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#41
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Originally posted by BruceMuzz
So let's see now;
1. You remove the bottle from a contaminated pocket or purse, and squirt the sanitizer on your hands.
2. Now your hands are relatively clean.
3. You pick up the contaminated bottle to pass it to someone else or to put it back into your contaminated pocket or purse, thereby contaminating your hands all over again........................
I prefer to use this method which avoids recontamination:
1. Unzip handbag compartment with right hand, remove sanitizer and squirt onto left hand.
2. Replace sanitizer in handbag and close zip with right hand.
3. Rub sanitiser into both hands which (hopefully) leaves them relatively clean.
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Originally posted by JF - retired RRT
I've always wondered when/if the staff cleans the menus in the MDR. My guess is "no".
I carry a small hand sanitizer bottle when on board and after we finish with the menu, we clean our hands with it. You never know where that menu has been.
Any purse I purchase for cruise must accommodate my little bottle of sanitizer! Great minds think alike!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Times Prince
I was pleasantly surprised on Royal Princess to not only see the handwashing stations, but to see the crew member enforcing that people use them.

While Purell is nice, all medical personnel agree that hand washing is much, much more effective.
It's more like encouraging, not enforcing.
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Originally posted by Ellipooh
On our recent Caribbean Princess cruise, I was disappointed to see the new hand-washing stations at the buffet instead of a crew member with a bottle of Purell. DH and I were the only ones I ever saw using the sinks, on a 12-day cruise. Halfway through, we switched to in-room dining.

I raised the issue in our post-cruise survey.
You might be aware that Purell is nearly useless against Norovirus....while hand washing with soap and water is very effective. We once met a CDC expert (lecturing the crew on a ship) who told us that his major problem with hand sanitizers is that they give the user a false sense of protection. Few folks will wash their hands with soap and water if there is a convenient hand sanitzer nearby.

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Originally posted by steelers36
I'm all for personal hygiene, but if you are worried about the menus, why aren't you taking your dishes, glasses and flatware back to the cabin to wash them before being served food? What about your chair? Oh wait, the dishes come from the kitchen with food on them. The waiters handle the dishes. Oh oh. Don't mean to make fun of you but we can only go so far within reason.
its fun to watch the waitresses in restaurants wait in customers, serve food, wrap the silverware, take money etc etc all without washing their hands

heck in the old days my fav sub shop took your order and made subs and took your money with no thought about it.

also wondering how many people here touch escalator handrails or do you use the back of your hand to steady yourself
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Originally posted by Hlitner
You might be aware that Purell is nearly useless against Norovirus....while hand washing with soap and water is very effective. We once met a CDC expert (lecturing the crew on a ship) who told us that his major problem with hand sanitizers is that they give the user a false sense of protection. Few folks will wash their hands with soap and water if there is a convenient hand sanitzer nearby.

Hank
So right about the sanitizers. No mention in this thread about RINSING! All the soap does is "loosen and float' the germs off the skin, but its a good 20 second rinse that carries them away. Soap with a brief rinse is not as effective.
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I have always wondered why some people don't wash after using the restroom. I usually say something like you forgot to wash to those I see not washing and almost always get ignored. A couple of times people have turned around and washed. The only times I haven't washed my hands is when the water itself is dirty. Then I use a wipe or hand sanitizer.

Only 2 people have said why they don't wash. When I saw this post I was hoping we would hear from more. I have heard the old excuse of I didn't touch anything so my hands aren't dirty.

I had never considered that the sink might be dirty. But then I don't touch the sink bowl, my hands are washed after turning the water on and I turn it off using a paper towel or my elbow. So I don't understand how a dirty sink is an issue.


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Reading this thread gave me some food for thought about how and why people do things. I wash my hands fro two reasons.
1. To keep me from getting sick
2. to keep others from getting sick.
Like others I try not to touch to many surfaces in the public Princess bathrooms. I so have a question, how does any one flush a Princess toilet with their foot?
A. You must put the lid down. Can't not react the flush button with it up.
B. The button gets press (as I recall ) and it seem to get pressed below the surface that it is on. I would really like to learn this trick.
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I have to ask, especially to the assumed male who "shakes dry".
So if you just shake dry I take it you didn't touch your package therfore you didn't aim and likely sprayed urine all over. How is this more sanitary? Gross..the reason men's restrooms are known to be dirtier than women's.
Another thought to consider is people go to the bathroom, male or female, typically have used their hands and touched their genitals to wipe or shake. Then they go to the sink and turn on the water so now that is on the faucets of the sink. That would be why I would agree the sink could be dirty. .. and why I turn the water on with a paper towel. Rise hands then get soap, then rinse again.

