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#41
Riding the Oceans Waves
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Originally posted by jburton59
I'm sorry Salacia is no longer with us to explain that Manhattan Island does not equal New York.
Ah but most tourists relate Manhattan as New York, not like tourists to UK where London is not Southampton they are two completely different Cities about 79 miles apart.
#42
108 Posts
Joined Sep 2017
Originally posted by Pennbank
Ah but most tourists relate Manhattan as New York, not like tourists to UK where London is not Southampton they are two completely different Cities about 79 miles apart.
Hopefully they might allow this new ship to be registered in the city for at least a while, the cunarders from QE2 were good ambassadors for the city globally.
#43
Chester, UK
1,546 Posts
Joined Apr 2011
Originally posted by Calliope
Well, Tom, I have to agree with you. It is sad, but what do you expect from the marketing department when they have to appeal to geographically challenged people?
Years ago I went skiing in Vale. I can still remember an American lady telling me that she'd only just learned that Scotland was not a part of England !
#44
3,598 Posts
Joined Sep 2008
“Say, where are you folks from” ——“We live in Cheshire, not far from Liverpool” ——Blank look. Reminder to self, next time say near London.

David.
#45
NYC
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Joined Mar 2011
Cunard calling the port of Southampton as an arrival in "London" is a piker compared to the airline industry. How many fly "to New York" via JFK airport? According to Wikipedia,"JFK is located in the neighborhood of Jamaica in the New York City borough of Queens, 10 miles (20 km) southeast of Midtown Manhattan."

Truth in advertising would require that tickets read Queens, New York, United States.
#46
Valley of the Sun, Arizona
7,821 Posts
Joined Mar 2004
Originally posted by BlueRiband
Cunard calling the port of Southampton as an arrival in "London" is a piker compared to the airline industry. How many fly "to New York" via JFK airport? According to Wikipedia,"JFK is located in the neighborhood of Jamaica in the New York City borough of Queens, 10 miles (20 km) southeast of Midtown Manhattan."

Truth in advertising would require that tickets read Queens, New York, United States.
Or worse...Flying to "New York" and arriving in Newark......
Or flying to Crawley, West Sussex.....Oh wait, that is London (Gatwick).
#47
Charleston, Charleston Made in Carolina
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OK...has anyone flown into Cincinnati, Ohio? Probably not, as nearly all Cincinnati bound commercial flights land at Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky International Airport (CVG) which is in Boone County, Kentucky. Even though it's in Boone County, Kentucky it is owned by the good citizens of Kenton County, Kentucky, several miles away. And the airport code CVG is short for Covington, Kentucky which is one of the two county seats of Kenton County; the other one is Independence, Kentucky. Two county seats in one county dates back to the time when it would have been impossible for many of its citizens to have made a one day journey into the county seat for official matters. Now aren't you glad you read this?
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#48
Chester, UK
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Originally posted by balf
“Say, where are you folks from” ——“We live in Cheshire, not far from Liverpool” ——Blank look. Reminder to self, next time say near London.

David.
I actually get this working in London. I'm not making this up, but about 2 weeks ago someone I work with in London asked me where I'd traveled from this morning. Chester I said. And he replied "Is that near Chesterfield ?"

So don't just mock the Americans, people from London are just as bad !
#49
UK
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Having a reasonably successful Premier League football (soccer) team can help some of the more geographically challenged people. I'm originally from Hull (north coast of England) and no one has ever heard of us until we managed to get the local team promoted and then suddenly people became more aware of Hull. Now I live in Manchester - not a huge problem with location now - unless of course the person you are talking to doesn't follow the game!!!
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#50
UK
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Joined Dec 2011
On Q.V. at the moment. Tonight is roaring 20s evening. There is zero interest in this event. So much so I have gone back to the cabin to change. People on this website who v
Continuously promote formal dress as the norm are either not regular cruisers or are living in a different world.


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#51
Newport Beach, CA
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Joined Apr 2005
Originally posted by ToadOfToadHall
I actually get this working in London. I'm not making this up, but about 2 weeks ago someone I work with in London asked me where I'd traveled from this morning. Chester I said. And he replied "Is that near Chesterfield ?"

So don't just mock the Americans, people from London are just as bad !
Yes please don't mock the Americans.. some Americans have traveled extensively in the UK and know
where cities and ports are located. I once had a British traveler ask me if one could see San Diego, Los Angeles, and San francisco in the same day. (By car.) Some cruise lines will say Le Havre (for Paris.)
#52
Hawaii
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Joined Aug 2012
Also amazing are the numbers of folks who do not realize the Hawaiian Islands are ~~~ Islands ~~~~ !!

