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Is it a state of mind?
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#81
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Having read all four pages, I am wondering why anyone even continues to respond to a poster that seems to inhabit a different world, with its own arbitrary rules and references.
No amount of logic seems to make a dent.
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#82
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Originally posted by Jacqueline
Having read all four pages, I am wondering why anyone even continues to respond to a poster that seems to inhabit a different world, with its own arbitrary rules and references.
No amount of logic seems to make a dent.
I am wondering why you responded since you have no logic to respond with.
#84
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Originally posted by wripro
I, the arbiter of record, award said poster zero stars for logic.
You are right. You offer no logic. What makes you the authority?
#85
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Originally posted by paul1439
You are right. You offer no logic. What makes you the authority?
The same thing that makes you an arbiter, his/your opinion. Wish you would accept that your opinion is just that, your opinion, and not the be all and end all.
#86
Charlotte, NC
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Originally posted by Texas Tillie
The same thing that makes you an arbiter, his/your opinion. Wish you would accept that your opinion is just that, your opinion, and not the be all and end all.
Correct.
Throughout this whole thread and every other in which the self proclaimed standard bearer issues his screed, this school child phrase is echoing loudly for me:
Who died and made you boss?
#87
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I guess because cruise reviewers and cruisers like yourself and others think your opinions are right and if someone comes up with idea for creating a standard for luxury cruising they have no authority. Well they do have the authority. It's not up to the cruise lines but the cruisers themselves to say what makes a luxury cruise line. I am trying to get the ball rolling. There is a need for some kind of standard in the luxury cruise line industry. Cruisers who have been on luxury cruise lines know the names of the top cruise lines. The debate starts from that point. This is the reason why there is a need for some type of standard for these luxury cruise lines.
#88
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As I said before, I wouldn't mind a standard at all but nobody is ever going to agree on one. Especially not if it is left to cruisers to decide. Ask 10 people, get 10 opinions.
As an example, for me, AI is absolutely not a sign of luxury. And cabin size, where does it start? Is 25m2 enough? Does it have to be 27m2 or even 30m2? And why? And service is a very important factor as well. You can have great hardware but without good service, it's nothing. But again, attentive service for one might be annoying chatty service to another.
#89
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Originally posted by cathaana
As I said before, I wouldn't mind a standard at all but nobody is ever going to agree on one. Especially not if it is left to cruisers to decide. Ask 10 people, get 10 opinions.
As an example, for me, AI is absolutely not a sign of luxury. And cabin size, where does it start? Is 25m2 enough? Does it have to be 27m2 or even 30m2? And why? And service is a very important factor as well. You can have great hardware but without good service, it's nothing. But again, attentive service for one might be annoying chatty service to another.
Completely agree with you. IMO, cruisers are the worst possible people to determine what is luxury and what is not. So much is based upon our experiences. This reminds me of a discussion of caviar. Some people get so excited when they see "paddlefish eggs" on the menu (the cruise lines call it caviar which it might be to some but it certainly isn't to others.

What you said about service is true. Expectations are different depending upon the country you are from. Some passengers prefer to be treated and addressed formally while others would find it very "stuffy" and uncomfortable.

Also, I have learned that suite size is also subjective. While we prefer larger suites with 1 1/2 bathrooms, others are happy in a small suite (again, speaking only about luxury cruise lines).

The one area where we disagree somewhat is about being all-inclusive. Certainly, you cannot take a mainstream cruise line, make it all-inclusive and call it "luxury". However, when luxury cruise lines began going all-inclusive, the other luxury lines followed. In order to be AI and luxury, the food and service has to live up to the "luxury" rating.

Since 2004, almost all of our cruises have been on luxury cruise lines. We have seen changes. Luxury cruise lines are more inclusive (some cruise lines including air -- even Business Class--, excursions, etc. Also, the dress code has gone from formal to elegant casual. What has not changed is the level of service and food quality.

The bottom line for me is that, unless or until cruisers sail on all luxury, premium-plus and premium cruise lines, their input in terms of setting "standards" will be flawed. Actually, even if they met this criteria, who is to say that what one person considers luxury would be the same for someone else.
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Originally posted by Travelcat2
. Actually, even if they met this criteria, who is to say that what one person considers luxury would be the same for someone else.
This is a truly definitive statement on the subject,
#94
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Originally posted by perditax
Oh, I'm sure someone will get it.
I figured it was just a matter of time before someone 'tapped' that joke...
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#95
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Originally posted by Travelcat2
Excuse my ignorance but what does this have to do with cruising?


From Wikipedia. "The primary implication of the reference is one in which things that are essentially the same are seen as different, due to mislabeling or the user's misunderstanding of the underlying operating principles. A secondary reference may be anything being exploited to its utmost limits, or apparently exceeding them. Similarly, the expression "turning it up to eleven" refers to the act of taking something to an extreme."




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#97
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Originally posted by UPNYGuy
From Wikipedia. "The primary implication of the reference is one in which things that are essentially the same are seen as different, due to mislabeling or the user's misunderstanding of the underlying operating principles. A secondary reference may be anything being exploited to its utmost limits, or apparently exceeding them. Similarly, the expression "turning it up to eleven" refers to the act of taking something to an extreme."




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Thanks much for the explanation!
#98
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Originally posted by Travelcat2
Thanks much for the explanation!


No problem


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