Carnival Cruises and Mobile Alabama Future?

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#1
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I understand that Mobile, Alabama has built a new cruise terminal for Carnival Cruise Lines... When if ever do you expect Carnival to use Mobile, Alabama for a home operation of one of their newer ships?

It seems to me that Mobile is an ideal location for Georgia, Mississippi Alabama and Tennessee residents to drive for a cruise and that a larger newer ship would work well for all.. The one ship that is now using the Mobile Terminal I believe is still the Holiday and it has been home ported there for several years... The Conquest would be nice but it is home ported in or near Houston...
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Louisiana
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Holiday is going to be or already sold so a different ship will be placed there but nobody knows what ship or when.
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#3
Hernando, MS
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I have heard from someone I work with that the Holiday is leaving this coming June. I to hope Carnival will put one of their Conquest or Spirit class ships in Mobile. I have never cruised out of Mobile but it would be so easy for us to get there from north Mississippi. It also helps that we love the Alabama Gulf Coast. It would be soooooo nice to get off of the ship, spend the night in Gulf Shores and of course eat at LuLu's...
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#4
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Originally posted by Cruiser from MS
I have heard from someone I work with that the Holiday is leaving this coming June. I to hope Carnival will put one of their Conquest or Spirit class ships in Mobile. I have never cruised out of Mobile but it would be so easy for us to get there from north Mississippi. It also helps that we love the Alabama Gulf Coast. It would be soooooo nice to get off of the ship, spend the night in Gulf Shores and of course eat at LuLu's...
You are right... once you have visited Alabama's Gulf coast then everything else from Texas to Alabama is left wanting... Let us all hope that Carnival will dock a newer ship in Mobile... great location...
#5
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Last I heard Mobile was scheduled for a Fantasy class ship.

There seems to be some variety of difficulty getting the 950 foot ships turned about in the channel.

There have been a number of threads here about that. Let me see if I can dig one up.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showt...labama+fantasy
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#6
Hernando, MS
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I have read that they are enlarging the channel so a larger ship can turn around. I sure hope that is true....
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#7
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I also live in Mississippi and would LOVE to have a larger ship in Mobile. We loved crusing on the Conquest when it was in New Orleans (only a 3 hour drive). We are crusing on the Holiday out of Mobile in March but would love the option of having a newer larger ship at a drive-to port.


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#8
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We live 90 miles NW of Mobile in Mississippi so putting a Spirit Class ship there would be ideal. My only problem is we have done the Western Caribbean and will not go back. I know...picky picky picky!!!!!! Now, if they were to do a 10 day to the Eastern or Southern..heck yes we would. I too have heard of expansion plans for the Port and Airport.

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#9
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We booked our summer cruise on the Holiday last week. Our PVP actually told us the Holiday is scheduled for a remodel. He didn't say anything about her pulling out of Mobile though!
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#10
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Originally posted by mcfam5
We booked our summer cruise on the Holiday last week. Our PVP actually told us the Holiday is scheduled for a remodel. He didn't say anything about her pulling out of Mobile though!
Yeah... she's going into dry dock for an extensive renovation, along with the Celebration. They are both going to Ibero Cruise, a new Carnival 'partner' in Spain.
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#11
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The Holiday got a remodel after FEMA borrowed it following Hurricane Katrina. I can't believe they are gonna remodel it again. Oh well....stranger things have happened. Maybe the company that is buying it wants it remodeled before it moves to Spain or wherever.

I'm so glad that we are gonna be able to cruise on Holiday once more before it's moved.

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#12
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Originally posted by lhaddon
The Holiday got a remodel after FEMA borrowed it following Hurricane Katrina. I can't believe they are gonna remodel it again. Oh well....stranger things have happened. Maybe the company that is buying it wants it remodeled before it moves to Spain or wherever.

I'm so glad that we are gonna be able to cruise on Holiday once more before it's moved.

Lora
It's supposed to be a very extensive rework for both ships, far more than a run of the mill dry dock.

You can bet that the Farcus Funnel will be gone along with all of the typical Farcus interior touches.
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#13
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If the future of the Holiday is uncertain, should I also look at my summer Holiday cruise as uncertain?? Would they sell tickets if they were uncertain if the ship was still to be in the Mobiile port in August?

