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#41
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Recently P&O have seemed to have learnt there lesson regarding late price reductions and have offered some very good deals on brochure price which seem to never go lower. I know in Carol Marlow days it was a regular occurrence for brochure prices being high on release and some very serious price drops and not all late deals where you could nt choose your cabin or dinner sitting that was introduced at a later date. We had the benefits and losses on both we once paid for a 14nt cruise on Azura £499 and had a excellent positioned inside cabin. On the other hand we booked a balcony cabin on Arcadia in 2007 on brochure release and not long after they were offering suites at a lot lower price than we paid. It is swings and roundabouts and is a gamble that only you can take and decide.
#42
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Originally posted by Selbourne
Forgive me, but you have stated this elsewhere as if it is fact when, as now, it is just your theory. A very logical theory, yes, but not born out in fact.

Like DaiB, we have booked a number of cruises when they have been released. They have not all been suites. Every single one has never been cheaper than when we booked. Some have gone up by thousands of pounds. Yes, people can get bargains on Saver fares if they are prepared to be allocated the leftovers (which we aren’t), but there are quite a few of us on here who (perhaps foolishly) check prices very regularly and are all saying the same thing. And we are basing this on hard facts, not theories.

Your assertion that because prices change so frequently it is inevitable that, at some given time in the future, they are certain to be cheaper would hold more water if you could provide a concrete example of a Select price that has been sold at a cheaper price (allowing for the value of On Board Credit) a considerable time after release. I would actually like to be proved wrong as having to book so far in advance in order to get the cabins we want at the lowest prices is a pain.
I take your point entirely, but I'm basing my comments not on theory but hard fact. I'm not saying that prices will always drop after the first day, or even that they'll usually drop - simply that they can and do drop sometimes. But unless you check the price you paid on day one every hour of every day between booking and cruising you'll never know that, because these reduced prices never stick around for long. P&O rely on that to maintain the perception that prices on the first day never fall - it's a great cashflow booster for them.

The reason I use the word 'fact' is that the comments are based on personal experience over the last couple of years, and before that. I watch for specific suites on specific ships, Southampton to Southampton, at what I'd consider to be reasonable prices (I know that's a very subjective matter!). I start looking on day one, and if there's nothing which meets those criteria (which there wasn't for 2019) I keep on looking pretty regularly after that. Not always, but quite often, something comes up at a later point, as it did a few weeks back, which is at a lower price than the first day price. In that case I made the booking, and an equivalent suite is now almost £400pp more than the price I paid - it may well drop again though.

I do not book anything other than Select Price, and I don't do last-minute bookings. I like plenty of notice, I like Freedom Dining and I know exactly which suite I want. Possibly I've been very lucky, but it's worked in each of the last two years.

It's not a technique I can recommend to everyone, though - if your requirements are more specific than mine (and I'm reasonably flexible on destinations and dates) the only way to be sure of getting what you want is to book early, and you may well get the best price on day one. But you can't guarantee that.
#43
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Originally posted by AnOnymously
Not looking for late deals, just when is the best time to buy for 2019
Impossible to say - because prices move up and down so frequently that they're impossible to track. See above post for my recent 2019 experience. My price was lower than the first day price, and it's since increased - but I fully accept that it might go down again.
#44
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Originally posted by docco
I take your point entirely, but I'm basing my comments not on theory but hard fact. I'm not saying that prices will always drop after the first day, or even that they'll usually drop - simply that they can and do drop sometimes. But unless you check the price you paid on day one every hour of every day between booking and cruising you'll never know that, because these reduced prices never stick around for long. P&O rely on that to maintain the perception that prices on the first day never fall - it's a great cashflow booster for them.

The reason I use the word 'fact' is that the comments are based on personal experience over the last couple of years, and before that. I watch for specific suites on specific ships, Southampton to Southampton, at what I'd consider to be reasonable prices (I know that's a very subjective matter!). I start looking on day one, and if there's nothing which meets those criteria (which there wasn't for 2019) I keep on looking pretty regularly after that. Not always, but quite often, something comes up at a later point, as it did a few weeks back, which is at a lower price than the first day price. In that case I made the booking, and an equivalent suite is now almost £400pp more than the price I paid - it may well drop again though.

