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#1
Commerce, TX, USA
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STATENDAM 7/25/2004 --99
VEENDAM 7/18/2004 --97
OOSTERDAM 6/14/2004 --100
AMSTERDAM 5/23/2004 --97
ROTTERDAM 5/16/2004 --95
VOLENDAM 5/14/2004 --90
MAASDAM 5/5/2004 --89
ZUIDERDAM 5/1/2004 --98
ZAANDAM 4/3/2004 --98
NOORDAM 3/28/2004 --93
RYNDAM 3/13/2004 --94
PRINSENDAM 1/20/2004 --90

Average HAL score: 95

The current Vista Series Westerdam has not yet been scored
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#2
San Antonio, TX
1,380 Posts
Joined Jul 2004
Revneal - I'm showing my inexperience here but could you please explain what CDC stands for and what criteria goes into the score.

Thank You
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Life is all about the Journey/The only important thing to take when you travel is a Good Attitude

UPCOMING CRUISE
2014 HAL's Veendam Mexican Riviera (7)
First Solo Cruise

PAST CRUISES:
1989 Carnival Mardi Gras Caribbean (4)
1990Celebrity Meridian Caribbean (7)
2000 Commodore Caribbean (7)
2002 HAL's Maasdam Caribbean (7)
2005 NCL Sun Western Caribbean (7)
2006 HAL's Volendam Southern Caribbean (10)
2007 Celebrity's Infinity to Hawaii (14)
2007 HAL's Oosterdam to Mexican Riviera (7)
2008 HAL's Westerdam to Panama Canal (15)
2009 Celebrity's Infinity to Alaska (11)



#3
Commerce, TX, USA
14,554 Posts
Joined Nov 2001
Dear Deb,

Oh, I'm sorry! The CDC = Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They do inspections of all Cruise ships for health and safety. You can find the scores and the criteria here:

CDC Vessel Sanitation Program

Here is a link to the Cruise Ship Sanitation Inspection Checklist:

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/Archives/checklis.htm

Looking at this list ... I'm amazed ... the kitchen in my Rectory would probably score a negative 50. I find it AMAZING that these cruise ships score so well ... their attention to detail is incredible!
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#4
Commerce, TX, USA
14,554 Posts
Joined Nov 2001
I thought I'd go ahead and cut-and-past the checklist to this page so that we can look at these items in more detail ... if anyone is so inclined! Hey, it beats all heck out of hurricanes and hula dancing!

Cruise Ship Sanitation Inspection Checklist
Total: 100 points

A. Water

1. Potable water (PW) chlorinated or brominated to at least 2.0 parts per million (ppm) (mg/l) at the time of bunkering. PW tanks constructed and maintained. (5 points)

2. PW distribution system treated to provide a free halogen residual greater than or equal to 0.2 ppm by means of an approved chlorination or bromination system. (5 points)

3. PW system chlorine analyzer and chart recorder maintained, operated, and calibrated. Acceptable evidence of potability. (5 points)

4. PW system not subjected to contamination through cross-contaminations to nonpotable water supply or through backflow or backsiphonage. (3 points)

5. PW filling hoses, caps, and connections maintained and stored. Sample cocks provided on tanks. Tank vents and sounding tubes property installed and maintained. (1 point)

6. Swimming pools, spas, whirlpools, hot tubs, and similar facilities maintained and operated. (3 points)

7. Plumbing fixtures, supply lines, drain lines and drains installed and maintained in good repair. (1 point)

B. Food Protection And Source


a. Source, sound condition, no spoilage. Unwrapped food not re-served. (5 points)

9. Original containers, labeling used. (2 points)

10. Potentially hazardous food meets temperature requirements during storage, preparation, display, service, and transportation. (5 points)

11. Practices and facilities provided to maintain product temperature. (2 points)

12. Thermometers provided and properly located. (1 point)

13. Potentially hazardous food properly thawed. (2 points)

14. Food protected during storage, preparation, display, service, and transportation. (2 points)

15. No cross-contamination between raw, ready-to-eat, and cooked foods. (2 points)

16. Handling of food, ice minimized. (2 points)

17. In-use food, ice dispensing, and preparation utensils stored. (1 point)

C. Personnel


18. Food handlers free of infections and communicable diseases. Medical logs maintained and recorded. (5 points)

19. Hands washed and clean; good hygiene practiced; uniforms clean. (4 points)

D. Equipment And Warewashing


20. Food-contact and ice-contact surfaces designed, constructed, maintained, installed, and located. (2 points)

21. Nonfood-contact surfaces designed, constructed, maintained, installed, and located. (1 point)

22. Dishwashing and equipment washing facilities designed, constructed, maintained. installed, located, and operated. (2 points)

