Do you use the stateroom safe?

Here is a tale of what can happen if you do not use a safe. This story is from a friend (A) who was travelling with another friend (B.) They were in a hotel and B would not use the safe. So she hid her credit cards. Of course she forgot where. They were checking out and travelling and she ended up having to cancel the cards. She had put them under the TV where the staff eventually found them, but too late.

Great story and why if there is a safe you should use it.

I bet most of us have hid things away at home and forgot where we hid them when we want them.

Yes we use the safe, mostly to get stuff out of the way that we won't be using all that much.

We always use the safe as we carry money for the casino. On the last night before going to bed I open it and leave it open just in case the lock batteries fail or if there is some other problem I don't want to have to deal with on the last morning.

And be kind and don't re-lock it when leaving. Last cruise it took us all day to get it unlocked as the crew is very busy that first day. It was empty.

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We use the safe and so far no problems. We put our excursion money, passports, etc in a Ziploc bag and in the safe it goes 😊

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As someone posted earlier ... Please leave your safe unlocked after removing your things the day you disembark.

It's so not fun for the next cabin guests having to wait around for security to come to unlock it for them because security is so very busy that day.

Been cruising since the 70’s and as soon as they started putting them in the cabins we have used them, my wife has about 75k In jewelry she takes on trips and we always use the room safe.

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Yes, we always use the safe - passports, cell phone (unlike many, we don't use it onboard), cash, jewelry, etc., plus a spare copy of all our emergency contact information (family, insurance phone #, credit card & bank numbers, etc.).

 

 

 

We once had a problem where we couldn't unlock the safe - we must have been off one digit when we entered our usual code. In order to get it opened, the purser's desk said they'd send security to our room. It turned out to be 2 employees - they said they were required to have 2 people when opening safes. It seems to me that the safes are only 'unsafe' if you forget to close them.

My experience as well...valuables safe as a church mouse!

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Great story and why if there is a safe you should use it. I bet most of us have hid things away at home and forgot where we hid them when we want them.

Been there, done that kind of thing with so many items over the years :o :rolleyes: .

I always use the ship's safe, but I don't always trust a land hotel's safe. If something feels "off" about the safe or the hotel, I just keep all of my important items with me.

Been there, done that kind of thing with so many items over the years :o :rolleyes: .

 

I always use the ship's safe, but I don't always trust a land hotel's safe. If something feels "off" about the safe or the hotel, I just keep all of my important items with me.

I have seen hotel notices relinquishing responsibility for valuables if you don't use the safe.

From this thread it seems I'm a big fool, but last cruise I left about $3500 in mostly cash and a few Casino chips in the nightstand. That's a lot compared to crew salaries. Previous cruises I also left some substantial money there. Credit cards are in my wallet. Passport is on the desk so I won't forget it. I fully trust crew and officers not to steal.

There are just a few people allowed to enter your room, with every access logged. Some of them have access your safe anyhow, because they need your passport when you are too late. There are cameras everywhere. Who, in their right mind, would have access to your room and would be willing to spoil their career not to mention judicial punishment?

I haven't seen anyone reporting theft from a room on these boards, not even on a blog by a certain ambulance chaser. Of course ships have safes because people expect them to be there, but I don't think they are solving a real problem.

From this thread it seems I'm a big fool, but last cruise I left about $3500 in mostly cash and a few Casino chips in the nightstand. That's a lot compared to crew salaries. Previous cruises I also left some substantial money there. Credit cards are in my wallet. Passport is on the desk so I won't forget it. I fully trust crew and officers not to steal.

 

There are just a few people allowed to enter your room, with every access logged. Some of them have access your safe anyhow, because they need your passport when you are too late. There are cameras everywhere. Who, in their right mind, would have access to your room and would be willing to spoil their career not to mention judicial punishment?

 

I haven't seen anyone reporting theft from a room on these boards, not even on a blog by a certain ambulance chaser. Of course ships have safes because people expect them to be there, but I don't think they are solving a real problem.

But seriously, if someone just lifted a few bills. How can you know, or prove it ever happened. Please just use the safe. It's there for a reason.

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It sounds like you travel light.lol

She needs to travel light, that way she has room to carry that chip on her shoulder. :rolleyes:

From this thread it seems I'm a big fool, but last cruise I left about $3500 in mostly cash and a few Casino chips in the nightstand. That's a lot compared to crew salaries. Previous cruises I also left some substantial money there. Credit cards are in my wallet. Passport is on the desk so I won't forget it. I fully trust crew and officers not to steal.

 

There are just a few people allowed to enter your room, with every access logged. Some of them have access your safe anyhow, because they need your passport when you are too late. There are cameras everywhere. Who, in their right mind, would have access to your room and would be willing to spoil their career not to mention judicial punishment?

 

I haven't seen anyone reporting theft from a room on these boards, not even on a blog by a certain ambulance chaser. Of course ships have safes because people expect them to be there, but I don't think they are solving a real problem.

