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#41
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Originally posted by peteukmcr
I’m sure it will be optional, as it is on other lines (except when included as a perk in the cruise fare, which it is anything but a perk, as the fare has been increased accordingly) and so for everyone saying they don’t want it because perhaps they don’t drink enough, it’s not compulsory.

So many get worked up about it, but it’s not mandatory.

The only time it’s mandatory is when 1 in a cabin buys it, then the other has to. That’s to try and stop people sharing.

The reason this rule is in place is because people are basically dishonest and share packages. RCI used to let just one person in a cabin purchase a package, but reversed the decision because too many were abusing it.

So the minority spoilt it for the majority.


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Thanks for the reassurance and explanation.

We have been cruising only with P&O for several years now and have been on all of their ships, some more than once, so we are very familiar with how things currently work with them.
We feel very comfortable cruising with them at the moment and hope to continue but we get a little concerned with the various potential future changes and how they will effect us in the future.
#42
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It occurs to me that the structure of this package is set up to fail. I just cannot see the average cruiser finding this of value. The restrictions mean that if you do spend as much as £40 pppd would it be worth it for all the bother of not drinking exactly what you wanted to drink.


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#43
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Originally posted by FangedRose
Those that interact with young people, or simply keep up with the news won't be suprised.
Smoking, drug taking, and binge drinking are now primarily for the middle aged. Teenage pregnancy is at all time low. Probably a link there. 😋
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#44
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I think there is no worries that if it becomes a permanent feature on all P&O ships it will become available as an added package at your purchase that is the way it has been offered on Princess for years and although on first day of cruise on embarkation there are tables selling drinks packages you are not forced into buying.
#45
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Originally posted by daiB
It occurs to me that the structure of this package is set up to fail. I just cannot see the average cruiser finding this of value. The restrictions mean that if you do spend as much as £40 pppd would it be worth it for all the bother of not drinking exactly what you wanted to drink.


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If like some in my party on an upcoming cruise you like botanical gin and fever tree tonics then the package would mean lowering your standards somewhat (tonic on tap ie) but for us (wine and beer mostly) it will represent good value. Given the cruise is over New Year and we’re travelling in a group and it’s the Caribbean we’re likely to drink more. Add in the coffees/water/soft drinks etc and we’ll reach our £40pppd easily.


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Originally posted by daiB
It occurs to me that the structure of this package is set up to fail. I just cannot see the average cruiser finding this of value. The restrictions mean that if you do spend as much as £40 pppd would it be worth it for all the bother of not drinking exactly what you wanted to drink.


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I agree, think they are over complicating it as they often do, too many rules, 15 drinks, 15 mins, no cans, small water only, all too restricting, can't see ordering wine being easy either.
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I think ordering wine with your evening meal will restrict you to just 1 glass, how long will it take to find the wine waiter & reorder your 2nd glass of wine.
For our next cruise if would cost us as a couple £2237!!!
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In my experience the wine was served quite quickly in the MDR on my last cruise with Princess with the drinks package, wasn't a problem.
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#49
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Another reason why this package will not appeal to some, is that if you are traveling as a family often you tend to each buy a round of drinks throughout the day and hence do not spend £40 each and also order more than one at a time.

For example, when I sailed with my parents, at lunch my dad would buy the drinks and in the evening me and my sister would (3 glasses of wine or a bottle of wine and a non-alcoholic drink for me). Rest of the time we would buy the large bottle water offer for the cabin, and occasionally me and my dad would have a midmorning coffee on a sea day. No way as a family of four would we get through £160 of drinks in one day.
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Originally posted by bee-ess
I agree, think they are over complicating it as they often do, too many rules, 15 drinks, 15 mins, no cans, small water only, all too restricting, can't see ordering wine being easy either.
No different than what has been happening on Princess cruises with no problems at all. In fact that is where they have got most if not all their T&Cs from for their drinks package.
#51
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Originally posted by majortom10
No different than what has been happening on Princess cruises with no problems at all. In fact that is where they have got most if not all their T&Cs from for their drinks package.
Haven't had one on Princess, but Celebrity seems much simpler.
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#52
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I dont think P&O are over complicating things. I am sure those that take out the package not many will drink 15 alcoholic drinks in every 24 hr period and I dont think at least 15 minute between drinks is a problem.
#53
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Originally posted by fue-fue
I think ordering wine with your evening meal will restrict you to just 1 glass, how long will it take to find the wine waiter & reorder your 2nd glass of wine.
For our next cruise if would cost us as a couple £2237!!!