I do not book anything other than Select Price, and I don't do last-minute bookings. I like plenty of notice, I like Freedom Dining and I know exactly which suite I want. Possibly I've been very lucky, but it's worked in each of the last two years.

It's not a technique I can recommend to everyone, though - if your requirements are more specific than mine (and I'm reasonably flexible on destinations and dates) the only way to be sure of getting what you want is to book early, and you may well get the best price on day one. But you can't guarantee that.
It may be the way you have explained your example, but it still doesn’t sound as though it supports your core assertion. I get that a price may have gone up £400pp from when you booked (even if you booked recently), as that’s normal. And it may subsequently drop again. That’s also normal. But, are you saying that, even after allowing for such things as double on board credit that you can often secure at launch, you have a specific example of a cruise where the Select price dropped significantly after launch?

If so, it would be really helpful to provide the specific example and figures so that we can understand the detail - type of cruise, date etc. As terrierjohn has said, many of us on here are only really interested in Southampton to Southampton Cruises. I am aware that prices for Caribbean fly cruises are dropping due to the fall in demand following the various hurricanes (and, I suspect, associated drops in air fares).

Whilst none of us have the ability to check prices every hour of every day, it seems highly illogical, when the underlying trend is upwards, that prices suddenly drop to a level below launch price, only to increase again so quickly that none of us who watch these things carefully has ever noticed. Seems pointless for P&O to do that as it wouldn’t achieve anything as so few people would have seen it.
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#45
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When OBC increases it is usually linked to a price of the cabin going up. I still have not seen the price of any cruise cabin I have booked go down. I now look very regularly.

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#46
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Originally posted by Selbourne
It may be the way you have explained your example, but it still doesn’t sound as though it supports your core assertion. I get that a price may have gone up £400pp from when you booked (even if you booked recently), as that’s normal. And it may subsequently drop again. That’s also normal. But, are you saying that, even after allowing for such things as double on board credit that you can often secure at launch, you have a specific example of a cruise where the Select price dropped significantly after launch?

If so, it would be really helpful to provide the specific example and figures so that we can understand the detail - type of cruise, date etc. As terrierjohn has said, many of us on here are only really interested in Southampton to Southampton Cruises. I am aware that prices for Caribbean fly cruises are dropping due to the fall in demand following the various hurricanes (and, I suspect, associated drops in air fares).

Whilst none of us have the ability to check prices every hour of every day, it seems highly illogical, when the underlying trend is upwards, that prices suddenly drop to a level below launch price, only to increase again so quickly that none of us who watch these things carefully has ever noticed. Seems pointless for P&O to do that as it wouldn’t achieve anything as so few people would have seen it.
I am indeed saying that, and I'm talking specifically about my own purchases of Southampton-Southampton cruises, as outlined above. I've been quite specific about the parameters, but giving details of actual prices paid for actual cruises wouldn't help at all because the day one prices aren't now available. I simply know that the price and other parameters I set were not matched at that point (because the prices were too high) but were matched last month after a fall in one or more of the prices. It's risen since, but may fall again - that's dynamic pricing for you. It works for airlines and it works for cruise companies.

You may choose to think I'm making all this up, though quite why I have no idea. All I'm doing really, and it doesn't benefit me in any way (possibly the reverse, my wife tells me, if others follow the same course), is pointing out that day one booking isn't necessarily quite the bargain that P&O (and all the agents) make it out to be. It's very much in their interests to push this line, and if you're happy to go along with that, that's fine of course, but until they offer the sort of price guarantee that Saga, I believe, offer, I remain sceptical and my own experiences support that scepticism.

Now if they were to offer a Saga-like guarantee on day one bookings that they'd make a partial refund for any price drop, I'd book then like a shot!
#47
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Originally posted by docco
I am indeed saying that, and I'm talking specifically about my own purchases of Southampton-Southampton cruises, as outlined above. I've been quite specific about the parameters, but giving details of actual prices paid for actual cruises wouldn't help at all because the day one prices aren't now available. I simply know that the price and other parameters I set were not matched at that point (because the prices were too high) but were matched last month after a fall in one or more of the prices. It's risen since, but may fall again - that's dynamic pricing for you. It works for airlines and it works for cruise companies.

