Is Noro still a problem on the Feb.3 Marina cruise,anyone??

Have read on thread about last cruise dealing with it. Said they would sanitize whole ship prior to next cruise,,,so wonder exactly how it worked. Taking Feb 13 one and am worried. Poster was critical about how staff was handling it. Also, others asked for compensation due to limits onboard,like library closed,etc. Please let us know.

I think the cruise lines cover themselves pretty well in regards to all facilities being available on any particular sailing. There are a number of reasons one venue or another might be closed and I would be surprised if that would be a basis for compensation.

Was it confirmed to be norovirus?

I know of no one claiming compensation.If they do,please let me know.

Closed library for compensation???.

Funny how the golfing,alcohol lovers and gamblers had a great time all through the 10 days of sanitisation,

Ok. now I m the confused one, wasnt it you who posted this?On the Marina Now thread. So it was sNEVER confirmed to be noro?Didnt a person post that they wanted compensation?problem with excess medical charge?

Still would like to know if ANY sort of probs. being noticed on this Feb.3 cruise,,,??Get on Feb.13 and am worried.

On now with Minor (IMO) disruptions.

No salt and pepper shakers in Terrace only.

Paper menus in all restaurants. Some of us actually like those better.

Meats cooked to order.

I believe the library cabinets are still locked.

Executive lounge is open.

We were told last night at dinner things would be returning to normal after 48hrs if no new cases were reported.

Staff seem to be in good spirits.

Only problem is the 48 hrs of rain......

Ok. now I m the confused one, wasnt it you who posted this?On the Marina Now thread. So it was sNEVER confirmed to be noro?Didnt a person post that they wanted compensation?problem with excess medical charge?

 

Still would like to know if ANY sort of probs. being noticed on this Feb.3 cruise,,,??Get on Feb.13 and am worried.

I think Oceania always avoids the use of the word ’norovirus’. They seem to always say ‘gastro-intestinal’ or ‘GI’ instead!

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I think Oceania always avoids the use of the word ’norovirus’. They seem to always say ‘gastro-intestinal’ or ‘GI’ instead!

 

 

 

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Yup. Be nice if they told the truth once in a while.

Yup. Be nice if they told the truth once in a while.

Exactly.I agree.We were told originally when the changes started happening,that it was because we had just left Easter Island and they didn’t want any ‘bugs’.That was 24hrs AFTER we left.

I have never said it was norovirus as it was never confirmed.

Having restrictions for 48 hours is what other cruise ships do anyway!

We are thinking of writing to someone (not sure who,any ideas.?) regards the lack of info etc and also the launderette being closed but casino open.We had alot of rain and were soaked through on a number of occasions with nowhere to dry anything.The staff were told to remove any clothes left on balconies to dry.We had no line in our bathroom.

Chuckle, so does Regent like to call it Gastro....go over to the Regent forum, and read their Noro thread going on now.... Quite interesting how Regent and folks like to distinguish it! LOL! We were on a Regent Cruise last year, and quite a folks had flu like symptoms and severe gastro....not once did the word Noro pop up from the ship!

Chuckle, so does Regent like to call it Gastro....go over to the Regent forum, and read their Noro thread going on now.... Quite interesting how Regent and folks like to distinguish it! LOL! We were on a Regent Cruise last year, and quite a folks had flu like symptoms and severe gastro....not once did the word Noro pop up from the ship!

So it is O.K. that they lie to us also? Same company, same playbook. Not right. :(:(:(

So it is O.K. that they lie to us also? Same company, same playbook. Not right. :(:(:(

I don't mean this harshly, but to take a page from Noel Cowards "Why do the Wrong People Travel"

We'd be less oppressed

If the immunosuppressed

Would settle for somewhere

rather nearer

In other words, be careful what you wish for.

I don't mean this harshly, but to take a page from Noel Cowards "Why do the Wrong People Travel"

 

We'd be less oppressed

If the immunosuppressed

Would settle for somewhere

rather nearer

 

In other words, be careful what you wish for.

Only wish we would get all the correct info. I love Oceania, but they are not always right.

Noro is a diagnosis that they not be able to confirm. Gastro covers Noro and other gi diseases

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Noro is a diagnosis that they not be able to confirm. Gastro covers Noro and other gi diseases

 

 

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Why not? The CDC seems to be able to confirm it pretty quickly. Maybe they do not want to confirm it. Bad for them? Just saying.

Why not? The CDC seems to be able to confirm it pretty quickly. Maybe they do not want to confirm it. Bad for them? Just saying.

In order to confirm the diagnosis, a number of symptoms must present over the course of the illness. This is true even if one is sitting in the Mayo Clinic, and it cannot be rushed.

Also, everyone becomes ill from a different plateau of health.

Haven't you ever had a cold at the same time as your spouse where you got more coughing and they had the runnier nose?

