tiger belle Posted June 19, 2018 #1 Share Posted June 19, 2018 the unlimited beverage package on carnival cruises leaving out of ports in Texas and New York does not apply to the first day on board? you can still purchase drinks on boarding day but the unlimited beverage package doesn't work until the first day at sea...I am told this is not a Carnival rule but something to do with the laws in Texas and New York--anyone know what the legal obstruction is?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinqt Posted June 19, 2018 #2 Share Posted June 19, 2018 It must just be a Cheers thing. Because we’ve done bottomless bubbles out of Texas and it started the first day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasGuy75219 Posted June 19, 2018 #3 Share Posted June 19, 2018 In those states it's illegal to sell an unlimited or undetermined quantity of alcoholic drinks for a fixed price. Thus Cheers isn't sold until day 2, when the ship is in international waters. Sent from my SM-J727P using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBBaker Posted June 19, 2018 #4 Share Posted June 19, 2018 the unlimited beverage package on carnival cruises leaving out of ports in Texas and New York does not apply to the first day on board? you can still purchase drinks on boarding day but the unlimited beverage package doesn't work until the first day at sea...I am told this is not a Carnival rule but something to do with the laws in Texas and New York--anyone know what the legal obstruction is?:confused: This is all about the liquor laws in this states. You will pay outright for your drinks on Day 1, and your Cheers package starts on Day 2. No big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisin'4fun Posted June 19, 2018 #5 Share Posted June 19, 2018 You reach international waters after 12 nautical miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelonqueen99 Posted June 19, 2018 #6 Share Posted June 19, 2018 the unlimited beverage package on carnival cruises leaving out of ports in Texas and New York does not apply to the first day on board? you can still purchase drinks on boarding day but the unlimited beverage package doesn't work until the first day at sea...I am told this is not a Carnival rule but something to do with the laws in Texas and New York--anyone know what the legal obstruction is?:confused: Just note that Cheers is not "unlimited" when it comes to alcoholic drinks. You get 15 alcoholic drinks per day. You do however get unlimited bottled water, soda, milkshakes, specialty coffee, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted June 19, 2018 #7 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This is all about the liquor laws in this states. You will pay outright for your drinks on Day 1, and your Cheers package starts on Day 2. No big deal. So they don't charge you for day 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer Nerd Posted June 19, 2018 #8 Share Posted June 19, 2018 It must just be a Cheers thing. Because we’ve done bottomless bubbles out of Texas and it started the first day. No, it's a Texas thing and a New York thing. Bottomless bubbles is just soda. Texas and New York have laws forbidding alcohol "packages" so they have to wait until they are out of their waters to sale them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer Nerd Posted June 19, 2018 #9 Share Posted June 19, 2018 So they don't charge you for day 1? Correct. On a 7 night cruise out of Texas you will be charged only for 6 nights for Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyPiglet Posted June 19, 2018 #10 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I thought TX had some weird law regarding price/tax regarding alcohol sold in state (day one) that the cruise line had to follow. I had thought I heard that the prices for a-la-cart drinks were different also until the second day. I could be totally wrong, so please correct or clarify if I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABQrobin Posted June 19, 2018 #11 Share Posted June 19, 2018 They also have something weird about the beer being sold on ship the first day. My DH is always mad that the list of beers available on embarkation day is half what it is later. I don't know if that is Carnival, or if it is part of the Cheers issue... he doesn't do Cheers as I don't drink. Texas has some weird laws, regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted June 19, 2018 #12 Share Posted June 19, 2018 blame uncle sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcuchio24 Posted June 19, 2018 #13 Share Posted June 19, 2018 In those states it's illegal to sell an unlimited or undetermined quantity of alcoholic drinks for a fixed price. Thus Cheers isn't sold until day 2, when the ship is in international waters. Sent from my SM-J727P using Forums mobile app I have sailed multiple times out of NYC with NCL, unlimited drink package was available the moment you stepped on the ship.