You may choose to think I'm making all this up, though quite why I have no idea. All I'm doing really, and it doesn't benefit me in any way (possibly the reverse, my wife tells me, if others follow the same course), is pointing out that day one booking isn't necessarily quite the bargain that P&O (and all the agents) make it out to be. It's very much in their interests to push this line, and if you're happy to go along with that, that's fine of course, but until they offer the sort of price guarantee that Saga, I believe, offer, I remain sceptical and my own experiences support that scepticism.

Now if they were to offer a Saga-like guarantee on day one bookings that they'd make a partial refund for any price drop, I'd book then like a shot!
I think we will have to agree to disagree! Unfortunately, nothing that you have said, or the partial example you have provided, has proved your point IMO. You are clearly convinced that because prices go up and down regularly it therefore must follow that, at some point, they will fall below the launch prices. But, by your own admission, you don’t have the launch prices. You are comparing the price on a given date (not at launch) against subsequent dates and, yes, that will show fluctuation. But that is not the issue we are discussing.

If what you do works for you that’s great. And, if you are convinced that your approach gets you the best deals then fantastic. I dislike having to book cruises at launch 2 years out but I know that, like many others on here, if I had relied on your theory I would be paying between £400 to £2,000 more for every single one of the future cruises we have booked. And that, I’m afraid, is a hard fact!
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#48
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Originally posted by Selbourne
I think we will have to agree to disagree! Unfortunately, nothing that you have said, or the partial example you have provided, has proved your point IMO. You are clearly convinced that because prices go up and down regularly it therefore must follow that, at some point, they will fall below the launch prices. But, by your own admission, you don’t have the launch prices. You are comparing the price on a given date (not at launch) against subsequent dates and, yes, that will show fluctuation. But that is not the issue we are discussing.

If what you do works for you that’s great. And, if you are convinced that your approach gets you the best deals then fantastic. I dislike having to book cruises at launch 2 years out but I know that, like many others on here, if I had relied on your theory I would be paying between £400 to £2,000 more for every single one of the future cruises we have booked. And that, I’m afraid, is a hard fact!
Agreed - we'll just have to disagree on this. You're still missing the central point, though, that my comparisons have always taken the launch price as the starting point, and that's exactly the issue we're discussing.

To be clear, on each occasion the price I paid was considerably less than the launch price, and on each occasion I only booked because the launch price had been too high but the price had fallen to a more reasonable level.

It's a myth that the price never falls below the launch price, largely because the cruise companies work hard to maintain the myth (though they won't offer any guarantees to back it up), but also because it's difficult for people who believe the myth ever to accept that they might not actually have paid the lowest price, and that it might just be possible for someone else to get a better deal. Such is life. I'll book on launch day when the price is right, but if it isn't I'll wait for a price drop.
#49
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My own experience over the last 3 or 4 years is that launch price taking into account the 5 or 10% reduction always available to Peninsular members is only guaranteed on launch day, and can be immediately subject to fluid price increases, as definitely occurred on our launch booking in September this year.
Then once this discount period ends the prices generally increase, although OBC can increase to compensate. Thereafter it becomes increasingly difficult to know whether the price is increasing or decreasing as regular fluid pricing takes over, unless of course you have your booking documents to refer back to.
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#50
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Originally posted by docco
Agreed - we'll just have to disagree on this. You're still missing the central point, though, that my comparisons have always taken the launch price as the starting point, and that's exactly the issue we're discussing.

To be clear, on each occasion the price I paid was considerably less than the launch price, and on each occasion I only booked because the launch price had been too high but the price had fallen to a more reasonable level.

It's a myth that the price never falls below the launch price, largely because the cruise companies work hard to maintain the myth (though they won't offer any guarantees to back it up), but also because it's difficult for people who believe the myth ever to accept that they might not actually have paid the lowest price, and that it might just be possible for someone else to get a better deal. Such is life. I'll book on launch day when the price is right, but if it isn't I'll wait for a price drop.
OK. Thanks for clarifying. I’m clearer now on what you are saying. I just wish that you had been able to evidence it with a real life example to help those of us who have found the opposite to be the case.

To be fair to P&O, as far as I am aware (and I’m happy to be corrected on this), they do not claim that their launch prices are the cheapest they will ever be or even imply that they will never be bettered.

So I certainly don’t book at launch because I’m suckered by anything P&O says or implies. It’s just that, like many other regular P&O cruisers, we have found that, in reality, the launch price has never been bettered afterwards.

