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#21
Scotland
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Joined Jul 2012
Originally posted by Julessmiles
LOL! I think we are going on the same cruise next year Wddeni but you are going earlier in the season.... Shame - we would have made a good team! Good to see you booked the Imperial; from what my parents said, you won't be disapointed. (Which cruise itinerary are you doing?)

Hi Jules, I could always hang around and wait for you, few weeks extra at Imperial
We are doing Ancient Wonders on Celebration, first cruise and looking so forward to it..and planning bit is good too
#22
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Originally posted by Wddeni
Hi Jules, I could always hang around and wait for you, few weeks extra at Imperial
We are doing Ancient Wonders on Celebration, first cruise and looking so forward to it..and planning bit is good too
Lol! Ancient Wonders is good - we did all that this year execpt Lesbos. I guarantee you will have no problems with sunbeds at the Imperial. Our first cruise was on Celebration - once you've done one cruise, you'll be hooked and wanting to do more - they are really rather addictive!
#23
Scotland
274 Posts
Joined Jul 2012
Originally posted by Julessmiles
Lol! Ancient Wonders is good - we did all that this year execpt Lesbos. I guarantee you will have no problems with sunbeds at the Imperial. Our first cruise was on Celebration - once you've done one cruise, you'll be hooked and wanting to do more - they are really rather addictive!
Well any info you can provide is welcome, especially regarding DIY trips, that would save a lot of research
#24
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Originally posted by Wddeni
Well any info you can provide is welcome, especially regarding DIY trips, that would save a lot of research
Have done a new thread for you with the things we did and the places we saw - let me know if you have any questions about any of it
#25
Scotland
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Originally posted by Julessmiles
Have done a new thread for you with the things we did and the places we saw - let me know if you have any questions about any of it
fantastic, TY will have a read later
#26
Figheldean
3,104 Posts
Joined Sep 2010
Off on the Dream soon.......my main concern is the sunbed situation, I dont want to spend another sea day sitting on an upturned bucket behind the toilet doors

Why cant Thoms remove the sports deck and make way for more sundeck?

The sports deck on the Dream is huge, enough space to play 5 a side football.....has anyone ever played 5 a side football in there? I have never seen more than one child aimlessly kicking a ball around in that cavernous space while sunbathers are crammed into each others armpits the other side of the net

OK...I guess Thoms will want to advertise as many facilities as possible in the brochure to make it look good....but 5 a side football?!

a small badminton/volley ball court would suffice....put it on that little used bit at the back? no-one will hardly ever use it to play badminton.... so smokers can still use the ashtrays there

some people reserve one sunbed in the sun and another in the shade for later, some even reserve tables and chairs by leaving their sunglasses or books on them.......what would you do? Would you move them if they had been gone for a hour or so? Would you?

its not just the sea day either, it happens in the afternoons when the tours are arriving back (especially in Caribbean) sun beds are packed with towels and books

Rant over
#27
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Originally posted by geomagot
Off on the Dream soon.......my main concern is the sunbed situation, I dont want to spend another sea day sitting on an upturned bucket behind the toilet doors

Why cant Thoms remove the sports deck and make way for more sundeck?

The sports deck on the Dream is huge, enough space to play 5 a side football.....has anyone ever played 5 a side football in there? I have never seen more than one child aimlessly kicking a ball around in that cavernous space while sunbathers are crammed into each others armpits the other side of the net

OK...I guess Thoms will want to advertise as many facilities as possible in the brochure to make it look good....but 5 a side football?!

a small badminton/volley ball court would suffice....put it on that little used bit at the back? no-one will hardly ever use it to play badminton.... so smokers can still use the ashtrays there

some people reserve one sunbed in the sun and another in the shade for later, some even reserve tables and chairs by leaving their sunglasses or books on them.......what would you do? Would you move them if they had been gone for a hour or so? Would you?

its not just the sea day either, it happens in the afternoons when the tours are arriving back (especially in Caribbean) sun beds are packed with towels and books

Rant over
I totally agree with you - sunbeds is my only "gripe" with Thomson - it was definitely worse this year than before and in the height of the summer, I didn't see anyone using the sports deck - I think Thomson should re-look at it and use the sports deck for sunbathing. Fraser Ellacot did answer my query re Sunbeds - not sure if you saw it or not?

