Noro on Ruby Princess

Do y'all know how many cases of Noro were on the 14-21 Oct sailing of the Ruby Princess? How do you find these reports? I'm asking because my family noticed a few sick people when getting me broth because I was sick.

I'm sorry to hear you were not feeling well. We were on that cruise and didn't see or hear of a large amount of people getting sick.

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Do y'all know how many cases of Noro were on the 14-21 Oct sailing of the Ruby Princess? How do you find these reports? I'm asking because my family noticed a few sick people when getting me broth because I was sick.

Have not seen a thread on this. I think cruise lines are required to report such cases if it reaches a certain percentage of the total number of guests and crew members onboard.

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Cruise lines are required to make a report of GI illnesses every cruise, whether there has been any GI illness or not. This report goes to the USPH/CDC for potential action, and must be made 24 hours prior to entering the first US port from a foreign port. If the number of GI cases reaches 2% of passengers and crew, the line is required to make a special report, at that time, to the USPH/CDC. Neither of these reports are made public. If the number of GI cases reaches 3% of passengers and crew, or there have been multiple weeks of 2% special reports, then the ship must submit a further special report to the USPH/CDC. This final report is what is posted on the CDC website as an "outbreak update".

You can see the update reports here:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwim68eGkofXAhVG9IMKHeBQBY8QFgg7MAc&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fnceh%2Fvsp%2Fsurv%2Fgilist.htm&usg=AOvVaw3hdC66xlSNPm4-xRYSnLp-

It may take a couple of weeks to get updated, I know (the last report is for a cruise ending 2 Oct).

So, unless the number of people on your cruise that were ill reached 3%, you have no way of knowing how many were ill.

Cruise lines are required to make a report of GI illnesses every cruise, whether there has been any GI illness or not. This report goes to the USPH/CDC for potential action, and must be made 24 hours prior to entering the first US port from a foreign port. If the number of GI cases reaches 2% of passengers and crew, the line is required to make a special report, at that time, to the USPH/CDC. Neither of these reports are made public. If the number of GI cases reaches 3% of passengers and crew, or there have been multiple weeks of 2% special reports, then the ship must submit a further special report to the USPH/CDC. This final report is what is posted on the CDC website as an "outbreak update".

 

You can see the update reports here:

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwim68eGkofXAhVG9IMKHeBQBY8QFgg7MAc&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fnceh%2Fvsp%2Fsurv%2Fgilist.htm&usg=AOvVaw3hdC66xlSNPm4-xRYSnLp-

 

It may take a couple of weeks to get updated, I know (the last report is for a cruise ending 2 Oct).

 

So, unless the number of people on your cruise that were ill reached 3%, you have no way of knowing how many were ill.

Thank you!

The best way to avoid Noro is to keep clean practices. Always wash your hands with soap and water (does not need to be hot water since Noro can survive up to ~150F). The sanitizer is good but not nearly as good as properly washing your hands correctly. Watch what you touch and keep your hands out of your mouth etc.

While on shore, do not drink the tap water and especially don't ask for ice which is made from their tap water. Only drink bottled water or water from the ship.

We have been on several ships where Noro has broken out and we did not get sick. One thing we do however is stay away from the HC and only eat food served to us by the staff (IC, grill, pizzeria, etc). Have a happy cruise. We board the Ruby in a little over a week.

I just looked at the published reports for this year so far. It lists 5 HAL cruises involving 3 ships. Princess only has one report involving the Coral on the 3/8-18 cruise. Remember the criteria for publishing a report by the CDC.

The best way to avoid Noro is to keep clean practices. Always wash your hands with soap and water (does not need to be hot water since Noro can survive up to ~150F). The sanitizer is good but not nearly as good as properly washing your hands correctly. Watch what you touch and keep your hands out of your mouth etc.

 

While on shore, do not drink the tap water and especially don't ask for ice which is made from their tap water. Only drink bottled water or water from the ship.

 

We have been on several ships where Noro has broken out and we did not get sick. One thing we do however is stay away from the HC and only eat food served to us by the staff (IC, grill, pizzeria, etc). Have a happy cruise. We board the Ruby in a little over a week.

I wash my hands and for longer and before dinner while traveling. If I couldn't wash my hands before eating, we used purell.

I didn't drink the tap water on shore or have ice. I didn't even put the lime in my beers since I'm not a big fan. My whole group all tried each other's food. I can't think of anything I ate that someone did not also taste.

I tried not to touch the elevator buttons or handrails but I did touch the chips in the casino. I think this is where I went wrong. I think I touched something that someone who was sick and didn't wash his/her hands well. Then I rubbed my eyes like I do a lot or touched my mouth. That's all it takes apparently. :(

I wash my hands and for longer and before dinner while traveling. If I couldn't wash my hands before eating, we used purell.

 

I didn't drink the tap water on shore or have ice. I didn't even put the lime in my beers since I'm not a big fan. My whole group all tried each other's food. I can't think of anything I ate that someone did not also taste.

 

I tried not to touch the elevator buttons or handrails but I did touch the chips in the casino. I think this is where I went wrong. I think I touched something that someone who was sick and didn't wash his/her hands well. Then I rubbed my eyes like I do a lot or touched my mouth. That's all it takes apparently. :(

Actually, you don't even need to rub your eyes or touch your mouth. If your hands have touched a contaminated surface, and then you eat something with your hands (burger, fries, pizza, hors d'oeuvres), then you've eaten the virus.

Was on the Ruby 10/14 to 10/21 and did not receive any Novò alerts .

If you didn't hear any hand hygiene or public bathroom announcements or see the tongs disappear in the buffet, salt and pepper shakers being handled by the waiters only in the MRD and the purell pushers out in full force, you will probably never know how many were sick as it didn't reach a reportable percentage.