P&O the Walmart of Cruising

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#41
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Originally posted by Britboys
Couldn't agree more! I am someone who sails on a number of different lines but am still very happy to cruise with P&O as I feel they provide a good quality, good value product. Sadly, there seem to a few people around who see 'dissing' P&O as a sport or fun pastime.
I agree completely!

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#42
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Originally posted by PRINCESSTHE BEST
I agree completely!



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#43
Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
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Originally posted by majortom10
I could easily name the Purser or whatever they are called these days about her attitude to dress code but do not think it is right or proper to do so on here. But while I agree to the cost of football shirts and designer jeans they are still a football shirt and whatever the cost neither have a place in any restaurant on formal evenings.
Don't disagree with your sentiments at all - in fact I still think Jeans are inappropriate wear on any night aboard a ship but would never say anything as P&O have deemed they are acceptable. What I was conjecturing about in my earlier post was whether the Purser had not put her point across well and hence seemed to display a poor attitude? Think I have narrowed it down to one of two Pursers... .
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#44
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Originally posted by daiB
And as if to prove your point Andrew......


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And sometimes Dai, it is not even funny...
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#45
Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
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Originally posted by Solent Richard
Couldn't agree more Britboys.

And what really gets their goat is the fact that P&O have such a regular loyal following and, what's more to the point, cruise more often than the detractors.
Thank you Richard - and that means a lot coming from you, with your experience of cruising at all levels from budget to ultra-luxury!
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#46
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Originally posted by Britboys
Couldn't agree more! I am someone who sails on a number of different lines but am still very happy to cruise with P&O as I feel they provide a good quality, good value product. Sadly, there seem to a few people around who see 'dissing' P&O as a sport or fun pastime.
I totally agree with you. We are just back from an Azamara cruise and next year we shall be on Aurora and later next year another Azamara. 2 totally different products but both equally enjoyable in their own way. We always do our homework before we book a cruise and when asked which is our favourite ship our reply will be " the one that we are on at the time". I feel very lucky that I am able to enjoy such fabulous holidays - many people can only dream of such luxury.
#47
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Originally posted by artemis10
During a Peninsular lunch recently one of the guests at our table said that he thought P&O standards were dropping, the senior officer hosting our table replied that he thought P&O was heading towards being the Walmart of cruising, pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap! I think they are more likely to become the Ryanair of cruising.
The senior officer needs to get his Retail analogies correct. Stack them high and sell them cheap was a phrase made famous by Jack Cohen, the founder of Tesco. And, is P&O the Tesco of British based cruising? Probably
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#48
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Originally posted by grapau27
Asda are part of Walmart.
And P&O are owned by Carnival - but that doesn't mean P&O and Carnival are the same.
#49
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Originally posted by dsrdsrdsr
And P&O are owned by Carnival - but that doesn't mean P&O and Carnival are the same.
No but ASDA have to do what Walmart tell them, just like P&O are ruled by Carnival.
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#50
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Originally posted by terrierjohn
No but ASDA have to do what Walmart tell them, just like P&O are ruled by Carnival.
Good point. I wonder how much input Carnival put into the alcohol decision. Quite a lot I would imagine, as it was making their alcohol policy in their other lines look parsimonious.

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#51
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Originally posted by wowzz
Good point. I wonder how much input Carnival put into the alcohol decision. Quite a lot I would imagine, as it was making their alcohol policy in their other lines look parsimonious.

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Carnival Corp Bean Counters would have made the decision re alcohol policy. They want to sell more on board.
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#52
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Originally posted by grapau27
While in M&S outlet at Dalton Park Murton County Durham yesterday they had a selection of suits for £69.
At that price people have no excuse to not wear a suit on formal night.
And quite acceptable, about what I paid in Sydney for my cruise formal suit, colour - dark gray at Lowes, not as upmarket as your M&S though, about one cut above your Primark.

Only time I wear a suit these days, formal night on the ships.
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#54
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Originally posted by dsrdsrdsr
And P&O are owned by Carnival - but that doesn't mean P&O and Carnival are the same.
That implies P&O is a separate entity, but in its shareholder publications Carnival simply refers to P&O as a "brand".
#55
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Originally posted by NSWP
Carnival Corp Bean Counters would have made the decision re alcohol policy. They want to sell more on board.
The next cunning bean counter scheme will be to charge for tender transfers. £10 for one way and £20 return. That will increase the on board spend
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#56
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Originally posted by insanemagnet
That implies P&O is a separate entity, but in its shareholder publications Carnival simply refers to P&O as a "brand".
Indeed it is and my Carnival share dividends are in dollars. Which is probably why P&O are seeking cost cuts to offset the decrease in dollar revenue due to the fall in the value of the pound.
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#57
Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
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Originally posted by Selbourne
The senior officer needs to get his Retail analogies correct. Stack them high and sell them cheap was a phrase made famous by Jack Cohen, the founder of Tesco. And, is P&O the Tesco of British based cruising? Probably
With Thomson and CMV being British-based, I would suggest P&O are the M&S of our cruising, with maybe Thomson as Tesco and CMV as Lidl...
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#58
Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
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Originally posted by alanbab
I totally agree with you. We are just back from an Azamara cruise and next year we shall be on Aurora and later next year another Azamara. 2 totally different products but both equally enjoyable in their own way. We always do our homework before we book a cruise and when asked which is our favourite ship our reply will be " the one that we are on at the time". I feel very lucky that I am able to enjoy such fabulous holidays - many people can only dream of such luxury.
Great post - thanks. What I don't get is that people come on to the P&O forum to completely rubbish the product. Fine if that is what you think but then surely you will no longer cruise with them so why bother looking into a P&O forum. I suppose it is the same as the moaners pax meet on board at times who complain about everything but then trot off to the future-cruise desk!
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#59
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I challenge anyone to go onto YouTube search for "WALMARTIANS" and think these people remind me of P&O passengers.

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#60
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Originally posted by john watson
I challenge anyone to go onto YouTube search for "WALMARTIANS" and think these people remind me of P&O passengers.

Regards John
The actual Cruise Line was not evident to confirm the video/s as being P&O.
Therefore, please clarify the dress code; P&O Casual or Carnival Formal?
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