http://cruiseforums.cruisecritic.com....php?t=1742131
#28
Kent, England
6,219 Posts
Joined Mar 2008
Originally posted by Julessmiles
I totally agree with you - sunbeds is my only "gripe" with Thomson - it was definitely worse this year than before and in the height of the summer, I didn't see anyone using the sports deck - I think Thomson should re-look at it and use the sports deck for sunbathing. Fraser Ellacot did answer my query re Sunbeds - not sure if you saw it or not?

http://cruiseforums.cruisecritic.com....php?t=1742131
they could replace a lot of sunbeds with chairs as you can get more in the same space. Chairs are better for the expected demographic/body profile anyway as it is tedious having to wait your turn for the block and tackle to be hoisted off the bed.
#29
Figheldean
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Joined Sep 2010
Originally posted by Julessmiles
Fraser Ellacot did answer my query re Sunbeds - not sure if you saw it or not?

http://cruiseforums.cruisecritic.com....php?t=1742131
yep I did see that and I'm glad you put that Q to them...bit vague on the answer tho??

(while I can't tell you exactly what the solution will be, I can reassure you that we are going to do something about it.)

What sort of solution can there be??

I agree with you that the problem does seem to be getting worse....especially in Caribbean....to look up and see all that space netted off and unavailable just rubs more salt in
#30
UK
1,206 Posts
Joined Mar 2012
Just a thought .... although FE said there will be another Q&A at some point in the future and that staff look at the forum on a regular basis etc etc its a shame that as they are being so co-operatve with us and do seem to want to try and help that we cant set up a small committee that does a round up of the top ten gripes every 3 months or so and has some way of getting these to FE for some up to date answers.

Would also be nice to see how things are going with all the topics we were promised would be sorted in some way. save all the speculation when things are possibly being remedied.

If this was just one person or a small group with one spokes person and it stayed sensible i think it would be a real benefit if Thomsons would agree to it ?????

What does everyone else think ??
Small group being Geomagot and Sailaway perhaps .......
#31
Figheldean
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Joined Sep 2010
In principle it sounds like a fab idea.... summarise all the hot trending topics every now and then (gripes and positives alike....I think it is important that we let them know what they are doing well also) (sez I who's been griping all day?) and then somehow to send this summary to the company for their (straight from the horses mouth) comments

it would be mutually beneficial from their point of view too, they are always looking for good accurate feedback from their clients....its like gold dust to big companies

Unfortunately it's v difficult, because members of the industry are not allowed to post on these boards without permission from the moderators, I guess we could send by private message but TBO that would just be circumventing the rules

It’s a shame really….because Thoms have no option to be able to respond to our discussions here however much they may like to
#32
Canvey Island, Essex
373 Posts
Joined May 2010
Originally posted by Sailaway487
I have noticed that they have began to start issuing more tickets onto sunbeds, warning people about reserving sunbeds, but I have yet to see the rule of removing belongings be enforced..
I saw it in June this year, and the attendant walked up and placed a ticket on the sun bed, and then came back looked at the ticket, there was still no sign of anyone and they had taken 4 sun loungers, and then on about the third time round, out came this basket all the belongings were packed into this basket i have to be honest amid others cheering and clapping and then it was removed to reception.

Of course other people got on the beds and then about 4 hours later up comes the original "sun bed hoggers" and of course they were rather perplexed as to why these people were in "their sun loungers" and where had their towels and books ect gone, it did get quite heated at times, but eventually the attendent came round and told them that all their stuff was in reception, they were quite cross and outraged as well.

