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#41
South Florida & Shenandoah Valley, VA
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Originally posted by jp2017tr
How disruptive is a boat swap?
We were on a Uniworld Budapest to Amsterdam cruise during the extreme heat and drought of August 2015 when the water level of the Danube dropped so low that a number of cruises were cancelled or ship swaps were initiated. I do remember that another Uniworld cruise on the same itinerary was cancelled that week because it was on one of their new super ships and there wasn't a sister ship coming in the other direction to use for the swap. We were lucky that our cruise was on their most popular style ship. We were notified 2 days before our cruise that we would be bused from our excursion at Melk Abby to Regensberg (about a 4 hour drive) and each of us would receive a $1000 future cruise credit. On the morning of the swap we just packed up our suitcases and left them in our cabin. That evening they were waiting for us on the new ship (same cabin). After touring the Abby we were taken to a very nice restaurant for lunch and then put on comfortable tour busses complete with guides who shared lots of information on the area we were driving through. Then when we were were bussed from Regensberg to our excursions in Passau the next day and given 20 euros each for lunch and then returned to Regensberg for another night before continuing our journey. The river was so low that a barge went aground and all traffic was stopped for a day or so -- we saw it first hand from our tour bus.
#42
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Joined Feb 2017
It sounds like you were satisfied with the changes needed to finish the trip?

We have any upcoming trip towards the end of July and certainly can't predict the weather. But we also have insurance to cancel and receive 75% of the cost for any reason. I guess we'd need to think in terms of whether it would still be 75% good

It is a short 9 day / 7 night cruise.

Thank you


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#43
Fairview Texas
303 Posts
Joined Oct 2007
Originally posted by nreeder
The following is a "copy and paste" from the Viking River Cruises website:

DANUBE RIVER

Due to low water levels on the Danube River, we anticipate the following sailings may be affected:
  • June 24th Romantic Danube aboard Viking Gullveig
  • June 25th Romantic Danube aboard Viking Atla
  • June 25th Romantic Danube aboard Viking Jarl
  • June 29th Grand European Tour aboard Viking Embla
  • June 29th Passage to Eastern Europe aboard Viking Aegir
  • June 30th Grand European Tour aboard Viking Ve
  • June 30th Grand European Tour aboard Viking Gefjon
  • July 1st Grand European Tour aboard Viking Bragi
  • July 1st Grand European Tour aboard Viking Skadi

It doesn't really say "how" these cruises may be affected, but I assume ship swaps or something similar.

Norm
We were scheduled to cruise from Amsterdam to Budapest on June 30th on the Viking Gejfon. We have received an email stating that we will now be leaving Amsterdam on the Viking Ve this Friday. The Gefjon cannot get through in the Passau/Regensburg area thus the reason for the ship change. They also state that a "SHIP SWAP" may be needed at some point along the way. Oh well, it makes for an exciting if not somewhat unsettling adventure.
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#44
Washington State
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We are on the Viking Modi, leaving tonight on the Grand European Tour. So far we haven't heard anything about low water. It rained here in Amsterdam last night.
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#45
South Florida & Shenandoah Valley, VA
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Originally posted by jp2017tr
It sounds like you were satisfied with the changes needed to finish the trip?

We have any upcoming trip towards the end of July and certainly can't predict the weather. But we also have insurance to cancel and receive 75% of the cost for any reason. I guess we'd need to think in terms of whether it would still be 75% good

It is a short 9 day / 7 night cruise.

Thank you


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We were more than satisfied with the ship swap; in fact we did another 15 days on Uniworld (the Seine and the Rhone) the following year without any problems -- we were one week ahead of the flooding in central France. We would have been very disappointed if we had been on one of the cancelled cruises but if there is no ship to swap with the cruise lines don't have a choice.
#47
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Scenic Crystal has today swapped with Scenic Jade. Our captain on Scenic Jewel is convinced we will get through keep your fingers crossed! A combination of being off ship and leaving or starting excursions sooner or later, will keep you up dated everyone still upbeat. Wonderful sunset this evening. Keep cruising. CA
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#48
Washington
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Joined Feb 2013
Originally posted by nreeder
We are in Budapest and it's still 80 degrees each day (has been for almost a week). We leave tonight. No one has announced anything about water levels. Our ship just returned from Amsterdam without incident from what I can tell. We may see rain as we leave Vienna in a few days according to Weather Channel

Norm
Hi Norm,
My wife and I would like to read the a short comment on you recent river cruise. We will be going to our first river cruise with Viking on August 25 to Sept 1 from Nuremberg to Budapest and take the trans-Atlantic cruise back from Berlin to NYC on Regal Princess after the Viking cruise. We happens to live in Torrance too.
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#49
Torrance, CA
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Reply to above, but short as it's slightly off topic from "water levels"

We had a wonderful trip. Ship was very comfortable and relaxed in décor which we wanted. There are some lines that specialize in fancy décor, and are more inclusive, but we didn't want that. Crew was wonderful especially the cruise director (David from England).

