Hooray ! Splendour is Going

#21
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I'm a huge fan of Oasis class - and have found them less crowded than the other classes. However I think it would be a real shame to see all the smaller ships disappear if for no other reason than the fact that they can get into ports which the big ones just can't get to. It will be a shame if, in the future, every itinerary contains the same limited number of ports simply because the ships are so big they can only go to those same ports.

We had a wonderful cruise on Azamara last year and would go back with them in a heartbeat if the prices weren't so high, simply because we were able to call into ports which the larger ships can't do.
#22
Madrid/Marbella, Spain / Naples, FL
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Splendour was actually sold to TUI Cruises who will in turn lease her to the Island Cruises brand of Thomson Cruises, which is one of 3 cruise lines operated by TUI AG their holding company.

TUI Cruises is partially owned through joint venture by RCL, the holding company that wholly owns RCI, Celebrity and Azamara.

In turn, they partially own the Splendour.

TUI Cruises has 5 additional new mid-size ships on order to add to their current fleet of 3 and all will be delivered one each year over the next five years. Two of their ships are former Celebrity ships and they have one new build delivered last year.

TUI AG also partially owns Thomson Cruises and Hapag-Lloyd Cruises, where RCL are not directly involved.

The Splendour will replace the only current ship operated by Island Cruises, the Island Escape.

The Island Escape was operated for years by RCI as the Viking Serenade between 1990 and 2002 and it is fitting that she will be replaced by a RCI ship, Splendour.

Viking Serenade was owned during this time by Norwegian, Wilh. Wilhelmsen Holding ASA and leased to RCI in a similar relationship.

Wilh. Wilhelmsen Holding ASA has always been one of the largest owners of Royal Caribbean.
#23
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Originally posted by Stateroom_Sailor
Yeah, if it limits RCL's itineraries, I'm not in favor of "the ship is the destination" at all.
Good point - the new big ships have limited ports that suck. We have no interest whatsoever in Oasis or Allure for that reason.

Don't know why anyone would be "happy" to see a ship go.......
#24
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Originally posted by Ocean Boy
I was pretty socked for a minute that Serenade would be going anywhere. The Radiance class ships are very popular!
The Vision class is extremely popular with some.

Those fantastic aft corner JS terraces are among the best available in the RCI fleet and add in my 'secret' stairway up to the spa and solarium and I am all set.

These are very well designed ships and among the best in their class.
#25
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Originally posted by darthgrady
i wish they'd trade off a few of the oasis and quantum class ships instead.
yes, yes and yes!!!!!!!
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What strikes me as funny is that we now consider ships the size of Splendour to be "small" ships! I remember when the Vision class were launched they were some of the largest and most luxurious oceangoing passenger vessels ever built. It's funny how things have changed in 20 years! When the Vision and Radiance class ships leave the RCCL fleet for good, so will I. I am not interested in cruising at a suburban shopping mall at sea.

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Ive sailed on Brilliance and Liberty, and enjoyed my overall experience on Brilliance much more. Going on Adventure in October and am hoping it is a good mix of my two other experiences. I cant imagine Royal getting rid of Radiance ships anytime soon. Cant speak about ships smaller than that.
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#28
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Originally posted by DutchCruiseFan
Have you ever sailed on the smaller ships?
Because they're amazing and a lot of people will miss them.
Yes I have several times. I know many people will miss them, but this thread is just my view
#29
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Originally posted by DarthGrady
I wish they'd trade off a few of the Oasis and Quantum class ships instead.
Agree with you!!! Love the smaller and mid-size ships.
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Originally posted by scottamiller
What strikes me as funny is that we now consider ships the size of Splendour to be "small" ships! I remember when the Vision class were launched they were some of the largest and most luxurious oceangoing passenger vessels ever built. It's funny how things have changed in 20 years! When the Vision and Radiance class ships leave the RCCL fleet for good, so will I. I am not interested in cruising at a suburban shopping mall at sea.
I think it is just RCI passengers that refer to them as 'small-ships' due to the development of Oasis. I classify them as 'mid-size' as small ship designates 'luxury' for me. The soon to premier Viking Star is a small ship.