Yes, more then 1000 days on cruise ships tells me that you are a fool (your word,,,not mine). Is your cabin steward trustworthy....probably yes. But there are the room service folks, the folks that stock the cabin drinks, some maintenance folks, etc. etc. As to access to the safe, it takes special equipment that is kept under the strict control of the pursers office. If it is necessary to open a safe (and we have had that happen) there are very few staff that have that ability and they are tightly controlled.

But why do we say you are a fool. Walk down a corridor in the daytime and you might find several cabin doors slightly ajar (often kept open by a rubber door stop) as the stewards do their work. It is possible for somebody to slip in and out of a cabin in a few seconds....and things do disappear. But here is the bigger problem. Say you have a few hundred/thousand dollars disappear from your nightstand. You report it to security and their question is, "why was it in your nightstand and not in your safe?" And why should they even believe you. Perhaps you are some crazy passenger trying to find an angle for some compensation....or perhaps to file an insurance claim.

You might think back to when a lady on a HAL ship was nearly beaten to death by a "junior room service attendant." That employee had little problem gaining access to the cabin (where he waited on the balcony to attack the passenger). My point has nothing to do with that very rare attack...but to show that many staff members do have access to your cabin.....but not your safe! And even passengers, who happen to be passing a cabin with a door ajar (because a steward was working and got called away, an HVAC worker ran out to get a part, etc etc.) can slip in an out of a cabin in seconds. The cruise ship blogs have plenty of posts about passengers (on various cruise lines) who claim that items were removed from their cabin

But you remind me of the passengers that say how safe it is to carry their Passport around on shore. On one of our Celebrity Silhouette cruises, a passenger (who had actually told us all about security) had his Passport stolen on a Tel Aviv beach...while he took a quick dip. That man just happened to be a NYC Police Officer.....who was very sure of himself until he wasn't. He and his wife spent the next two days in Israel (we were there for 3 days) running around like crazy people and dealing with the US Consul.....in order to get emergency replacement Passports. He later told us that his DW was furious (at him)...and that it was a story he would never tell...once he got back to work. My point is that you might go most of your life taking foolish chances....but that risk taking has a way of catching up.

Hank

People are generally honest and trustworthy until an easy opportunity presents itself and no one is looking. Do not put your room steward in such an untendable and difficult situation and turn him/her into a reluctant thief. It is very unfair to them.

Here is a tale of what can happen if you do not use a safe. This story is from a friend (A) who was travelling with another friend (B.) They were in a hotel and B would not use the safe. So she hid her credit cards. Of course she forgot where. They were checking out and travelling and she ended up having to cancel the cards. She had put them under the TV where the staff eventually found them, but too late.

This story reminds me of something that happened on our last cruise. We usually take somewhere between $500 and $1,000 in cash to pay for independent tours plus spending money. I prefer my BF carries it because he is better at keeping track of things than me.

So on our last cruise we get there and get settled in. We always keep the money plus ID, credit cards, phones, keys, prescription meds, and any electronics in the safe. A day or two into the cruise I go into the safe to get a $20 for the casino. And there was hardly any cash in there at all. I flip out and ask my BF about it and he flips out. We were about ready to go down and report a theft when he remembered that he hid the money when we were traveling and forgot to put it in the safe. SMH. But yes, 100% agree that along with the security of it, the safe also helps you keep you from misplacing valuables.

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Between the ability to query who has entered the room (staff have e-Keys issued and logged) and the ability to query an electronic safe (how many times a wrong code entered, when an override was done, when a reset was done), the safe security is pretty good on ships and on land in hotels.

Yes, please, leave the safe OPEN when you leave. It just causes grief to the next guest when it won't open...

I use it, especially for passport, cell phone, extra cash, and jewelry. You make up the combination so I think it's pretty safe. I guess if there's a key to it also (and whoever has that key is a criminal), then someone could open it. But it seems like it would be pretty hard to guess the combination.

From this thread it seems I'm a big fool, but last cruise I left about $3500 in mostly cash and a few Casino chips in the nightstand. That's a lot compared to crew salaries. Previous cruises I also left some substantial money there. Credit cards are in my wallet. Passport is on the desk so I won't forget it. I fully trust crew and officers not to steal.

 

There are just a few people allowed to enter your room, with every access logged. Some of them have access your safe anyhow, because they need your passport when you are too late. There are cameras everywhere. Who, in their right mind, would have access to your room and would be willing to spoil their career not to mention judicial punishment?

 

I haven't seen anyone reporting theft from a room on these boards, not even on a blog by a certain ambulance chaser. Of course ships have safes because people expect them to be there, but I don't think they are solving a real problem.

Nooooo! You are pulling our legs!!!

Please tell the truth it is a joke [emoji4] [emoji4]

So when is your next cruise? What is the cabin number again? Where do you live? What is your birthday? What is your first pet's name? What is the make of your first car? Where were you born? What are the 3 numbers at the back of your credit card?

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Just kidding...

As long as you are happy, relaxed, and comfy with your arrangements, safe or no safe, it boils down to why dealing with all the fuss.