Learned a lot of history and saw lots of churches both Gothic and Baroque. Tours were seamless from the ship. Food and wine were great too (we had Silver Spirits package so could choose any wine off the wine list not just the default wines poured with each meal).

We are going to do China with Viking in 2019.

Norm
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#50
Montreal QC CA
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Joined Jan 2010
Originally posted by RDC1
We made it through without problem.
We are on Gate1 Monarch Empress.
Hi, we are leaving onJuly 24 from Budapest onthe same ship Monarch Empress , hope water level will be ok !

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#51
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Joined Jul 2017
We have just completed our first "river cruise" with Viking. There wasn't much cruising at all owing to the low level of the Danube. We left Nuremberg and sailed to Regensburg and not much more than 24 hours later (after you can cancel if the cruise is not right for you) we were told we were staying another night in Regensburg then ultimately being bussed to Linz from where we continued having swapped ships to Vienna then to Budapest. I know the river levels are down to nature but surely such a professional and experienced company would have known about them? If we had been told we would miss the Wachau valley we would have cancelled and gone at a later date. As it is we feel let down, not by the river levels but by the lack of communication from Viking. It doesn't look like much is getting to do the whole Danube so beware as the levels are still low- check with your operator whether you will be cruising or on the bus!
#52
Plantation, FL
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Joined Mar 2002
I'm sorry to hear about your lack of cruising. We also just finished the Danube from Nuremberg to Budapest but thankfully we made it all the way through on Uniworld as apparently their ships have flat bottoms. The only issue was we couldn't board in Nuremberg so we took a coach about 45 minutes to the next port and embarked there.

In Vikings defense, they did post about all the cruises that could possibly be affected by the water levels and also have it listed on their website, but I do understand how disappointed you must be!


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#54
Rhine, Germany
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Glamourpuss1000,

sorry to hear that. If you feel misinformed (river levels do change quite a bit at short notice) or informed too late you could raise this with Viking through their customer service. To give you some info - perhaps it helps - here is the water level for Regensburg of the last 30 days: https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/webse...nsicht=einzeln It is always shown for the last 30 days so it is best to download or copy the screen as soon as possible to keep the relevant dates.

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#56
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When we went through the stretch between Regensburg and Passau on the 19th of June, they said that at the shallowest point that there was only 40cm of water under the ship. This was on the Monarch Princess which has a draft of 1.7 meters (water depth 2.1 meters). Since a Viking long ship has a loaded draft of 2 meters they would have had only 10cm (about 4 inches).
#57
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Joined Feb 2017
Here's an interesting link that shows the current location of river ships, or search on a particular port to see the ships in the area. I was interested in the Gate 1 Monarch Queen. It appears that they are still being tracked by the previous names under AmaWaterWays before becoming part of Gate 1. The Monarch Queen was originally named the Amadagio.

this link is for the Monarch Queen - http://www.cruisemapper.com/AmaDagio...mmsi=211498130

and here's the map with all ships in the area of Budapest ( you may need to click on the map button in the middle of the page) - http://www.cruisemapper.com/ports/bu...t-4091#livemap

and Regensburg (click on map button mid-page) - http://www.cruisemapper.com/ports/regensburg-port-4006
#58
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Joined Dec 2010
Originally posted by RDC1
When we went through the stretch between Regensburg and Passau on the 19th of June, they said that at the shallowest point that there was only 40cm of water under the ship. This was on the Monarch Princess which has a draft of 1.7 meters (water depth 2.1 meters). Since a Viking long ship has a loaded draft of 2 meters they would have had only 10cm (about 4 inches).
Correction: intended to say Monarch Empress.
#60
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Joined Feb 2017
Originally posted by RDC1
Correction: intended to say Monarch Empress.


RDC1 -

I'm glad you were able to get through. How was your trip with Gate 1? If the water behaves we'll be on the Monarch Queen, which I believe is similar to the Empress but a couple years older.


Thank you