This is the going rate on other cruise lines, we’ve just paid nearly £2000 for a drinks package for 2 on a 2 week cruise with Celebrity.


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#54
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Originally posted by leehal
This is the going rate on other cruise lines, we’ve just paid nearly £2000 for a drinks package for 2 on a 2 week cruise with Celebrity.


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Wow that's £70 pppd
#55
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My initial reaction to this was that it's extortionate, however I think will make sense for families like us where the soft drink package for the children is included. I drink a lot of water and prefer branded bottled stuff too so would probably purchase this as we like a few alcoholic drinks in the evenings so would add up to quite a bit.
It doesn't seem to make sense though for those with mismatched drinking habits or light drinkers but I assume it's not aimed at that market.
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#56
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Originally posted by P-L-B
Wow that's £70 pppd
Yes, but the drinks are quite a bit more expensive.
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Originally posted by majortom10
I dont think P&O are over complicating things. I am sure those that take out the package not many will drink 15 alcoholic drinks in every 24 hr period and I dont think at least 15 minute between drinks is a problem.
But, you cannot get a spirit and can of mixer.
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Originally posted by daiB
It occurs to me that the structure of this package is set up to fail. I just cannot see the average cruiser finding this of value. The restrictions mean that if you do spend as much as £40 pppd would it be worth it for all the bother of not drinking exactly what you wanted to drink.


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I agree. As there are restrictions, I would only pay for it if this was compensated for by way of a decent discount on what I would pay if I just did my own thing. In other words, unless our daily drinks spend as a couple was say £90 per day or more, then what’s the incentive? As our daily drinks spend is around one third of that it’s a no brainer for us to ignore it, but I would be concerned that some people may be suckered into it (particularly new cruisers, who may think drinks prices are higher than they are, or don’t appreciate that it would be nigh on impossible to drink that amount on port days). The more I think about it, I can only see this appealing to heavy drinkers and encouraging them to drink even more (to ensure that they get full value from the package) could be an accident waiting to happen!
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Originally posted by Selbourne
I agree. As there are restrictions, I would only pay for it if this was compensated for by way of a decent discount on what I would pay if I just did my own thing. In other words, unless our daily drinks spend as a couple was say £90 per day or more, then what’s the incentive? As our daily drinks spend is around one third of that it’s a no brainer for us to ignore it, but I would be concerned that some people may be suckered into it (particularly new cruisers, who may think drinks prices are higher than they are, or don’t appreciate that it would be nigh on impossible to drink that amount on port days). The more I think about it, I can only see this appealing to heavy drinkers and encouraging them to drink even more (to ensure that they get full value from the package) could be an accident waiting to happen!
There is a brief article in the latest Moments Magazine entitled 'Refreshing food and drink news'
It starts by saying, Quote 'We're constantly listening to your feedback and developing our food and drink menus to offer you more mouthwatering choice etc, etc.
It then goes on to say 'we're giving you unbeatable choice and value with our new Explorer drinks package' etc,etc.
Could have fooled me.
Actually, to be fair the article does go on to say that children under 16 are included in the package.
So as stated before it does appear to favour family groups.
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Originally posted by Selbourne
but I would be concerned that some people may be suckered into it (particularly new cruisers, who may think drinks prices are higher than they are, or don’t appreciate that it would be nigh on impossible to drink that amount on port days).
If our last two cruises are anything to go by, an increasing number of new cruisers do not go ashore on port days. They take the view that they have paid what is effectively AI (minus drinks) and are therefore going to get their money's worth by staying on board. This drinks package would therefore probably appeal. Had this said to me by several people I spoke to on our cruise last year. Seems as though the perceived change in demographics might be affecting sales of shore excursions - seasoned cruisers/the more experienced travellers tend to DIY, new cruisers prefer to stay on board.... a drinks package might help to redress some of the balance. FWIW we won't be taking up the offer either. If we could share a package, yes, but as I mainly drink tap water, tea and the odd cocktail or glass of wine, no way could I drink £40 worth.