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Originally posted by geocruiser
Reading this thread gave me some food for thought about how and why people do things. I wash my hands fro two reasons.
1. To keep me from getting sick
2. to keep others from getting sick.
Like others I try not to touch to many surfaces in the public Princess bathrooms. I so have a question, how does any one flush a Princess toilet with their foot?
A. You must put the lid down. Can't not react the flush button with it up.
B. The button gets press (as I recall ) and it seem to get pressed below the surface that it is on. I would really like to learn this trick.

Originally posted by kc58ab
I have to ask, especially to the assumed male who "shakes dry".
So if you just shake dry I take it you didn't touch your package therfore you didn't aim and likely sprayed urine all over. How is this more sanitary? Gross..the reason men's restrooms are known to be dirtier than women's.
Another thought to consider is people go to the bathroom, male or female, typically have used their hands and touched their genitals to wipe or shake. Then they go to the sink and turn on the water so now that is on the faucets of the sink. That would be why I would agree the sink could be dirty. .. and why I turn the water on with a paper towel. Rise hands then get soap, then rinse again.

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Princess has automatic flushers & water control systems.
No touching involved.
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Automatic flushers and water controls don't prevent urine from spraying all over the place on a man if they aren't controlling where the urine is going.

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Originally posted by floridalover5623
Princess has automatic flushers & water control systems.
No touching involved.
I must be loosing it, I don't remember the automatic flushers. And my last cruise was in March! I am getting old!!!
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Originally posted by kc58ab
Automatic flushers and water controls don't prevent urine from spraying all over the place on a man if they aren't controlling where the urine is going.

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Haha, well done there.

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#55
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Originally posted by froggy9143
I always wonder what the aversion is to washing your hands after using the restroom. I just got off of the Coral Princess and evey time I was in a public restroom the others just walked out after flushing and never washed? I do not want to get sick while on a ship I said something to each person as they were leaving the restroom about washing, All I get back was a snide look or in one case and older person then me 50+ said FU? really I just want to stay healthy, I also notice that on the Coral they was no staff person standing at the entrance of the buffet or dining room making sure people use the Purell. On the other ships there is alway someone there, on the Star you can't get past them in the buffet they will not hand you a plate till you wash/rinse with the purell.


Is it just me thats weird about people washing thier hands? Just touching the door handles in the restrooms and the flusher is enough to make anyone want to wash up.
I prefer to use my own hand sanitizer that I keep in my pocket when I've exited the bathroom, sorry you can't accept that choice over rinsing hands. Most people don't really wash, they rinse which is useless.
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Fun thought:

Usually when there is an "outbreak" reported to the CDC, 6-10% of passengers have it, and 1-2% of crew have it.

Don't you think that's interesting given the crew is in tighter quarters, fatigued, partying at night, exposed to elements on colder cruises. The biggest difference I've seen and heard is that they are held to a very high standard of washing their hands frequently by management. Purell or not, that 4 to 9% difference would seem to be related to washing hands.

It also doesn't hurt to wipe down phones, remotes, and frequently touched surfaces in your cabin when you board the ship with disinfecting wipes.
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Originally posted by floridalover5623
princess has automatic flushers & water control systems.
No touching involved.
bazinga!
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Originally posted by runnerodb83
Fun thought:

Usually when there is an "outbreak" reported to the CDC, 6-10% of passengers have it, and 1-2% of crew have it.

Don't you think that's interesting given the crew is in tighter quarters, fatigued, partying at night, exposed to elements on colder cruises. The biggest difference I've seen and heard is that they are held to a very high standard of washing their hands frequently by management. Purell or not, that 4 to 9% difference would seem to be related to washing hands.
What does the weather have to do with Noro virus?
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Originally posted by kc58ab
Automatic flushers and water controls don't prevent urine from spraying all over the place on a man if they aren't controlling where the urine is going.

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as an fyi hand sanitizers are very ineffective against things like noroviruses - you need to thoroughly (time, friction, etc) wash your hands.

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/cruisel...ne_general.htm

The efficacy of most alcohol-based hand antiseptics approximates simple hand washing. In addition, many alcohol-based hand antiseptics have very poor activity against bacterial spores, protozoan cysts and certain non-enveloped viruses, such as noroviruses.