally posted by amias
During a crossing last year we found a couple dancing in thehallway just outside the Queens Room doors. We asked why they didn’t just go inside and they replied that whiledancing another couple had made a rude remark about them being ‘in the way’ sothey felt they had to leave the floor. Nomatter what your level of expertise – or even no expertise at all – there is roomon the ballroom floor for everyone to enjoy dancing as long as we all show some consideration.
This sounds like an example of someone not knowing basic ballroom etiquette regarding WHERE to dance on a ballroom dance floor. If someone is dancing a stationary "spot" dance in an outside (moving) dance lane, they are blocking the path for other dancers. If spot dancers were to move to the center of the floor, no one will say anything to them and everyone on the floor can enjoy their dancing experience.
#53
Queensland, Australia
520 Posts
Joined Jan 2012
Originally posted by BobBranst
This sounds like an example of someone not knowing basic ballroom etiquette regarding WHERE to dance on a ballroom dance floor. If someone is dancing a stationary "spot" dance in an outside (moving) dance lane, they are blocking the path for other dancers. If spot dancers were to move to the center of the floor, no one will say anything to them and everyone on the floor can enjoy their dancing experience.

just like the formal wear! Where is the dance code?


Sent from my iPad using Forums
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
Rhapsody of the Seas - NZ 2008
ms Zaandam - Asia 2010
Jewel of the Seas - Baltics 2011
Rhapsody of the Seas - South Pacific 2012
Silver Shadow - Alaska 2013
Voyager of the Seas - South Pacific 2013
MSC Orchestra - Gallipoli 2015 Cruise
Celebrity Solstice - NZ Dec 2015
Carnival Spirit - March 2016
ms Koningsdam - Norse Legends - July 2016
P&O Pacific Aria - October 30 2016
Ovation of the Seas - NZ - Dec 2016
Golden Princess - PNG & Sth Pacific - Sep 2017
Diamond Princess - Tasmania - Dec 2017
Cunard QM2 - NZ - Feb 2018
Pacific Eden - Sea Break - Wine n Food - May 2018
Queen Victoria - Southampton to San Francisco - Jan 2019



#54
Kansas City
522 Posts
Joined Nov 2012
Originally posted by Porky55
just like the formal wear! Where is the dance code?
No - not like formal wear.

Dance floor etiquette is pretty much the same in most countries around the world regardless of whether you dance the International Style or the American Smooth Style ballroom dance. Here is one and Here is another one of many you can find by simply googling "ballroom etiquette". It's mostly just a matter of being courteous to your fellow dancers.
#55
Queensland, Australia
520 Posts
Joined Jan 2012
Originally posted by BobBranst
No - not like formal wear.



Dance floor etiquette is pretty much the same in most countries around the world regardless of whether you dance the International Style or the American Smooth Style ballroom dance. Here is one and Here is another one of many you can find by simply googling "ballroom etiquette". It's mostly just a matter of being courteous to your fellow dancers.


Thankyou BobBranst - happy dancing


Sent from my iPad using Forums
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
Rhapsody of the Seas - NZ 2008
ms Zaandam - Asia 2010
Jewel of the Seas - Baltics 2011
Rhapsody of the Seas - South Pacific 2012
Silver Shadow - Alaska 2013
Voyager of the Seas - South Pacific 2013
MSC Orchestra - Gallipoli 2015 Cruise
Celebrity Solstice - NZ Dec 2015
Carnival Spirit - March 2016
ms Koningsdam - Norse Legends - July 2016
P&O Pacific Aria - October 30 2016
Ovation of the Seas - NZ - Dec 2016
Golden Princess - PNG & Sth Pacific - Sep 2017
Diamond Princess - Tasmania - Dec 2017
Cunard QM2 - NZ - Feb 2018
Pacific Eden - Sea Break - Wine n Food - May 2018
Queen Victoria - Southampton to San Francisco - Jan 2019



