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Although I think it is a good idea to have your child know their way around, I would NEVER expect that my 10 year old would be able to sign herself out of camp carnival. I think that is way too young to be able to be alone.
C'mon people...we are talking about 3000 or so strangers! It may be a slim chance that anything could happen, but it certainly is possible! Personally, my daughter will not leave my sight. We will have a plan in place should she ever end up lost, but she wont be allowed to stroll around the ship alone.
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Originally posted by Zee777
Although I think it is a good idea to have your child know their way around, I would NEVER expect that my 10 year old would be able to sign herself out of camp carnival. I think that is way too young to be able to be alone. Well, that's the rule in Camp Carnival. Any parent who thinks the rule is silly...only needs to WAIVE the signout rule at the orientation when filling out the paperwork. Really...it's up to the parents.
C'mon people...we are talking about 3000 or so strangers! It may be a slim chance that anything could happen, but it certainly is possible! Personally, my daughter will not leave my sight. We will have a plan in place should she ever end up lost, but she wont be allowed to stroll around the ship alone.
You are obviously a responsible parent.....others aren't. Then when something happens, they blame everyone but themselves.
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Originally posted by Rowan555
Speaking I had forgotten about this situation until just now. On our cruise in January, my 8 year old got a very bad headache after being head-butted at camp during a game. She was miserable and the counselors wanted her to be signed out to take some ibuprofen and lie down. She couldn't sign herself out, and the staff had no way to contact us, so they asked my 9 year old son to sign out and go find us and ask us to get his sister. At that time, we had told him he was only to sign out for scavenger hunt activities and when we arrived to sign out his sister, and he understood this rule. We were sitting on the Promenade deck playing cards when he walked up, and I nearly yelled at him because he was not supposed to be wandering the ship, he was supposed to be in camp. He explained the situation, and I signed out his sister (and he signed himself back into camp). As G'ma pointed out earlier, it's a camp and activity program, not a babysitting service, and they don't want kids there who are sick. I had no problem with the way the staff handled the situation, but after reading this thread, I'm sure many parents would be livid if their 9 year old was told to sign out and search the ship for his or her parents!
Ok, that right there is not good....what if your hurt child didn't have a sibling in camp with them.

Doesn't CCL have some sort of set up to get in contact with a parent in case the need arises?????
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Originally posted by halos
Ok, that right there is not good....what if your hurt child didn't have a sibling in camp with them.

Doesn't CCL have some sort of set up to get in contact with a parent in case the need arises?????
They'll call the room, but who sits around in their room? Unless it's a dire emergency, they're not going to have you paged over the announcement system. It's just one of those things - I've gone to pick the kids up before and found out one of them felt sick, or wanted to leave, or something like that - and unless it's something very, very serious, they just have the kids wait it out. That's one good thing about the camp activities ending after 3 hours throughout the day - you can't leave them there TOO long without checking in on them and picking them up.
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I think if I had kids that I cruised with I'd invest in some good walkie talkies or pagers, that way they CAN get in touch with me if they need me.
Just saying.............
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Originally posted by Rowan555
They'll call the room, but who sits around in their room? Unless it's a dire emergency, they're not going to have you paged over the announcement system. It's just one of those things - I've gone to pick the kids up before and found out one of them felt sick, or wanted to leave, or something like that - and unless it's something very, very serious, they just have the kids wait it out. That's one good thing about the camp activities ending after 3 hours throughout the day - you can't leave them there TOO long without checking in on them and picking them up.
I just would hope that the person who is making the decision on what constitutes an emergency or what is 'very, very serious' is on the same page as the parents that leave their child there...

I'm glad my kids are adults. I have free time before they start having kids and I have Grandchildren to worry about

Originally posted by kyrisong1
I think if I had kids that I cruised with I'd invest in some good walkie talkies or pagers, that way they CAN get in touch with me if they need me.
Just saying.............
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That would be comforting...much better as a matter of fact. Rowan's experience just turned me off....I seriously don't find sending an older child off to find their prents cool. I know her kids are familiar with the ship and she is ok with it, which is fine. personally I wouldn't have liked that at all.
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Originally posted by halos
I'm glad my kids are adults. I have free time before they start having kids and I have Grandchildren to worry about
LOL! Me too.......because we are a family that cruises/travels together we already had a family meeting about no little ones to Vegas or cruising........I have no problem bringing them to a beach condo in Hawaii
Different strokes for different folks......
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Originally posted by halos
That would be comforting...much better as a matter of fact. Rowan's experience just turned me off....I seriously don't find sending an older child off to find their prents cool. I know her kids are familiar with the ship and she is ok with it, which is fine. personally I wouldn't have liked that at all.
At the time, I actually wasn't at all cool with it - in the end it worked out for the best, as my daughter had a huge knot on her forehead and almost had a black eye, and she really did need me to pick her up. So the ends justified the means, in that particular case. Had my son not been as familiar with the ship as he was, though, I would have been pretty irritated with the staff for sending my 9 year old on a wild goose chase to find us. What if they had sent a child who was not sure of his way around, and was prone to getting upset - then the parents would have had a lost and crying child who knows where wandering around the ship, AND an injured kid stuck in camp. That could have ended badly! As I said, it's just one more thing for parents to talk to their kids about, because it seems the list of "what ifs" is a bit longer than all of us realized when dealing with kids 9 and up at Camp Carnival!
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Originally posted by Rowan555
Imitrex does nothing for me, and Maxalt gives me rebound headaches from hell. I will have to try Zomig. My doctor moved to FL 2 years ago and I haven't gotten around to getting a new one yet. After spending 4 days in bed, I think it's time to find one.
It's funny how we all react to different things. I was fortunate in that I only had to try two meds. Zomig gives me rebound headaches from hell, but Imitrex is my wonder drug! I'm out though...need to go to the dr to get a new Rx.
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YOWZA!!! This thread has taken on a life of its own. Let me preface this my saying that I am a 35 year old that doesn't have any kids. Quite frankly, I don't think that I would want to raise a child in today's world--but that is a different topic.

