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I've seen D+ listed on those signs.

 

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I didn't see it on Oasis. You are on there next week according to your signature. Perhaps you could verify. Certainly I would have noticed. Ah, Er, well maybe not. I always get in trouble when I don't notice certain things that I should when Sallie gets back from the hairdresser.

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What I have always found RUDE are the people who play cards, sit and read a book, or sit with their laptops in the buffets, especially during the peak eating times, when people are walking around with their plate/trays trying to find a table to sit and they cannot find one. These people are not eating, just sitting there taking up a table. That's my pet-peeve. And if doesn't happen only on RCL but other cruise lines also. :(

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Since the beginning of time, pre laptop days, dinner is and always will be an off limits time for doing work. Taking phone calls, conducting business, and generally ignoring others around you. That is rude. Business is conducted after dinner, where deals are made. It might include a cigar and Whiskey, but it is not at the dinner table. There is a time for work, and a time for business.

 

 

 

 

Thank you for the voice of reason. Had the kids not been running around looking at the screen, it may have been a emergency, but that put it over the top, Thanks again!

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Seems to read about it being done for tax avoidance. Like I said I don't understand why it is allowed. It just seems to me that when you want to become a US citizen you should surrender your previous citizenship. Kind of like your DL in the states.

 

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First of all US doesn't care if you have other citizenship. If you live in US you pay taxes to US. If you don't you still must pay taxes if you make more than $102k even if you don't work for US company (in my motherland you don't pay any taxes on foreign income )

 

It is also not always easy to lose your other citizenship. It is not automatic. For example for me to lose my other citizenship I need to pay for this and also go through a lengthy procedure and wait for approval. Unless I will get hired by a company that requires security clearance I am not doing this. Why should I? My only advantage in having Ukrainian citizenship is that of can go to some countries visa free, but for this I will need to maintain my other passport and I'm not doing this.

Also Ukraine doesn't really check which passport I use for entrance to Ukraine as Ukraine doesn't require visa for US citizens. My friends from Russia will have to get expensive visas to visit their parents if they lost their citizenship.

 

It's complicated. ...

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What I have always found RUDE are the people who play cards, sit and read a book, or sit with their laptops in the buffets, especially during the peak eating times, when people are walking around with their plate/trays trying to find a table to sit and they cannot find one. These people are not eating, just sitting there taking up a table. That's my pet-peeve. And if doesn't happen only on RCL but other cruise lines also. :(

 

 

 

That would be super annoying!

 

 

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Seems to me citizenship is a pledge to honor one country.

 

My view also ( as an Aussie), else what does it actually mean to be a citizen?

 

I am sure you are well aware of the famous Australian Rupert Murdoch, who in order to pursue his business interest in USA had to rescind his Aussie citizenship - copped a lot of grief here from local media, which is ironic :D

 

Dual citizenship has been a big thing in our news here lately regarding our elected government members. Seems our forefathers, when drafting our constitution over a century ago, included that to be elected to our parliament you must be 'Australian' & only Australian. The courts here have interpreted the wording to encompass that you cannot even have the opportunity to be a citizen of another country, and further that you must formally have renounced any possibility of having foreign citizenship due to your ancestry. Several have had to resign from the parliament. A couple have done this, did the necessary 'renouncing' and then a few weeks later were re-elected!!

 

Anyway, back to rude & strange things.

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My view also ( as an Aussie), else what does it actually mean to be a citizen?

 

 

 

I am sure you are well aware of the famous Australian Rupert Murdoch, who in order to pursue his business interest in USA had to rescind his Aussie citizenship - copped a lot of grief here from local media, which is ironic :D

 

 

 

Dual citizenship has been a big thing in our news here lately regarding our elected government members. Seems our forefathers, when drafting our constitution over a century ago, included that to be elected to our parliament you must be 'Australian' & only Australian. The courts here have interpreted the wording to encompass that you cannot even have the opportunity to be a citizen of another country, and further that you must formally have renounced any possibility of having foreign citizenship due to your ancestry. Several have had to resign from the parliament. A couple have done this, did the necessary 'renouncing' and then a few weeks later were re-elected!!

 

 

 

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To be President of USA, one must be born here.

 

 

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Formally renounce? How is that? I know many people who would gladly do this.

Unfortunately just because someone's done this country of formally renounced citizenship will not accept it.

And then there are refugees for whom it might not be possible at all.

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To be President of USA, one must be born here.

 

 

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Not always. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but was allowed to run for president. He was deemed a naturalized US citizen because his mother was a US citizen and his father was a US resident, not citizen. Sorry, didn't mean to take this thread even further off topic.

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Not always. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but was allowed to run for president. He was deemed a naturalized US citizen because his mother was a US citizen and his father was a US resident, not citizen. Sorry, didn't mean to take this thread even further off topic.

 

 

 

Constitution says Natural born but offers no definition. I personally didn’t believe he qualified.

 

 

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One day in the casino playing the quarter "pusher" game, I dropped a handful of quarters, loudly. Had to get down on my hands and knees to pick them all up. A minute after, guy playing next to me bent down, picked up a quarter from the floor under his foot , and put it in his machine.

 

Jerk.

 

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I'm not sure if it qualifies as the rudest, but I'd really prefer that teens returning from their clubs around 12am would've done it more quietly. They don't scream on purpose, but it seems that they also don't attempt to keep voice down. Some people are sleeping....

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I'm not sure if it qualifies as the rudest, but I'd really prefer that teens returning from their clubs around 12am would've done it more quietly. They don't scream on purpose, but it seems that they also don't attempt to keep voice down. Some people are sleeping....

 

Couldn't agree more. On Anthem last July there were kids running up and down the halls late at night, yelling and laughing. Main reason I like to cruise when kids are in school.

