Rowdiness on board

I witnessed Security breaking up a scuffle when a group attempted to cut the endless, slow moving line for passport control aboard the Rotterdam at our first port in India.

other than the segway guy threatening to run people over in the Lido ;p:'):loudcry:

I thought I read somewhere (maybe on these boards) that the infamous Segway guy actually did hit a few folks before he was appropriately dealt with. Is this true?

We witnessed an angry man throw silverware at a waiter in the dining room, Veendam. Dining areas were terribly understaffed resulting in all time slow service. The angry man had ordered soup, which was served without a soup spoon. A bit of a ruckus followed, adjacent passengers tried to restrain the man who was also lunging and swinging his arms.

For the rest of the cruise, crew members were observed paying lots of attention to this guy, chatting him up everywhere.

The only thing I've witnessed on HAL ships is the occasional "grumbler"/complainer/overly critical individual. You know the kind I am talking about.

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. And unfortunately from our experience, they haven't been occasional. We've seen / heard them on nearly every cruise we've been on. We just try to ignore them and get away from them as quickly as possible.

I can imagine a brawl on Hal . One piece of chocolate cake left at the buffet and several people from different directions making a run for it. Well, more like a quick walk.

It could end badly.

Sandra

Even more likely if it was the last serving of bread pudding.

we were on a Seabourn all inclusive last Dec.and there was a strange looking guy with a Mohawk always at the Seaview bar drinking very expensive drinks of all kinds and said something about a bomb in his cabin. On the first port day. He disappeared and was told the St.Thomas police came on board and removed him.That cruise was quite expensive especially for less than 3 days. Lots of talk about him for the rest of the cruise.

I have never seen that kind of drunken brawl. No the rowdiness on my cruises has come from unsupervised teen-agers who do what teen-agers in groups do, get into mischief. Some of the mischief was just annoying like going up and down the halls knocking on all the cabin doors and running to the next one or splashing, being loud rowdy in the pool. Some of the mischief was destructive, on one cruise there was a group of "little darlings" who carved their names into the elevator button panels (I heard later that their parents were charged for those acts of vandalism). And some of the behavior did require ship's security to get involved, on at least two cruises, I have witnessed security having to escort teenagers from the bars -- they were sitting at the bars and refusing to leave the nightclub when it became an adults-only venue.

Most of the drunk adults I've seen just occupy a bar stool for the cruise and/or stagger back to their cabin.

It actually did happen on the Koningsdam last year. Those of you familiar with the location of the Lincoln Center Stage proximity to the Billboard bar know that at times the noise from the Billboard area interferes with the LC performance. In this particular incident, a noisy drunk from the Billboard was in the hall area by the LC, very obnoxious. An elderly Asian gentleman asked him to be quiet. He got noisier, and the Asian gentleman got up and started waving his cane at the offender, whp then attacked the gentleman. It was quickly broken up and reported to the Guest Relations Manager. I really don't kn ow what the end result was...

This is interesting. Lincoln Center has a sort of manager, who sets up their tablets before performances and puts out the "Shhh!" sign at the approach from the elevator bank. He stood near the staircase throughout the performances, probably to be there if they had a technical glitch with the microphone they used to do intros or with the tablets. But he would also be in a position to deal with a difficult passenger, or call security so that they could do it.

About 5 years ago we were on the Westerdam for a New Year's cruise. We arrived at the Main Showroom (Vista Lounge) after dinner on New Year's Eve, to find that it was packed. As we stood there for a moment to see if we could spot any open seats, two elderly women right in front of us got into it over the placement of a walker that belonged to one of them! We quickly left when they both took hold of the walker and started yanking back and forth, trying to wrestle it away from one another. We ended up spending the evening in the Crow's Nest instead which was quite peaceful, thankfully.

I thought I read somewhere (maybe on these boards) that the infamous Segway guy actually did hit a few folks before he was appropriately dealt with. Is this true?