And you must take a plane to get from one to another.

Yes-Yes-- I know--- cruise ships drop visitors off at the 4 major islands for day-trips. But there are no ferries / ships for 'every day' passage from one island to the next.
#54
108 Posts
Joined Sep 2017
Originally posted by ace2542
I am going to call it now. Cunard won't make it to it's 200th anniversary. I don't see it lasting more than 10 more years.
To be honest it’s been the case since 1998 that carnival could decide at the drop of a hat it’s no longer worth the effort and expense of keeping the line going, retire the brand and reassign the ships amongst its other fleets... I take 2022 as a good sign that Cunard is still delivering on the profitability front and that’s why (really) we shouldn’t whinge about it looking like Chichén Itzá at the front!
#55
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Joined Nov 2016
Originally posted by SilverHengroen
To be honest it’s been the case since 1998 that carnival could decide at the drop of a hat it’s no longer worth the effort and expense of keeping the line going, retire the brand and reassign the ships amongst its other fleets... I take 2022 as a good sign that Cunard is still delivering on the profitability front and that’s why (really) we shouldn’t whinge about it looking like Chichén Itzá at the front!
The quality of the ships are going down as is the service I found that this time round. It only takes someone to take them on for transatlantic crossings and they could be in trouble. Besides the younger generations of cruisers don't seem to be into Cunard do they? And they are so arrogant to claim the ships are always full the Jan 3rd crossing was not full it was about 80% max.
#56
Ewing, NJ
475 Posts
Joined Nov 2008
Originally posted by Transatlantic Tom
As if being called a "guest" wasn't bad enough....

...NOW Cunard marketing emails are offering "transatlantic crossings from NY to LONDON" (or vice versa); cruises to/from London TOO !!

Unless QM2, QV & QE have secretly begun sailings to/from Tilbury, the Isle of Dogs or The Embankment - I wish that Cunard would stop this silliness.

Southampton, Southampton, Southampton !!!
Unfortunately, it's not new, and it isn't just a Cunard thing. It's industry wide. There's a whole bunch of itineraries that list:

Warnemunde for Berlin
Civitavecchia for Rome
Le Havre for Paris
Port Said for Cairo
Port Canaveral for Orlando
Cape Liberty/Bayonne for New York

And those are just the ones off the top of my head.
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#58
London
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Joined Jul 2016
Originally posted by PRINCESSTHE BEST
On Q.V. at the moment. Tonight is roaring 20s evening. There is zero interest in this event. So much so I have gone back to the cabin to change. People on this website who v
Continuously promote formal dress as the norm are either not regular cruisers or are living in a different world.

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I'm also on the qv. There were lots of people dressed for the roaring 20s ball last night and the queen's room was busy. It was a very enjoyable evening. To say there was zero interest is just wrong.
#59
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Joined Sep 2017
Originally posted by ace2542
The quality of the ships are going down as is the service I found that this time round. It only takes someone to take them on for transatlantic crossings and they could be in trouble. Besides the younger generations of cruisers don't seem to be into Cunard do they? And they are so arrogant to claim the ships are always full the Jan 3rd crossing was not full it was about 80% max.
And I have found service consistently excellent across all my sailings, and I think it’s fair to point out Cunard has never had a better fleet in terms of amenities offered, consistency of experience, safety or itineraries offered. My first sailing was in 2011, when I was 16, since then I have introduced many friends to the line and all have loved it. Who is going to build a ship capable of competing with QM2 on the Atlantic if it would end up causing both ships to operate at a loss until one or the other blinked?
#60
236 Posts
Joined Nov 2016
Originally posted by SilverHengroen
And I have found service consistently excellent across all my sailings, and I think it’s fair to point out Cunard has never had a better fleet in terms of amenities offered, consistency of experience, safety or itineraries offered. My first sailing was in 2011, when I was 16, since then I have introduced many friends to the line and all have loved it. Who is going to build a ship capable of competing with QM2 on the Atlantic if it would end up causing both ships to operate at a loss until one or the other blinked?
Well on the Jan 3rd sailing they had a problem with the water supply, half the public toilets would not flush the some of the lifts did not work for periods of time. There is also apparently something wrong with one of the thrusters requiring a dry dock visit at some point.