To a degreee, it’s somewhat cosmetic for us as we have to book an accessible cabin, so have to book early as they go so quickly. But it’s nice to know that by booking at launch on our last 4 and next 5 P&O cruises we have paid around £10k less in total than if we had held off in anticipation of a price drop.

I appreciate that my recent experience of 9 out of 9 bookings (or daiB’s 15 out of 15) is a tiny sample in the scale of the number of bookings that P&O deals with, but it’s still 100% and until that success rate drops below 50% it’s clearly worth my while to stick with my current approach.
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This is quite an interesting discussion for me as I like to grab a bargain. I have noted though that suites often sell out quickly, therefore it is unlikely the price will drop. And if they do drop, it seems to be when there is late availability they are offered for a fee to those in balcony cabins. I have personal experience of this. In August I was booked into a balcony on Aurora to go to the fjords. 2 weeks before sailing there were at least 10 suites and mini suites left - I was watching out of curiosity to see what would happen. Then we were offered an upgrade to a suite for £250 which we took. The holiday cost us £1050 each. Yet the suites were still being advertised at over £2500 each. My conclusion is that if you really want a suite book early as you cannot guarantee getting one the way we did. Monitoring suite prices is in my view pretty pointless, but other grades, especially on larger ships such as Azura can often fall late on. I do dummy bookings to see how many cabins are left if I am looking for a late deal - lots of cabins generally means the price will drop. Currently I am looking at a Caribbean cruise in January. If the price drops in the next few weeks I will book it, if not I'll be on holiday somewhere else. And yes I do book a saver fare and so far I have never had a problem with the cabin allocated
BTW I booked very early on for one of the Middle East Cruises in 2019. So far the price has gone up, but hopefully it will not come down below what I paid. We shall see.
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#52
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Look at both Azura and Britannia for early December, prices have dropped thru the floor.
It is cheaper than a Virgin flight to Barbados and you get the 14 day cruise for FREE
#53
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Originally posted by jody75
Look at both Azura and Britannia for early December, prices have dropped thru the floor.
It is cheaper than a Virgin flight to Barbados and you get the 14 day cruise for FREE
Nov and early Dec in the Caribbean has always been the bargain price period, and if you are flexible about dates, UK airport and cabin location, then you can obtain some good bargains. If we still did fly cruises we would never consider booking early for this period.
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#54
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Apologies for not reading the whole thread. On our cruise in October to the Canaries on Britannia there were price drops. Also in November deals can sometimes be had. Generally price drops are less obvious and ships are filled via upgrades.


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Originally posted by terrierjohn
Nov and early Dec in the Caribbean has always been the bargain price period, and if you are flexible about dates, UK airport and cabin location, then you can obtain some good bargains. If we still did fly cruises we would never consider booking early for this period.


However the Cruises from Southampton in late November and early December are quite cheap also. But there is little price drop as the prices are low to start with. Clearly not a time of year when people want to cruise.


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Originally posted by jody75
Look at both Azura and Britannia for early December, prices have dropped thru the floor.
It is cheaper than a Virgin flight to Barbados and you get the 14 day cruise for FREE
I think the prices have dropped more than usual this year as quite a lot of people have cancelled due to the devastation in the Caribbean.
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Originally posted by daiB
However the Cruises from Southampton in late November and early December are quite cheap also. But there is little price drop as the prices are low to start with. Clearly not a time of year when people want to cruise.


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Not only 'cheap' but when we booked we got obc that amounted to almost 20% of the fare.
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Whitley Bay, North East England
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Joined Nov 2006
Originally posted by wowzz
Not only 'cheap' but when we booked we got obc that amounted to almost 20% of the fare.


When I first looked at a cruise in Dec. 18, you could get a suite for £55.00 less per night than the bottom price I have seen before with OBC as well. Certainly less than a balcony on some cruises. The price is now back up to what I would expect to pay.

But this time of year tends to be busy with ‘do’s’ for various groups we belong to. So it was always a non starter for us.


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#60
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Originally posted by majortom10
Canary Islands 12nts on Ventura at £599 is very good value.
It is. There are a couple of £699 Select Prices too for 12 night cruises on offer - inside, of course. I somehow doubt the opening day price was lower than this. Looks like P&O bookings aren't living up to expectations. Economic problems?