23. Warewashing thermometers, chemical test kits provided. (1 point)

24. Dishes and utensils preflushed, scraped, soaked. (1 point)

25. Wash and rinse water clean, of proper temperature. (1 point)

26. Sanitizing rinse clean, of proper temperature, concentration, and exposure time. (3 points)

27. Wiping cloths and chef's towels clean, properly stored; use restricted. (1 point)

28. Food-contact surfaces of equipment and utensils clean. (2 points)

29. Nonfood-contact surfaces of equipment and utensils clean. (1 point)

30. Proper storage, handling of clean/soiled equipment and utensils. (1 point)

31. Single-service articles properly stored, dispensed. (1 point)

32. Proper use of single-service articles or containers. (2 points)

E. Solid And Liquid Waste Disposal


33. Solid waste containers covered, of adequate number, located. Liquid waste disposed of properly. (3 points)

F. Toilet And Handwashing Facilities


34. Facilities convenient, accessible, designed, installed. (3 points)

35. Hand cleanser, sanitary towels, waste receptacles, and signs provided. (1 point)

G. Pest Control And Toxic Substances


36. No presence of insects and rodents; outer openings protected; approved pesticide application. (3 point)

37. Toxic Items stored, labeled, and used properly. (5 points)

H. Miscellaneous Facilities


38. Decks, bulkheads, and deckheads clean, of proper construction, in good repair. (1 point)

39. Lighting provided as required; fixtures shielded. (1 point)

40. Rooms and equipment vented. (1 point)

41. Premises free of unnecessary articles; cleaning equipment stored; only authorized personnel permitted. (1 point)

42. Clean and soiled linen in proper storage areas. (1 point)
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#5
San Antonio, TX
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Joined Jul 2004
Thank You!!
I'm amazed at all the detail that is inspected, I wonder how these viral outbreaks occur with all the attention to detail.

With all the talk about A/C issues on the Z, wouldn't this show up on the report?

Thanks again for the education, I'm always learning on this board.
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Life is all about the Journey/The only important thing to take when you travel is a Good Attitude

UPCOMING CRUISE
2014 HAL's Veendam Mexican Riviera (7)
First Solo Cruise

PAST CRUISES:
1989 Carnival Mardi Gras Caribbean (4)
1990Celebrity Meridian Caribbean (7)
2000 Commodore Caribbean (7)
2002 HAL's Maasdam Caribbean (7)
2005 NCL Sun Western Caribbean (7)
2006 HAL's Volendam Southern Caribbean (10)
2007 Celebrity's Infinity to Hawaii (14)
2007 HAL's Oosterdam to Mexican Riviera (7)
2008 HAL's Westerdam to Panama Canal (15)
2009 Celebrity's Infinity to Alaska (11)



#6
High Point, NC
7,015 Posts
Joined May 2000
Actually most viral sickness comes from people to people contact. Often people board a ship as a carrier and then it spreads. Best advice; wash your hands often.
#9
obetz oh usa
2,517 Posts
Joined May 2000
Thanks Greg for the report. Glad to see HAL is staying up there and on top of things. We sail the Zaandam in Dec. and I know you are on her in 10 days, so it was good to see she got a 98.....jean
#11
Commerce, TX, USA
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Joined Nov 2001
I'm just glad the CDC doesn't come inspect my kitchen!
Boy howdy, is that EVER true for me, too! The guidelines and standards by which they judge these ships are very tight ... I don't see how anybody meets them! I know MY kitchen would fail.
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#12
Vero Beach, FL USA
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Joined Mar 2004
I know I'm going to be stepping on some toes here, but with a score of 89 the Maasdam is only passing by 3 points. That doesn't overly impress me. A score of 86 is needed to pass. Of course, the Maasdam is the next ship I'll be sailing on.
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Past Cruises
1/1990 - RCCL Song of America
4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - HAL Maasdam
3/26/2005 - HAL Zuiderdam
12/2/2007 - Carnival Valor
12/14/2008 - NCL Pearl
3/7/2010 - Costa Fortuna
1/6/2013 - Norwegian Dawn
3/27/2014 - Norwegian Sun