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winddawn Posted June 19, 2018 #14 Share Posted June 19, 2018 the unlimited beverage package on carnival cruises leaving out of ports in Texas and New York does not apply to the first day on board? you can still purchase drinks on boarding day but the unlimited beverage package doesn't work until the first day at sea...I am told this is not a Carnival rule but something to do with the laws in Texas and New York--anyone know what the legal obstruction is?:confused: This article explains it pretty well. https://www.cruzely.com/answered-first-day-drink-packages-and-alcohol-on-galveston-cruises/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Joe Posted June 19, 2018 #15 Share Posted June 19, 2018 blame uncle sam Any righteous Elvis fan will know "He's your uncle not your dad", and "He's the best friend you ever had"....LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasGuy75219 Posted June 19, 2018 #16 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I have sailed multiple times out of NYC with NCL, unlimited drink package was available the moment you stepped on the ship.... http://www.sla.ny.gov/unlimited-drink-specials: "The [New York] ABC Law prohibits from selling, serving, delivering or offering* to patrons an unlimited number of drinks during any set period of time for a fixed price. ... The statute also prohibits licensees from creating drink specials which, in the judgment of the Authority, are attempts to circumvent the law. This includes offerings of free drinks, or multiple drinks for free or for the price of a single drink, or for a low initial price followed by a price increment per hour or other period of time." Why NCL but not Carnival? Their interpretations of the law and risk tolerances for breaking the law vary. Sent from my SM-J727P using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof3cruisers Posted June 19, 2018 #17 Share Posted June 19, 2018 blame uncle sam Only if your uncle makes laws for just NY and TX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired_to_Cruise Posted June 19, 2018 #18 Share Posted June 19, 2018 the unlimited beverage package on carnival cruises leaving out of ports in Texas and New York does not apply to the first day on board? you can still purchase drinks on boarding day but the unlimited beverage package doesn't work until the first day at sea...I am told this is not a Carnival rule but something to do with the laws in Texas and New York--anyone know what the legal obstruction is?:confused: There are liquor laws in Texas that require that any liquor sold there has to have Texas taxes paid and a Texas liquor stamp on each bottle. The ships have to swap out the bar stocks to accommodate this requirement. There is are reduced number of liquor kinds and brands sold while the ships are in port to manage costs and work. They also have state officials in the terminals whose job is to collect state taxes on any liquor brought off the ships and into Texas. That is why people want to pack their buys in their checked luggage since it is easier to lie about it rather than be carrying it in a bag. I do not know if all of this is true for New York, but I am sure that some of it applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingViper Posted June 19, 2018 #19 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I wonder how recent the Texas law is. I remember lots of brunch places in Houston and Austin had "Bottomless Mimosas" back in the aughts. The distributor thing is such a stupid law. It's a relic of a long ago need that was questionable at best then and outright parasitic now, surviving only on inertia and campaign donations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donh44 Posted June 19, 2018 #20 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This article explains it pretty well. https://www.cruzely.com/answered-first-day-drink-packages-and-alcohol-on-galveston-cruises/ Very interesting. Thanks for posting that information. Doesn't apply to me but always like being informed. The old saying, "You learn something new every day". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth2 Posted June 19, 2018 #21 Share Posted June 19, 2018 If you order liquor from the Fun Shops it also won't be delivered to your cabin until the day after you sail. I think this may also be the case in Mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer Nerd Posted June 19, 2018 #22 Share Posted June 19, 2018 blame uncle sam Not a Federal Government issue (Uncle Sam). Blame Texas and New York. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shineonmesunshine Posted June 19, 2018 #23 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I wonder how recent the Texas law is. I remember lots of brunch places in Houston and Austin had "Bottomless Mimosas" back in the aughts. The TABC's and NYSLA's law excludes bottomless brunches and the like because they are considered "events". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingViper Posted June 19, 2018 #24 Share Posted June 19, 2018 The TABC's and NYSLA's law excludes bottomless brunches and the like because they are considered "events". oh, yes of course. those are totally different. Oh well, no one said govt laws were supposed to make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevv Posted June 19, 2018 #25 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This article explains it pretty well. https://www.cruzely.com/answered-first-day-drink-packages-and-alcohol-on-galveston-cruises/ From the article ... If you sail on Royal Caribbean (Liberty of the Seas), then you can use a drink package from the moment you step on the ship. There is no waiting period to start using the package. So it is a Carnival rule and not a Texas rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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