But the world is changing, lots of nasty stuffs around. Mankind's fall from grace started with a temptation from an apple, so they say...... Don't put apples where they don't belong.

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From this thread it seems I'm a big fool, but last cruise I left about $3500 in mostly cash and a few Casino chips in the nightstand. That's a lot compared to crew salaries. Previous cruises I also left some substantial money there. Credit cards are in my wallet. Passport is on the desk so I won't forget it. I fully trust crew and officers not to steal.

 

There are just a few people allowed to enter your room, with every access logged. Some of them have access your safe anyhow, because they need your passport when you are too late. There are cameras everywhere. Who, in their right mind, would have access to your room and would be willing to spoil their career not to mention judicial punishment?

 

I haven't seen anyone reporting theft from a room on these boards, not even on a blog by a certain ambulance chaser. Of course ships have safes because people expect them to be there, but I don't think they are solving a real problem.

The problem arises if your cabin door is open and your cabin steward is cleaning the bathroom or otherwise distracted and an opportunist who spotted any valuables lying around could be in and out of the cabin very quickly and steal the valuables.

Lol. A fool and his money....

 

But seriously, if someone just lifted a few bills. How can you know, or prove it ever happened. Please just use the safe. It's there for a reason.

 

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Totally agree.

She needs to travel light, that way she has room to carry that chip on her shoulder. :rolleyes:

Fantastic i had a great laugh.

Yes, more then 1000 days on cruise ships tells me that you are a fool (your word,,,not mine). Is your cabin steward trustworthy....probably yes. But there are the room service folks, the folks that stock the cabin drinks, some maintenance folks, etc. etc. As to access to the safe, it takes special equipment that is kept under the strict control of the pursers office. If it is necessary to open a safe (and we have had that happen) there are very few staff that have that ability and they are tightly controlled.

 

But why do we say you are a fool. Walk down a corridor in the daytime and you might find several cabin doors slightly ajar (often kept open by a rubber door stop) as the stewards do their work. It is possible for somebody to slip in and out of a cabin in a few seconds....and things do disappear. But here is the bigger problem. Say you have a few hundred/thousand dollars disappear from your nightstand. You report it to security and their question is, "why was it in your nightstand and not in your safe?" And why should they even believe you. Perhaps you are some crazy passenger trying to find an angle for some compensation....or perhaps to file an insurance claim.

 

You might think back to when a lady on a HAL ship was nearly beaten to death by a "junior room service attendant." That employee had little problem gaining access to the cabin (where he waited on the balcony to attack the passenger). My point has nothing to do with that very rare attack...but to show that many staff members do have access to your cabin.....but not your safe! And even passengers, who happen to be passing a cabin with a door ajar (because a steward was working and got called away, an HVAC worker ran out to get a part, etc etc.) can slip in an out of a cabin in seconds. The cruise ship blogs have plenty of posts about passengers (on various cruise lines) who claim that items were removed from their cabin

 

But you remind me of the passengers that say how safe it is to carry their Passport around on shore. On one of our Celebrity Silhouette cruises, a passenger (who had actually told us all about security) had his Passport stolen on a Tel Aviv beach...while he took a quick dip. That man just happened to be a NYC Police Officer.....who was very sure of himself until he wasn't. He and his wife spent the next two days in Israel (we were there for 3 days) running around like crazy people and dealing with the US Consul.....in order to get emergency replacement Passports. He later told us that his DW was furious (at him)...and that it was a story he would never tell...once he got back to work. My point is that you might go most of your life taking foolish chances....but that risk taking has a way of catching up.

 

Hank

Great post and i totally agree.

We have stayed in many Spanish hotels where you have to go to reception and pay for the safe key and that was the first thing i would do while my wife was unpacking our holiday clothes in our room.

Nooooo! You are pulling our legs!!!

 

Please tell the truth it is a joke [emoji4] [emoji4]

 

So when is your next cruise? What is the cabin number again? Where do you live? What is your birthday? What is your first pet's name? What is the make of your first car? Where were you born? What are the 3 numbers at the back of your credit card?

 

I am also a Nigerian prince[emoji41] [emoji41] [emoji41] [emoji41]

 

Just kidding...

 

As long as you are happy, relaxed, and comfy with your arrangements, safe or no safe, it boils down to why dealing with all the fuss.

 

But the world is changing, lots of nasty stuffs around. Mankind's fall from grace started with a temptation from an apple, so they say...... Don't put apples where they don't belong.

 

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Trust no one.

I paid for a cruise of a lifetime lasting 30 days in total with hotel stays for brother in laws 60th birthday.

6 months later they refused to help in the care of my wifes and his wifes mother who is a housebound 95 years old with dementia.

That was 2 years ago and although we live next door to them we have not spoken for the 2 years.

Never ever trust anyone please.

She needs to travel light, that way she has room to carry that chip on her shoulder. :rolleyes:

Sorry, and you are?

As they old saving goes, locks keep honest people honest.

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