Yes, it was the development of another Serenade, the Silja Serenade passenger ferry that first brought us the 'promenade' in 1990 that was eventually developed into RCI's Voyager and Freedom class ships built at the same shipyard. When I am onboard these ships it is amazing how much they have the same feel as the Scandinavian passenger ferries that were their inspiration, especially if staying in a promenade cabin.

I do understand the popularity of the large ships, but sure hope RCI will keep or develop 'mid-size' ships as well.
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Originally posted by delirious9876
No, I hadn't hoped to cause confusion and I resent your assumption that I posted for this negative reason.

You are well off the mark in your assumption about me wanting to cause confusion.

I am simply glad (IMHO) that the smaller ships are going. I don't like them and it'll make more room to keep the bigger better ones (IMHO) coming.
I for one, tend to agree with you. it could be that the time will come that RC spins off all the small ones (relative term) to focus on the bigger ships. it's just evolution. It is difficult to be all things to all people.
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#32
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Originally posted by DarthGrady
I wish they'd trade off a few of the Oasis and Quantum class ships instead.
....me too.....love the smaller ships, loathe the huge factory ships......
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My non-argument comment seems to have gotten caught up in the argument purge from this thread. SMH
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Originally posted by John&LaLa
I for one, tend to agree with you. it could be that the time will come that RC spins off all the small ones (relative term) to focus on the bigger ships. it's just evolution. It is difficult to be all things to all people.
This is true. Anytime you make a big changes, you attract new customers and alienate old ones at the same time. If RCL is being pulled in too many different directions, and all are profitable, creating a 3rd mass market cruise line may not be a bad idea either?
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Originally posted by bouhunter
Good point - the new big ships have limited ports that suck. We have no interest whatsoever in Oasis or Allure for that reason.

Don't know why anyone would be "happy" to see a ship go.......
These the the ports that Oasis and Allure visit, through next year:

Ft. Lauderdale
Nassau
St. Thomas
St. Maarten
Labadee
Falmouth
Cozumel
Barcelona, Spain
Malaga, Spain
Rome
Naples, Italy
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#37
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Sorry to see any RCCL ship leave the fleet. I would still sail on Sovereign and Monarch in a heart beat. If they still sailed out of FL that is, I know the ships are still out there.
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Originally posted by John&LaLa
I for one, tend to agree with you. it could be that the time will come that RC spins off all the small ones (relative term) to focus on the bigger ships. it's just evolution. It is difficult to be all things to all people.
Thank you John&LaLa
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My DH and I sailed out of Venice last fall on the Splendour, and we loved every minute on it. I personally love the "smaller" ships. We'll be sailing on the Brilliance in April. Can't wait!
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[quote=MADflyer;45894101]Splendour was actually sold to TUI Cruises who will in turn lease her to the Island Cruises brand of Thomson Cruises, which is one of 3 cruise lines operated by TUI AG their holding company.

TUI Cruises is partially owned through joint venture by RCL, the holding company that wholly owns RCI, Celebrity and Azamara.

In turn, they partially own the Splendour.

TUI Cruises has 5 additional new mid-size ships on order to add to their current fleet of 3 and all will be delivered one each year over the next five years. Two of their ships are former Celebrity ships and they have one new build delivered last year.

TUI AG also partially owns Thomson Cruises and Hapag-Lloyd Cruises, where RCL are not directly involved.

The Splendour will replace the only current ship operated by Island Cruises, the Island Escape.

The Island Escape was operated for years by RCI as the Viking Serenade between 1990 and 2002 and it is fitting that she will be replaced by a RCI ship, Splendour.

Viking Serenade was owned during this time by Norwegian, Wilh. Wilhelmsen Holding ASA and leased to RCI in a similar relationship.

Wilh. Wilhelmsen Holding ASA has always been one of the largest owners of Royal Caribbean.[/quote
Thank you for all the information and the ship will still be sailing albeit under another name.