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Formally renounce? How is that? I know many people who would gladly do this.

Unfortunately just because someone's done this country of formally renounced citizenship will not accept it.

And then there are refugees for whom it might not be possible at all.

 

I suggest this is too complicated topic for this forum & way off topic anyway. I am certainly not an expert, and agree that some countries may not allow renouncing or not have facility for it, but I will say that this has come up, as the courts here have accepted compliance (for standing for election) based on taking all reasonable means to renounce.

One case involved a man who's mother was born in Hungary pre WW2, which apparently was 'deleted' as a country at one point. Subsequently Hungary granted citizenship to all previous citizens, including the mother. Her son then was 'entitled' to Hungarian citizenship. He thus was ineligible to run for parliament without renouncing this right.

 

Our forefathers could never have envisioned such things in the late 1890's when they wrote the constitution, nor the immigration Australia has seen since WW2, that makes us very multi-cultural,

 

Back to the topic at hand.

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I'll probably be flogged for this, but I'd much rather have well behaved dogs on a ship than some of the belligerent and obnoxious people I see. "The more people I meet, the more I like my dog." Love this thread - thanks to the OP for starting it! Happy sailing!

 

Agreed.

 

And illness wise, there are very few diseases of dogs that transfer to people. The old saying is that it is safer (illness wise) to kiss your dog than your significant other. :D

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Why wouldn't it be allowed? I know lots of dual citizens.

 

Advantages? I can travel everywhere on a British passport, except to the U.S. I have to use my U.S. passport for that. It makes travel in Europe much easier (for now. I suppose all that will change with Brexit).

 

Some countries don't allow it, that is why.

 

Citizenship implies a loyalty to the country of citizenship. So with dual citizenship, in a conflict between the two, where do your loyalties lie?

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Why some ignorant people belittle the vocation of farming is beyond me. I wonder what those morons eat everyday.

I know several farmers, and they are all gentlemen. BTW I know lawyers and Drs. that are butt wads.

 

Because they have not figured out that the food they eat does not magically appear.

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My view also ( as an Aussie), else what does it actually mean to be a citizen?

 

I am sure you are well aware of the famous Australian Rupert Murdoch, who in order to pursue his business interest in USA had to rescind his Aussie citizenship - copped a lot of grief here from local media, which is ironic :D

 

Dual citizenship has been a big thing in our news here lately regarding our elected government members. Seems our forefathers, when drafting our constitution over a century ago, included that to be elected to our parliament you must be 'Australian' & only Australian. The courts here have interpreted the wording to encompass that you cannot even have the opportunity to be a citizen of another country, and further that you must formally have renounced any possibility of having foreign citizenship due to your ancestry. Several have had to resign from the parliament. A couple have done this, did the necessary 'renouncing' and then a few weeks later were re-elected!!

 

Anyway, back to rude & strange things.

 

Believe me, we would MUCH rather not deal with the formalities of citizenship. My wife would also prefer to just stay a Danish citizen. But there are too many risks of not grabbing a US citizenship also. If she goes to Denmark for the summer, the US may deem this too long and revoke her residency. Even things like failure to update your address could get your residency revoked. Then what? My wife gets kicked out of the country and my kids have no mother? Permanent residency is not permanent, there is an expiration date on the card that needs to be renewed and it can be revoked for various reasons. So citizenship it is. She doesn't care one bit about voting, she cares about making our lives easier and avoiding the bureaucratic mess and risk of our immigration system and losing her children. You have no idea what it's like dealing with this over here. Took the government WAY too long just to get her green card, she couldn't travel. Had to get an emergency stamp in her passport for travel. Everytime she gets off the plane or cruise ship to go through immigration, there is a nervousness about what nonsense could happen next. One time she misplaced a card, a stupid card, and couldn't even get on the plane to come home. It sucks. So screw it, dual citizenship is available, why not?!

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Not aboard ship, but I once was in a restaurant where a person was talking on her cell phone over the speakerphone. Small restaurant and the entire restaurant was annoyed. She was oblivious to her rudeness.

 

When that has happened, I have been known to join the conversation. :D

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I've seen a couple of rude things... but maybe the most often it is the chair hog situation. I just hate it when people put their towels out to hold a chair, and they are gone for hours! On my last cruise, I was finally brave enough to move a towel that was left on a chair for over an hour, so my DH could sit next to me (and the chair hogs never showed up over the next hour). On my next cruises, I may end up seeing if employees will move the chair hogs towels... and if they don't, I'll just take care of it myself...

 

Had a group chair hog, and not show up for hours. Then there were even more chairs hogged, and they tried to claim, to security, that the "other people" had just been there and would be right back.

 

I decided to point out that we had been there for several hours, and NO ONE had been by. Security gave the chairs to other people. :D

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Seems to read about it being done for tax avoidance. Like I said I don't understand why it is allowed. It just seems to me that when you want to become a US citizen you should surrender your previous citizenship. Kind of like your DL in the states.

 

Or it could get you paying tax 2 or 3 times.

 

A US citizen living out the US still has to pay US taxes. But may also pay local taxes. With dual citizenship, you may ed up paying 3 times.

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What I have always found RUDE are the people who play cards, sit and read a book, or sit with their laptops in the buffets, especially during the peak eating times, when people are walking around with their plate/trays trying to find a table to sit and they cannot find one. These people are not eating, just sitting there taking up a table. That's my pet-peeve. And if doesn't happen only on RCL but other cruise lines also. :(

 

What got me was all the people hogging tables, cards is bad, reading, to me, is worse. in the solarium around lunchtime, while people are trying to get food and eat from Cafe Promenade.

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