You have a good memory. I reported on my live thread.

yes, he hit one person. He had already had a warning that he was not to use it onboard and carry it off the ship and only use it in ports. He disregarded. and kept zooming on the Lido. He nearly took me off my feet (thank heavens he didn't as I was recovering from elbow surgery), but he did knock another passenger down.

You could tell that he thought he was a real smart a** and the rules didn't apply to him.

After the accident and breaking of the rules....That was it. His segway was confiscated for the entire cruise. He couldn't get it at anytime. He didn't play ball and security and HAL acted appropriately.

And thanks to him, segways are now banned on HAL ships. It just takes one bad apple....

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. And unfortunately from our experience, they haven't been occasional. We've seen / heard them on nearly every cruise we've been on. We just try to ignore them and get away from them as quickly as possible.

Yes, I make an "exit stage left" move......I get away quickly. I don't want them spoiling my good mood!

Rotterdam V, 1970: a Lounge (probably on Sports Deck), very high mid-ship, with the elevators that opened directly into the Lounge. When I arrived one evening, a gentleman was already well lubricated. Walking across the floor (in calm seas), he fell, was helped to his feet by a Steward and he returned to his seat at the Bar. Minutes later, he again tried to cross the floor, again fell. The Stewards picked him up and escorted him to the elevators to take him to his cabin. Before the Stewards returned, the elevator doors opened again and there he was once again. He was allowed to remain until there was a third performance of his "act" at which time he was removed and taken to the Brig. I never saw him again.

Statendam, sailing from our last Hawaiian port, on her way to Singapore: at the Sailaway Party at the aft Pool, a brief program was conducted where we were encouraged to throw our leis into the pool (used to be the sea) as a hope of once again returning to Hawaii. Lots of us did. Then, a gentleman with too many Mai Tais, or whatever, under his belt jumped into the pool fully clothed wearing his Lei. Security fished him out as I recall.

Idiots exist and one never knows when one will encounter them. And, alcohol does not help in such situations.

Check my Signature: I have Carnival Cruise Line experience and I have never experienced any inappropriate behavior on a Carnival Cruise, including a Spring Break-time cruise as well as a 4 day Bahamas cruise from Port Canaveral. Just because it is a "Fun Ship" cruise does not mean it will be a rowdy experience.

On the koningsdam this past November, it was turnaround day in the middle if the 21 day cruise. I went ashore. Friends of mine waited with the group to be cleared by customs.

6 people were missing and they spent almost an hour trying to find them. They finally did and the 4 showed up with not a care in the world and no apologies.

The German couple alsp finally arrived and refused to get off the ship as was required by customs agents and the captain kicked them off the ship. I guess they didn't understand they were disembarking either way....one way was for 15 minutes, the other was for the remainder of the 11 days.

Only seen that type of brawl at my own family reunions!;p

We've seen two different confrontations in the last few years on two different HAL Ships. The one was in the MDR on the NA TA where Security had to be called and led out the passengers yelling at each other. The other a year ago was on Oostie where Security wasn't called and the Maitre'd's handled it (this, too, was in the MDR).

 

Regarding what happened with Carnival Security I'm not going to judge how they handled it. There is a difference dealing with two (2) passengers getting into a fight and thirty (30) passengers in a huge all out Brawl. Those passengers involved were causing problems on and off all week and should have been put off earlier!

 

There should be a Zero Tolerance on bad behavior of this type!

I read several accounts from other passengers who said this group was primed for confrontations when they boarded the ship - several scuffles at the pool, another area of the ship, before this all-out brawl. I did read of another "fight" on a Carnival ship awhile ago when a group broke into the line of the "Johnny Rockets" café. Not this serious though. I have never observed any level of this behavior on a HAL ship. I'll take sedate anytime.......

Coming home from Venice to FLL the weather was bad for 10 days---a lot of sick people, crew and missed ports. There was Vandalism on the ship and some public areas were shut down and some announcement made. We were told to behave. I personally never saw anthing.

Nothing close to what happened on the Carnival ship on HAL or any other cruise line.:eek:

Those of you acting like HAL is so immune from this should be reminded of a woman who was very brutally raped and almost killed on a HAL ship.

