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#21
Cocoa Beach, FL
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Originally posted by Ocean Boy
I guess we all have different needs and desires. RCI still meets mine well..... except the pizza is still BAD!
It's getting better

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#22
Graham, WA
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Joined May 2009
Originally posted by Ocean Boy
I guess we all have different needs and desires. RCI still meets mine well..... except the pizza is still BAD!
Cruise out of Bayonne and hit Juliana's in Brooklyn before you leave....pizza problem solved
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#23
Rhode Island, U.S.A.
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Originally posted by Husky1987
Cruise out of Bayonne and hit Juliana's in Brooklyn before you leave....pizza problem solved
I can drive 10 minutes to my mother's house.....
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#25
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Joined Nov 2017
Originally posted by Zach1213
No point in being loyal to a company, they're not going to be loyal to you. I don't cruise much, but I do travel for a living, and while I am still somewhat loyal to a specific airline/alliance and hotel chain, it's much less than it was even five years ago. I need to do what's best and most convenient for me, because in the end of the day that airline and that hotel chain (and that cruise company) don't give a damn about me.
THIS.

I laugh every time I read "I'm loyal to Royal." Instead they might as well say "I'm a sucker."

If you think any company is loyal to anything other than their bottom line, you're delusional.
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#26
Cocoa Beach, FL
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Originally posted by Ocean Boy
No it isn't.
Oasis is palatable. But then again we tip the pizza crew in Sorrento

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#27
Central Illinois
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Originally posted by Ocean Boy
I can drive 10 minutes to my mother's house.....
Enjoy, you are very fortunate, I can't do that anymore.
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#28
Portland, Oregon
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Try Princess or celebrity as it sounds like you are bored and tired of Royal. Good luck!


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#29
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Originally posted by John&LaLa
Oasis is palatable. But then again we tip the pizza crew in Sorrento

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I only eat pizza on Oasis if I'm drinking at one of the bars close by and need a snack to hold me over until my "real" dinner.

That's really all Sorrento's is good for. That, and children.

If anyone walks into that place expecting a quality lunch or dinner, your expectations are completely out of whack and you're going to have a miserable dining experience during your cruise.
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#30
St Petersburg, Florida
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Originally posted by Margarita Cruisequeen
We've been cruising for 20 years and all but 3 times have been with RCCL. To say the least, we've been very loyal and introduced many of our friends to RCCL. We sailed on January 27th on Harmony of the Seas and due to health issues, this was our first cruise in 3 years. The ship was beautiful and clean, the crew was friendly and helpful but the whole dining experience was very disappointing. Over the years we've noticed changes, of course, but what a difference 3 years has made! Back in the "good old days" the dining was elegant, food was delicious and presentation impeccable. Gone are the days when we would have a drink on our table when we arrived and the bar waiter would pass our table frequently. At the end of the meal, we would have the opportunity to have the after-dinner-drink of the day and who could pass these up in the pretty little glasses? The food served was so delicious there was no need to pay extra for eating in a special place on board. In fact, as I recall, there were no separate restaurants. On formal nights there was either a pianist or string quartet, and other nights as well. Our last night on the Harmony, I swear my selection was a frozen dinner! And don't even get me started of the lack of dress code. Are we the only ones objecting to this and should we just move on to another cruise line for older and stuffier cruisers?
Dont feel bad. You are not alone. Just got off the FReedom and experience the same thing. They have a new policy now at the dining room that you order all at once and have to leave right away. You are not able to stay and chat like before because they allow less time to serve. Also the shows are mostly at the same time as you are having dinner. You have to just rush and get out. Diamond Plus member have no benefits and treated very poorly. Now is just Pinnacles that count. Also bar prices and everything had just gone up two weeks before according to them. Me, Now I feel I have choices and get treated better somewhere else. RCL had been trying to cut too much at the same time and they were a lot of complains on board. Very sad. They do not realize that once you try and like some other cruise line, they loose you. Or.....maybe they just do not care.
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#31
Margate, Florida
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Originally posted by Margarita Cruisequeen
We've been cruising for 20 years and all but 3 times have been with RCCL. To say the least, we've been very loyal and introduced many of our friends to RCCL. We sailed on January 27th on Harmony of the Seas and due to health issues, this was our first cruise in 3 years. The ship was beautiful and clean, the crew was friendly and helpful but the whole dining experience was very disappointing. Over the years we've noticed changes, of course, but what a difference 3 years has made! Back in the "good old days" the dining was elegant, food was delicious and presentation impeccable. Gone are the days when we would have a drink on our table when we arrived and the bar waiter would pass our table frequently. At the end of the meal, we would have the opportunity to have the after-dinner-drink of the day and who could pass these up in the pretty little glasses? The food served was so delicious there was no need to pay extra for eating in a special place on board. In fact, as I recall, there were no separate restaurants. On formal nights there was either a pianist or string quartet, and other nights as well. Our last night on the Harmony, I swear my selection was a frozen dinner! And don't even get me started of the lack of dress code. Are we the only ones objecting to this and should we just move on to another cruise line for older and stuffier cruisers?