#56
SE Queensland, Australia
5,506 Posts
Joined Oct 2007
Originally posted by amias
We assumed that dancing in the Queens Roomwould be akin to social dancing but were surprised to see that there was a minority of dancers who didseem to dominate the floor. I’m nottalking about intricate step patterns, but couples doing arm styling that cleareda large area around them as other dancers tried to avoid the flailing limbs,progressive fast spins in a crowded area and (I thought this one was rather brave), a lift! Justbecause you CAN do something does not always mean that you SHOULD.
These are the types that I characterised in another post as "showoffs"!!!!! Dancing style suited only to larger ballrooms occupied by fellow competitive dancers - NOT the crowded small dance floors on a moving ship.
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
A Blog of our unusual "World Cruise" - Brisbane to Brisbane, Australia - 12 weeks on two different P&O ships, Oriana and Arcadia - with a White Christmas in-between....UK 2010

A review of our 28 day cruise to Tahiti on Pacific Pearl.... Pacific Pearl to Tahiti

Pics of our "3 Queens" cruise with Cunard--May/Jun 2012...Plane, Cunard and train to Germany

Pics of our 14 nights on Voyager of the Seas -- to NZ...On a BIG ship to NZ

A report of the inaugural cruise by Pacific Dawn to Papua New Guinea ports...Pacific Dawn to PNG

Ships sailed on since 2007

P&O Pacific Star
P&O Pacific Sun x 2
P&O Pacific Dawn x 3
P&O Pacific Pearl
P&O Pacific Aria
P&O Oriana
P&O Arcadia
Cunard Queen Victoria x 2
Cunard Queen Elizabeth x 3
Cunard Queen Mary 2 x 3
RCCL Voyager of the Seas
RCCL Radiance of the Seas
Carnival Spirit
Sea Princess
Sun Princess
NCL Pride of America
#57
Pennsylvania
6,522 Posts
Joined Jul 2010
Originally posted by BobBranst
No - not like formal wear.

Dance floor etiquette is pretty much the same in most countries around the world regardless of whether you dance the International Style or the American Smooth Style ballroom dance. Here is one and Here is another one of many you can find by simply googling "ballroom etiquette". It's mostly just a matter of being courteous to your fellow dancers.
You seem to lament others' ignorance or disregard of "dance floor etiquette" but you cite two forms of ballroom dance as your evidence that it should be understood. That would be like me saying "I enjoy both kinds of music. Country and Western." (Old joke, but I think it illustrates my point.) Not all who seek to dance are familiar with ballroom. Insisting that it should be otherwise could be one reason people sometimes consider Cunard to be elitist.

I don't think anyone's trying to begrudge ballroom dancers the Queens Room for ballroom dancing but a statement that one must be versed in ballroom dance etiquette to venture onto the Queens Room dance floor underscores the comment in the OP, that there should be other venues available for what the OP calls "romantic dancing."
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature


Past:
Queen Mary 2: 8 cruises
Queen Victoria: 2 cruises

ms Amsterdam: 1 cruise
ms Eurodam: 1 cruise
Caribbean Princess: 1 cruise
Carnival Pride: 1 cruise
#58
Kansas City
522 Posts
Joined Nov 2012
While the QM2 Queens Room dance floor may be small by Country Hoedown standards, the vast majority of dancers find it's 25' x 43' (1,075 sq ft) floor quite adequate for all types and styles of ballroom dance, regardless of sea conditions. It is extremely popular and usually quite crowded during the formal "Balls". However, if you come in later in the evening, you can usually find plent of space. On non-formal nights there is usually plenty of room for everyone to do their best Cha Cha and latin moves. Ask the band leader or the DJ to play a slow "romantic" song and the center of the floor is yours (and of course others who might wish to join you) to dance as you please.

Why lament about not having another dance floor that doesn't and probably never will exist, when there is a beautiful ballroom floor availble to use. You just have to come when the floor is not at it's busiest and go to the center of the floor.
#59
Pennsylvania
6,522 Posts
Joined Jul 2010
Originally posted by BobBranst
by Country Hoedown standards,
Seriously?!?
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature


Past:
Queen Mary 2: 8 cruises
Queen Victoria: 2 cruises

ms Amsterdam: 1 cruise
ms Eurodam: 1 cruise
Caribbean Princess: 1 cruise
Carnival Pride: 1 cruise