Jeans in the dining room and other last minute attire questions

I’m not the fashion police. When I retired, I wanted no part of suit and tie. But I understand that looking better than a t shirt and jeans shows respect for fellow diners, and respect for the cruising experience. If we need a more casual experience after a busy port, or because we just feel like we don’t need the more formal multi course spread in the MDR, there’s always the Lido. I thought that when HAL changed to smart casual, similar to many work environments, it was an improvement, and recognition of changing norms. There are other losses of cruise tradition, like specialty nights in the MDR and waiters on the Promenade deck. But, we keep cruising HAL because of the balance. Mostly what people wear is their own business, but I do think that a little effort goes a long way to show respect for fellow table mates.

 

 

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For MANY years, I wore the gowns and DH , the tuxedos NOT now. I would not dream of lugging a gown to a ship these days. Now, at the most, a cocktail dress, silk or crepe pants or skirt. tasteful blous,e, top, n ice shoes. and evening bag. Works fine for me and seems to be satisfactory to most.

I’m not the fashion police. When I retired, I wanted no part of suit and tie. But I understand that looking better than a t shirt and jeans shows respect for fellow diners, and respect for the cruising experience.

I think you've got the matter of respect backwards. One cannot legitimately expect respect if they aren't willing to give respect, and that respect we all must give includes acknowledging the actual dress code and what it actually requires, and as a result acknowledging that, for example, someone wearing brand new jeans in the dining room on smart casual night *is* showing respect for fellow diners, and respect for the cruising experience.

 

I wear slacks and a button down dress shirt on smart casual nights. Those wearing jeans aren't underdressed. I am overdressed.

 

 

 

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The dress code police are a legend /authority in their own minds..and only exist on the HAL boards here.

 

 

 

Ha! Check out Cunard's discussions sometime! Lord have mercy!

 

 

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Ha! Check out Cunard's discussions sometime! Lord have mercy!

 

 

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I can believe that;there are a few(operative word being "few', but they're vocal)that would have HAL be a clone of Cunard. No thanks.;)

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I can believe that;there are a few(operative word being "few', but they're vocal)that would have HAL be a clone of HAL. No thanks.;)

 

 

HUH ?:confused:

 

 

 

" HAL b e a clone

 

 

of HAL ? "

Thank you to those of you who simply stated HAL's policy without interjecting your opinion.

 

And the really cool thing about this is that you could have found this same information yourself on HAL's website, and in their 'Know Before You Go' booklet. ;)

 

 

Doing this (simple) research yourself would have avoided stirring up the 'wrath' of folks on these boards... as this topic always does.

And the really cool thing about this is that you could have found this same information yourself on HAL's website, and in their 'Know Before You Go' booklet. ;)

 

 

Doing this (simple) research yourself would have avoided stirring up the 'wrath' of folks on these boards... as this topic always does.

 

 

 

I have seen no 'wrath' in this thread, and wonder about the reference to such?

Dress code threads *absolutelty*set people off.Holy Berzerk button,Batman! I don't doubt that a simple question about dress codes has scared a lot of people off as a result.

And the really cool thing about this is that you could have found this same information yourself on HAL's website, and in their 'Know Before You Go' booklet. ;)

 

 

Doing this (simple) research yourself would have avoided stirring up the 'wrath' of folks on these boards... as this topic always does.

Given the fact that there is frequently a difference between the rules that HAL publishes on its website and their application/interpretation aboard ship, I'd argue that the OP was wise to seek additional information on CC to establish the current reality of the situation.

Given the fact that there is frequently a difference between the rules that HAL publishes on its website and their application/interpretation aboard ship, I'd argue that the OP was wise to seek additional information on CC to establish the current reality of the situation.

 

I'd say it's a double edged sword, at best.Around here, there IS such a thing as a "stupid question":confused:

I wear slacks and a button down dress shirt on smart casual nights. Those wearing jeans aren't underdressed. I am overdressed.

 

No one will ever be considered overdressed when wearing slacks and a button down shirt unless acting in a porn movie. ;p;p;p

Given the fact that there is frequently a difference between the rules that HAL publishes on its website and their application/interpretation aboard ship, I'd argue that the OP was wise to seek additional information on CC to establish the current reality of the situation.

 

Good point - with the vagaries of "suggested" as opposed to "required" attire - and the unlikelihood of enforcement, "field research" conducted by polling people with experience makes sense.

No one will ever be considered overdressed when wearing slacks and a button down shirt unless acting in a porn movie. ;p;p;p

 

Great. Now, whenever I see someone in slacks and a button-down shirt, I will be thinking boom-chicka-wow-wah.

I have seen no 'wrath' in this thread, and wonder about the reference to such?

 

It's in the tone of several posts in this thread, not difficult to see at all.

^This. Another dress code thread, and the opinions come out..and boy are they..opinionated.Nothing new.Nothing to see here.Heh.

It's in the tone of several posts in this thread, not difficult to see at all.

I agree.

 

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Given the fact that there is frequently a difference between the rules that HAL publishes on its website and their application/interpretation aboard ship, I'd argue that the OP was wise to seek additional information on CC to establish the current reality of the situation.

 

Yeah, like one can hang their hat on the 'additional information' they read on these threads, as if it was gospel...right.:rolleyes:

A busy Thread, I see. Just got off the Eurodam on Saturday, surely saw all dress codes worn in the MDR, even the Pinnacle. Saw one person wearing jean shorts, flip-flops and polo shirt to dinner. Fine with everyone it seemed....

I think that some people have a real problem with jeans in particular jeans in the dining room.

 

Perhaps they don't get out much or do not live in an urban area and have the opportunity to see the changing styles.

Denim tends to stretch between washings. Jeans fit and look different after wearing a few times than they did right after they were washed and dried. They’re not such a great choice for travel. Other types of trousers are more consistent in how they look and fit between washings.

Yeah, like one can hang their hat on the 'additional information' they read on these threads, as if it was gospel...right.:rolleyes:

 

A busy Thread, I see. Just got off the Eurodam on Saturday, surely saw all dress codes worn in the MDR, even the Pinnacle. Saw one person wearing jean shorts, flip-flops and polo shirt to dinner. Fine with everyone it seemed....

As I said, there's what HAL says on its website (that some apparently take as Gospel) and then there's the reality of what passengers actually experience aboard.

Some t-shirts for the kids are just as dressy nowadays as polos. There are nice striped and dressier t-shirts that many kids have worn in the MDR without a problem. The kids sometimes leave the MDR after they are done eating to go to the kids area so having to change out of really dressy clothes is a waste of time and effort. It is a vacation so no need to make the kids uncomfortable wearing something they wouldn't normally and possibly ruining your night. Let the kids be kids and enjoy their vacation as well. Have a wonderful trip!

 

FYI-You will get eye rolls just for having a kid on a Holland America cruise as we have many times before so it really doesn't matter what they wear :)

This is my first cruise and I was really looking forward to gala night, I even bought a new long evening dress for it. Now I'm wondering if it is even worth packing it!

This is my first cruise and I was really looking forward to gala night, I even bought a new long evening dress for it. Now I'm wondering if it is even worth packing it!

 

If that is what you were planning to do take it. Much depends on where you are going. I am going to Alaska and it sounds as if not as many people dress up real fancy. Go for it. Even where I live, casual Maui, we see all types in fine dining places. Some dress really fancy, and others look like they just came off of the beach. Lol