Our cruising life began 14 years ago, in 2004. By 2010, the dining experiences had changed greatly on Royal. Gone was the French Service. Gone was the attention to detail by many of the wait staff -- remembering what drink each cruiser would order and have it at their setting when you arrived or how you liked your coffee or tea, night after night. Gone were the chocolate mints on your pillow each night.

Things have changed....but so have things for the better (IMO) with more things to do and greater choices of entertainment across the cruise line. Some ships offer a Broadway show that you can enjoy, or waterslides. It is about choices....so for for us, with all the changes that can be looked at as 'I wish these things hadn't changed' to those other changes 'that make it more interesting for us to cruise with Royal' we stay loyal to Royal.

What I can say has also changed and not necessarily for the better......cruisers have changed. More rude and nasty cruisers who almost pick arguments with staff over things that the staff member has no control over --- but those people do the same thing at restaurants or other places when they are at home. SAD to say.
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#32
Dallas, Texas
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Joined May 2003
Originally posted by Husky1987
Cruise out of Bayonne and hit Juliana's in Brooklyn before you leave....pizza problem solved
I lived about a mile from there, lots of great pizza in the area.
#33
Cocoa Beach, FL
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Originally posted by CruisingNole
I only eat pizza on Oasis if I'm drinking at one of the bars close by and need a snack to hold me over until my "real" dinner.

That's really all Sorrento's is good for. That, and children.

If anyone walks into that place expecting a quality lunch or dinner, your expectations are completely out of whack and you're going to have a miserable dining experience during your cruise.
If you can wait 10 minutes have them build one from scratch. Extra sauce extra cheese, and make sure they cook it longer than usual.

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#35
Cocoa Beach, FL
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Joined Oct 2004
Originally posted by SelfCheckoutGuy
Ahhh this is the Cruise Critic I know and love. If only we could have a chair hog, and tipping argument added to this....
Those could both be arguments about why they won't cruise Royal. Bring it on.

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#36
East Coast - United States
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Joined Feb 2017
I would recommend if you want a more personalized experience to try one of Royal's smaller ships. In my opinion, if you are looking to be catered to, you wont find it on the larger ships.
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#37
Wichita Falls, Texas
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Originally posted by OCruisers
Sounds like you need to try another cruise line ... maybe Princess or Celebrity.
You can always go back to RCCL if it turns out you like it better.
I doubt another cruise line is the solution. We as a society have changed and the cruise lines merely adapt. A significant number of people don't want to dress up for dinner, not even at a fancy restaurant. For a primer on how cruising used to be take a trip on the Empress and even after an extensive dry dock see how small the rooms are. I sure remember the days of the thin well-worn mattresses and don't honestly remember the food as being so great.
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#38
Summerville, SC
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You can have a cruise experience very much like what the style was 20 plus years ago, but not on a mass market line. Even Celebrity (as much as we like their product) ain't going to get you there. You would need to step up a few more rungs on the ladder.
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#39
Canada
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Joined May 2010
Originally posted by ariesknowbest
I feel the same way about cruising the Mass Market cruise lines. I call them WalMart on Water. I am a Diamond Plus Member and will probably never cruise on RCCL again.....subpar food, service and experience. Not worth my vacation time.
You won't be getting any of the D+ perks except with Celebrity. I think you may find that they will be missed unless you are going with a luxury line
#40
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Originally posted by Don Pedro
I doubt another cruise line is the solution. We as a society have changed and the cruise lines merely adapt. A significant number of people don't want to dress up for dinner, not even at a fancy restaurant.
I like to consider myself young, I'm 35, and one of the things we LIKE about RC are the formal nights. That's right, born in the 1980's, and we LIKE to dress up! You are absolutely correct that society has gotten lazy. We think it's nice to have an excuse to dress up now and then and be around others who are as well. Not to mention, it makes for great photo opportunities.

We're both business professionals and things have gotten so lax in the corporate world that I've seen people wear clothes to the office that I would deem unacceptable for the RC dining room (if I could enforce a dress code).
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