Serves them right me thinks
#33
Figheldean
3,104 Posts
Joined Sep 2010
Yep perhaps they should have someone on deck putting timers on the beds....trouble is the original hoggers will eventually come back and may cause a scene.....not what you want when you are trying to relax

I have to admit DD's have removed peoples stuff in the past and sat themselves down....when the hoggers came back, the girls just smiled sweetly (in their teen butter wouldn’t melt way) and said 'Honestly, there wasn’t anyone here when we sat down'...but my girls have got the neck, they are experts at staying one step ahead of the adults, and they love a good debacle anyway....they will film it and put it on utube
#34
UK
1,206 Posts
Joined Mar 2012
Originally posted by geomagot
In principle it sounds like a fab idea.... summarise all the hot trending topics every now and then (gripes and positives alike....I think it is important that we let them know what they are doing well also) (sez I who's been griping all day?) and then somehow to send this summary to the company for their (straight from the horses mouth) comments

it would be mutually beneficial from their point of view too, they are always looking for good accurate feedback from their clients....its like gold dust to big companies

Unfortunately it's v difficult, because members of the industry are not allowed to post on these boards without permission from the moderators, I guess we could send by private message but TBO that would just be circumventing the rules

It’s a shame really….because Thoms have no option to be able to respond to our discussions here however much they may like to
Ah, shame, if you do think of a way around it let us all know . Thought id hit on a good one there, never mind
#35
2,784 Posts
Joined Jul 2009
Originally posted by geomagot
yep I did see that and I'm glad you put that Q to them...bit vague on the answer tho??

(while I can't tell you exactly what the solution will be, I can reassure you that we are going to do something about it.)

What sort of solution can there be??

I agree with you that the problem does seem to be getting worse....especially in Caribbean....to look up and see all that space netted off and unavailable just rubs more salt in
Maybe, just maybe they are going to un-net the sports decks & put more beds out there - I read somewhere (can't remember if it was here or elsewhere) of someone who has just returned from one of the ships and said that the sports deck was blocked off and they were unable to use it.....
#36
Figheldean
3,104 Posts
Joined Sep 2010
Perhaps Thoms should put up some/plenty of, large/obvious notices warning people that their stuff will be removed after 1hour/45 mins/30 mins?

We are off on the Dream soon....with 6 consecutive sea days......I guess the sunbed issue will be on hell of a debacle for 6 days in a row - or is itthat the Atlantic weather is not so good for sunbathing? anyone know?
#37
Co. Durham
2,643 Posts
Joined Mar 2012
Originally posted by geomagot
Perhaps Thoms should put up some/plenty of, large/obvious notices warning people that their stuff will be removed after 1hour/45 mins/30 mins?

We are off on the Dream soon....with 6 consecutive sea days......I guess the sunbed issue will be on hell of a debacle for 6 days in a row - or is itthat the Atlantic weather is not so good for sunbathing? anyone know?
The notices would be an excellent idea but IMO would only work if their stuff was actually removed by someone with the specific authority to do so. Why should people on holiday, supposedly relaxing, have the stress of removing articles and then worrying about the consequences when their owners return?
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#38
Dorset, UK
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Joined Feb 2008
I think there are two aspects to this - 1. providing more sunbeds especially at peak times and 2. ensuring those that are available aren't 'hogged' for hours by absent passengers.

One solution which has already been suggested is to use the sports area which at best only provides a facility for a very small number of passengers for short periods of time but as an extra sundeck especially at peak times could perhaps provide a facility for an extra 100+? passengers (depending on the capacity of the sun deck area). This is a good idea but a shame that even the few youngsters who might want the sports deck don't have that available to them. But in the absence of any other solution is perhaps the best idea to date in terms finding extra space.

But this could be totally unnecessary if the 'hogging' issue was resolved for once and all.

So, this might sound very controversial but I think a 'Zero tolerance' policy of saving sunbeds is the way forward i.e. it's not acceptable at all. Except - a toilet break would be fine when a partner/neighbouring cruiser could verify to Thomson 'deck patrols' (designated sunbed wardens! ) that you've literally only gone for 10 minutes or so and the warden puts a sticker on the lounger with the time on it.

But apart from that, lunch breaks or anything similar you should vacate the bed and take everything with you. If everyone did this there would be plenty of beds available so when you come back there would be another bed to choose from - granted perhaps not in your absolutely favourite area but at least there would be something. You only need to walk the deck to see 50/60/70% of beds at certain times are unoccupied but with towels on so there isn't actually a shortage of beds - just beds that aren't being saved.

If you want to sun all day you could choose your spot for the morning, go have lunch then find somewhere else for the afternoon. If you want to do something else, go off the ship, go to a lecture whatever - then that's your choice for that moment in the day's schedule and you can't reasonably expect to be 'holding' a facility when you're not using it or have any intention of doing so (how can you if you're off the ship - but it happens!). It's selfishness in the extreme.