I am reading some conflicting information on other threads and it's making me sweat!

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#14
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Originally posted by mcfam5
If the future of the Holiday is uncertain, should I also look at my summer Holiday cruise as uncertain?? Would they sell tickets if they were uncertain if the ship was still to be in the Mobiile port in August?

I am reading some conflicting information on other threads and it's making me sweat!

I would expect that you'll be fine. We've had this discussion previously on the board. Celebration will be the first to go and there's no set date for that yet!
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#15
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Originally posted by Host Mach
I would expect that you'll be fine. We've had this discussion previously on the board. Celebration will be the first to go and there's no set date for that yet!
Well, I can help you out a little here.
The last date I can book The Celebration is in April 2008.
Holiday on the other hand, I can book until April 30, 2009.
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#16
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Joined Jun 2005
With Carnival dragging it's foot on the new contract with the City of Mobile and the uncertain status of the Holiday.... I would like to see RCCL move in and move in quick... I do not wish to continue having only one choice in Mobile when it comes to cruising... We need RCCL
#17
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We cruised on the Holiday in October and was told a Fantasy ship was going to Mobile... I live in North Florida and that would be great.......
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#18
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
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I was just on the Holiday, with 1800 passengers (of course it is listed as a 1400 passenger ship.) We had about 500 children on board also.

The problem I see, is that the Parking Garage was PACKED. Every parking space was full. How would you even dream of putting a Fantasy size ship (2,000 passengers) when you barely have room for a Holiday size?

There are no public plans in place to retire the Holiday yet, and I do not see it happening until Mobile does something about the parking.

Look for that ship to remain. It is a CASH COW for Carnival. They own the ship, operate it at 120% capacity on Average, and it does simple four and five day trips where gambling is the biggest business on board. They provide few venues for entertainment to keep the Casino packed.

I know the plans are for two ships to go to Spain, and I have no doubt that the Holiday will be the second ship, but I would keep my ears to the wind, that they will instead send a Fantasy class ship instead so they can keep operating from Mobile.
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#19
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Originally posted by Jabee
I was just on the Holiday, with 1800 passengers (of course it is listed as a 1400 passenger ship.) We had about 500 children on board also.

The problem I see, is that the Parking Garage was PACKED. Every parking space was full. How would you even dream of putting a Fantasy size ship (2,000 passengers) when you barely have room for a Holiday size?

There are no public plans in place to retire the Holiday yet, and I do not see it happening until Mobile does something about the parking.

Look for that ship to remain. It is a CASH COW for Carnival. They own the ship, operate it at 120% capacity on Average, and it does simple four and five day trips where gambling is the biggest business on board. They provide few venues for entertainment to keep the Casino packed.

I know the plans are for two ships to go to Spain, and I have no doubt that the Holiday will be the second ship, but I would keep my ears to the wind, that they will instead send a Fantasy class ship instead so they can keep operating from Mobile.
Carnival has been a tremendous partner for the ports from which they sail. They've invested millions in upgrades to manage the increasing numbers of passengers who flow through these cruise terminals yearly. I'd be surprised if Carnival didn't participate in upgrading parking and what ever facilities are necessary to accommodate as Fantasy class ship in Mobile.

You're correct, both the Celebration and the Holiday are destined for IberoCruise, Carnival's new partner in Spain. You're also correct that the Holiday will be the second to go. She probably has another two years in Mobile before heading out for an extensive refit. That should give Carnival and Mobile plenty of time to make whatever changes are necessary to manage the growth.
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#20
Alabama
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Joined Feb 2005
Originally posted by Checkmate1955
With Carnival dragging it's foot on the new contract with the City of Mobile and the uncertain status of the Holiday.... I would like to see RCCL move in and move in quick... I do not wish to continue having only one choice in Mobile when it comes to cruising... We need RCCL

I had heard last year that RCI was looking at Mobile for the Enchantment, but the issues with the turning basin upriver made it a non-starter. Enchantment is 990 feet and the turning basin is 1000 feet. Too tight a fit.