I did teach for several years, so I am very aware of children having different needs, strengths, and weaknesses. I am also aware that there are many philosophies on how to best parent a child. Although I didn't agree with all of the parenting that I observed, I do know that virtually all parents are doing the absolute best they can to raise a healthy, productive, and smart human being.

I don't agree with everyone's opinions on this thread, but I do agree with their right to have the opinion.
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I read this site everyday and have never posted any comments until now. We have just returned from the May 31 sailing on the Carnival Valor. Our 9 year old granddaughter went with us on this cruise. Camp carnival let our granddaughter, who is 9 years old, check herself out. This was her first cruise. We did not know that they could check themselves out. She had lost her sign and sail card and was upset about this. We found her roaming around on deck 6, crying because she could not find our room. And even if she had found the room, she could not get in without her card.

When you leave a child , you expect them to be with the people you left them with, and that their safety and general welfare are being addressed.

Over 3000 people on this cruise and I do not let my 9 year old granddaughter roam the ship and I do not expect Carnival to let her either. My grand kids will not attend anymore Camp Carnival activies.

Carnival's policy needs to be re-thought.
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Originally posted by lido leon
I read this site everyday and have never posted any comments until now.
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Originally posted by caribbean dreams
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I read the site almost everyday and this subject hit home . So, I registered and made my first post.
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Thanks.

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Originally posted by PaulMedik
PACURN,

No flames from me. Just complete agreement.
Thanks Paul.
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Originally posted by lido leon
I read this site everyday and have never posted any comments until now. We have just returned from the May 31 sailing on the Carnival Valor. Our 9 year old granddaughter went with us on this cruise. Camp carnival let our granddaughter, who is 9 years old, check herself out. This was her first cruise. We did not know that they could check themselves out. She had lost her sign and sail card and was upset about this. We found her roaming around on deck 6, crying because she could not find our room. And even if she had found the room, she could not get in without her card.

When you leave a child , you expect them to be with the people you left them with, and that their safety and general welfare are being addressed.

Over 3000 people on this cruise and I do not let my 9 year old granddaughter roam the ship and I do not expect Carnival to let her either. My grand kids will not attend anymore Camp Carnival activies.

Carnival's policy needs to be re-thought.
When you register your 9-11 year old child for camp, you must check a box to allow them to sign themselves out. If you do not check this box, they cannot sign themselves out - period. Are you saying you did NOT check the box allowing her to sign herself out, yet the counselors allowed her to sign herself out? Moreover, did you inform your granddaughter that she was not allowed to sign herself out, yet she did so anyway? Sounds like quite the breakdown in communication all around...
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Originally posted by grneyedgirl
I am a 35 year old that doesn't have any kids. Quite frankly, I don't think that I would want to raise a child in today's world--but that is a different topic.
I just felt the need to reply to this. I have two kids - 8 and 9 year olds - and I love raising my children in today's world. Is it perfect? Of course not. But I'm able to experience something beautiful and wonderful with them each and every day, and I can't imagine life without them. Even with my migraine, lol, I love the world, and no matter how bad it gets, there's always beauty and love and wonder all around us, if we look in the right places.
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Originally posted by nealstuber
I think we pretty much agree. And - no it would not be a huge deal if they raised it. Most of the kids we see about on the ship weren't signed into camp in the first place (ours included). My interest in this topic is two-fold. 1) My kids will be even less inclined to use the camp if they feel they are being treated "like babies." 2) I don't like that Carnival (and the other lines) are being forced to make this "non-issue-issue" a prority. I'd rather see the kids camps focused on providing new an exciting things to do.

Just had a funny thought - my first cruise was in 2nd grade on the Statendam. Grandma and Grandpa took me to Bermuda and I remember making my way to the card room on the 1st sea day. Guess what we did - MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE! As has been beeten to death on another thread - that doesn't happen anymore because the nil envirnmental impact was taken out of context and given disproportionate importance by a few folks unable to see the big picture. I feel the same way about this topic (and the swine flu thing too).
How fun "Message in a Bottle" would be, but you are right about environmental thing. It could never happen.
I liked your comment about the "Nanny state". Funny.
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Originally posted by tedjazz
It's plain to see that this is one of those arguments that can not be resolved. Posters are firmly planted in two camps. 1) Parents wanting to protect their kids and 2) Parents who don't think anything will happen to their kids because they have prepared them on how to react to every possible situation they may come up against. Maybe it's time to let this thing die and hope that all turns out well for everyone who cruises with their kids. Oh and Good Luck.
Well I guess you would place me in Cat #2, but I must say that I Never said I don't think anything could happen to my kids. I just want them to be able to make good decisions if something does. Calmness enables someone to make better decisions.
As a nurse I have to be calm in the midst of chaos. If a patient stops breathing I need to be calm in order to think and direct people to do what needs to be done. Its a matter of life and death.
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