This fight on Carnival is far less violent than what happened to that poor woman.

I've never seen anything like that on HAL, but I have seen some fairly bad behavior:

1. At the Panama Canal, a woman shoving people out of her way at the rail on one of the decks (I mean shoving hard) and loudly complaining that the deck was reserved for five star Mariners. Uhm, no.

2. A family group on a Canada/New England cruise who managed to clear out enough seats for them all in a very crowded Crows Nest by loudly and profanely talking politics until the people next to them would get up and leave. They repeated that maneuver until they had seats for all members of their party. Ugh.

3. On a Caribbean cruise, a man who screamed at severs and food prep staff in the Lido. "Don't you know how to do anything right, you idiot?" type remarks and derogatory remarks about the countries they came. from. Double ugh.

Fortunately, I've come across much more in the way of pleasant, decent, kind behavior. And thankfully, never a drunken brawl!

I've never seen anything like that on HAL, but I have seen some fairly bad behavior:

 

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3. On a Caribbean cruise, a man who screamed at severs and food prep staff in the Lido. "Don't you know how to do anything right, you idiot?" type remarks and derogatory remarks about the countries they came. from. Double ugh.

 

Fortunately, I've come across much more in the way of pleasant, decent, kind behavior. And thankfully, never a drunken brawl!

We've been on HAL, Princess, Carnival, and Royal Caribbean. I've seen drunken behavior on all of them, including vomiting in various places. A number of years ago, in the Queen's Lounge on the Oosterdam during the then-popular karaoke competition thing, a male passenger was very happily and publicly loving on his wife during her time on stage. Ahahahahaha. His family members corralled him and made him sit down where he continued to bellow drunken encouragement the entire time she was up there. Very entertaining! (And his wife was an AWESOME singer!)

But the worst thing I have ever seen was on a HAL ship. A 'gentleman' at a nearby table berated our dining room steward and his wife every.single.night. Very loudly. EVERY NIGHT at dinner. I wanted to go over there and just smack him.

Our poor steward was so apologetic. We told him to not worry about us, and to please make certain that man's table was served first every time, no matter what order we appeared in. I just hated hearing that man do that. It was a 14-night cruise. My brother-in-law, bless his heart, triple tipped the stewards because we all figured there was no way that guy was tipping.

That behavior still gets me hot under my collar when I think about it.

Maybe this was the first ever "Hatfield's and McCoy's" theme cruise but they forgot to market it as such.

Only seen that type of brawl at my own family reunions!;p

I rather expected a hockey game to break out....:o

i can imagine a brawl on hal . One piece of chocolate cake left at the buffet and several people from different directions making a run for it. Well, more like a quick walk.

It could end badly.

Sandra

lol!!!

On our Trans-Atlantic Rotterdam cruise last year I happened to walk into the Front Desk area late in the evening and observed a middle aged passenger verbally screaming and cussing the ladies at the front over some unknown issue. I hovered off to the side to see if they needed any help. I also saw a male officer watching the situation. After a few minutes of screaming and cussing the passenger finally headed for his cabin. I walked by and told the ladies they handled the situation professionally and calmly. I then headed toward my cabin in the same direction as the disgruntled passenger, DARN he had a cabin right near ours! The passengers right next to his cabin stated to us that they suffered from screaming and yelling in all hours of the day and night from his cabin. Thank heavens we did not hear any of his nightly tirades. Later I observed him one morning drinking a beer at 7:30am leaning over a Promenade deck railing. Luckily they got off after the first segment of the 30 day cruise.

Those of you acting like HAL is so immune from this should be reminded of a woman who was very brutally raped and almost killed on a HAL ship.

 

This fight on Carnival is far less violent than what happened to that poor woman.

My goodness yes. That really shook me up badly at the time and I don’t know why it didn’t come to mind.

I wonder if there is a "Blacklist" for those people who disrupt a cruise in the ways mentioned and are made to disembark early.