This issue doesn't actually affect me much as I can't sit in the sun a lot - if I want to have half an hour and find all beds have towels or are occupied, I just remove the towel on one (where there is obviously not a partner in attendance) and stay as long as i want and if anyone returned, I'd give up the bed to them (not wanting to cause a problem) but for me that works ok as I'm usually happy enough to move off after an hour or so anyway. Incidentally I've never had to give the bed up when I've done this because the 'hogger' has never turned up in the period I was 'borrowing' the bed!! So that says a lot!

Just a thought from someone who hasn't got much of an agenda with this one as it doesn't affect me a lot - but I nevertheless have a heightened sense of fairness and get very indignant when I think people are being inconsiderate at the least or totally selfish and anti-social at worst.

So, do you think that could work?
#39
Kent, England
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Joined Mar 2008
You should see the trouble solos have. no toilet break with someone saving your place for you

beds should be hi tek with slots for your cruise card. Any bed without a card in the slot is free even if someone is occupying it. cards in unoccupied beds can be removed and disposed of. A charge of £20 is applied to get a new card. people with balconies will find the beds reject their cards, go sit on your balcony

the only way to stop this nonsense is for a more proactive response from everyone. If people just moved stuff and sat down the perpetrators would soon get the message. The agro would be fun to watch as well

On majesty port days they could open the focsle deck, no safety issues there.
#40
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Originally posted by kruzseeka
I think there are two aspects to this - 1. providing more sunbeds especially at peak times and 2. ensuring those that are available aren't 'hogged' for hours by absent passengers.

One solution which has already been suggested is to use the sports area which at best only provides a facility for a very small number of passengers for short periods of time but as an extra sundeck especially at peak times could perhaps provide a facility for an extra 100+? passengers (depending on the capacity of the sun deck area). This is a good idea but a shame that even the few youngsters who might want the sports deck don't have that available to them. But in the absence of any other solution is perhaps the best idea to date in terms finding extra space.

But this could be totally unnecessary if the 'hogging' issue was resolved for once and all.

So, this might sound very controversial but I think a 'Zero tolerance' policy of saving sunbeds is the way forward i.e. it's not acceptable at all. Except - a toilet break would be fine when a partner/neighbouring cruiser could verify to Thomson 'deck patrols' (designated sunbed wardens! ) that you've literally only gone for 10 minutes or so and the warden puts a sticker on the lounger with the time on it.

But apart from that, lunch breaks or anything similar you should vacate the bed and take everything with you. If everyone did this there would be plenty of beds available so when you come back there would be another bed to choose from - granted perhaps not in your absolutely favourite area but at least there would be something. You only need to walk the deck to see 50/60/70% of beds at certain times are unoccupied but with towels on so there isn't actually a shortage of beds - just beds that aren't being saved.

If you want to sun all day you could choose your spot for the morning, go have lunch then find somewhere else for the afternoon. If you want to do something else, go off the ship, go to a lecture whatever - then that's your choice for that moment in the day's schedule and you can't reasonably expect to be 'holding' a facility when you're not using it or have any intention of doing so (how can you if you're off the ship - but it happens!). It's selfishness in the extreme.

This issue doesn't actually affect me much as I can't sit in the sun a lot - if I want to have half an hour and find all beds have towels or are occupied, I just remove the towel on one (where there is obviously not a partner in attendance) and stay as long as i want and if anyone returned, I'd give up the bed to them (not wanting to cause a problem) but for me that works ok as I'm usually happy enough to move off after an hour or so anyway. Incidentally I've never had to give the bed up when I've done this because the 'hogger' has never turned up in the period I was 'borrowing' the bed!! So that says a lot!

Just a thought from someone who hasn't got much of an agenda with this one as it doesn't affect me a lot - but I nevertheless have a heightened sense of fairness and get very indignant when I think people are being inconsiderate at the least or totally selfish and anti-social at worst.

So, do you think that could work?
Kruzseeka...you have done it again.
It would work most of the time except in the case of solo travellers as Dave has pointed out.
Not sure if it would work when large groups of people travel together and make a circle of sunbeds.....I wouldn't feel brave enough to break into that.
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