Impatience of the uneducated to define them as a certain illness makes no impression on the pathogens.

Definitive diagnosis of Norovirus requires identification of the virus (usually from a stool sample) processed through a rather complicated procedure that takes 48 or more hours and requires equipment not likely to be available on board a ship or, for that matter, in your doctors office or clinic. Generally this equipment is available in major hospital labs and at the CDC.

Diagnosis of Noro by clinical observation is difficult due to the variety of individual symptoms and the similarly of those symptoms to many other gastrointestinal diseases. It is therefore clinically and professionally accurate to report gastroenteritis when lab tests are not available. General causes of these similar symptoms include food poisoning (normally bacterial), various toxins (poisons), e-coli contamination, various intestinal parasites and a number of others. Some are bacterial and therefore treatable with suitable antibiotics. Noro is, of course, a virus and treatment is supportive only.

What is going on on Marina may well be Noro but it could be a number of other conditions. I doubt they have a lab confirmation of whatever it is. Meanwhile, they have to do what they have been reported doing.

For perspective - in our community last month there were over 500 cases of Noro (lab confirmed) all coming from eating in one restaurant over about a weeks period (some of the infections were passed on to family and other contacts). The restaurant was closed for several days, all food discarded and, of course, steam cleaned top to bottom. Consider that on a cruise an outbreak would have been noticed the first day and investigations and precautions started immediately.

Note also, the ship is not the carrier. Someone brought it aboard - most likely a passenger. Also, Noro is a nasty and persistent bugger and will persist on hard surfaces. Hence the nasty cleaning products, the removal of common use items like salt shakers and menus and the constant advice to wash your hands and to be careful what you touch.

We were on a cruise a few years ago (Norwegian, I think), and we had a late embarkation because there was a Noro outbreak on the cruise right before us. We used sanitizers, the crew wiped down everything, served everything, etc., and we never got sick. We were on shore excursions with people on other ships docked at the same ports - their ships had Noro outbreaks, but we just kept our distance, washed our hands, used sanitizers, etc., and never got sick.

Be vigilant about washing your hands, sanitizing, etc., and you should be fine.

Why not? The CDC seems to be able to confirm it pretty quickly. Maybe they do not want to confirm it. Bad for them? Just saying.

See the excellent post #16 above for a rational explanation and an answer to your question.

Very educational rather than emotional.

We were on a cruise a few years ago (Norwegian, I think), and we had a late embarkation because there was a Noro outbreak on the cruise right before us. We used sanitizers, the crew wiped down everything, served everything, etc., and we never got sick. We were on shore excursions with people on other ships docked at the same ports - their ships had Noro outbreaks, but we just kept our distance, washed our hands, used sanitizers, etc., and never got sick.

 

Be vigilant about washing your hands, sanitizing, etc., and you should be fine.

Of course, washing hands is always a good idea but, unfortunately, if the person handling your food is ill you may get sick anyway. Sometimes bad things happen to people with clean hands.

May not have been a contaminated person.

CDC site says: Foods can also be contaminated at their source. For example:

• oysters that are harvested from contaminated water, or
  
• fruit and vegetables that are contaminated in the field.
  

May not have been a contaminated person.

 

 

CDC site says: Foods can also be contaminated at their source. For example:

• oysters that are harvested from contaminated water, or
  
• fruit and vegetables that are contaminated in the field.
  

To muddy the waters even further, we once attended a VERY EXPENSIVE political fundraiser

at a World renowned Hotel where the food was donated by a celebrity chef who was romantically involved with the Candidate.

You guessed it, the Lobster was tainted.

We were 6 depositions, four months and three lawyers into it before a realistic mentor, very well known to this Board, advised us to let it go.

Unless one lives in an Isolation Booth, it is just about impossible to prove the source of infection.

So it looks like it should be sort of back to normal in 2 days, a relief.Now to worry about the rain.Will pack a rain coat now and bring small umbrella.

News flash

Noro outbreak affecting South Korean security staff. Military brought in

It is not the ship

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On the Nautica and we had eggs Benedict yesterday morning. Well kind of! Eggs were not poached but hard boiled, very hard boiled. Forget about runny yolk! Seems that’s what all are getting. No more EB for us! Yuk! The new price of safety!

On now with Minor (IMO) disruptions.

No salt and pepper shakers in Terrace only.

Paper menus in all restaurants. Some of us actually like those better.

Meats cooked to order.

I believe the library cabinets are still locked.

Executive lounge is open.

We were told last night at dinner things would be returning to normal after 48hrs if no new cases were reported.

Staff seem to be in good spirits.

 

Only problem is the 48 hrs of rain......

Can you give us an update on above,since time has passed.

When Library cab locked, can they be opened by staff?Or I must find some paperbacks to pack.

Has rain finally stopped?Know its rainy season,but hoping not a daily thing.

How are you enjoying cruise,besides above probs. Let us know.