Future Cruises
10/11/2014 - Norwegian Sun (Panama Canal)

Land Vacations
06/22/1998 - Sandals Negril, Jamaica
2/14/2005 - Sandals Negril, Jamaica
6/21/2006 - Barcelo Maya, Mexico
11/29/2006 - Sandals Negril, Jamaica
1/10/2009 - Coco View Roatan, Honduras - Scuba Diving
8/23/2009 - Grand Bahia Principe, Punta Cana, Dominican Republic
11/14/2009 - Barracuda Hotel Cozumel, Mexico - Scuba Diving
5/8/2010 - Coco View Roatan, Honduras - Scuba Diving
11/30/2010 - Barcelo Maya, Mexico

Future Land Vacations
None Planned (yet)
#14
Vero Beach, FL USA
3,455 Posts
Joined Mar 2004
I just read this morning that the Carnival Pride flunked with a score of 83, three points below passing. I don't know what the results of this will be.
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Past Cruises
1/1990 - RCCL Song of America
4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - HAL Maasdam
3/26/2005 - HAL Zuiderdam
12/2/2007 - Carnival Valor
12/14/2008 - NCL Pearl
3/7/2010 - Costa Fortuna
1/6/2013 - Norwegian Dawn
3/27/2014 - Norwegian Sun

Future Cruises
10/11/2014 - Norwegian Sun (Panama Canal)

Land Vacations
06/22/1998 - Sandals Negril, Jamaica
2/14/2005 - Sandals Negril, Jamaica
6/21/2006 - Barcelo Maya, Mexico
11/29/2006 - Sandals Negril, Jamaica
1/10/2009 - Coco View Roatan, Honduras - Scuba Diving
8/23/2009 - Grand Bahia Principe, Punta Cana, Dominican Republic
11/14/2009 - Barracuda Hotel Cozumel, Mexico - Scuba Diving
5/8/2010 - Coco View Roatan, Honduras - Scuba Diving
11/30/2010 - Barcelo Maya, Mexico

Future Land Vacations
None Planned (yet)
#15
in the South
2,402 Posts
Joined Aug 2004
Oh dear - we are booked on our first cruise December 22 (Maasdam Holiday Cruise). We paid almost twice as much to go then as opposed to the time period before or after - but did so without complaint because Maasdam schedule works best for us, the islands are the ports we want to see, AND we can drive to Norfolk in 4 hours. Now I read this - please tell me we didn't make a mistake booking this for our first cruise. Other boards do not say the nice things about Maasdam that this board does (so I quit reading those and came to this board)! I have already posted about being afraid of drinking "strange water" when traveling, so you can imagine my reaction when I read this post!
#16
Phoenix,AZ
10,307 Posts
Joined Jul 2004
Originally posted by Linda&Vern
Oh dear - we are booked on our first cruise December 22 (Maasdam Holiday Cruise). We paid almost twice as much to go then as opposed to the time period before or after - but did so without complaint because Maasdam schedule works best for us, the islands are the ports we want to see, AND we can drive to Norfolk in 4 hours. Now I read this - please tell me we didn't make a mistake booking this for our first cruise. Other boards do not say the nice things about Maasdam that this board does (so I quit reading those and came to this board)! I have already posted about being afraid of drinking "strange water" when traveling, so you can imagine my reaction when I read this post!
If its any comfort to you, I believe most ships won't be content with a low score and will work hard to bring them up to standard.
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#17
West Palm Beach, FL
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Joined Oct 2003
Wow! I'm impressed ... 100 for the Oosterdam! We're sailing on her in November so I'm glad she's all spiffy and clean
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#18
Vero Beach, FL USA
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Joined Mar 2004
Originally posted by HeatherInFlorida
Wow! I'm impressed ... 100 for the Oosterdam! We're sailing on her in November so I'm glad she's all spiffy and clean
Heather,

How can you be happy about a 100 score on the Oosterdam, when some of us are living in fear of an 89 on the Maasdam?
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Past Cruises
1/1990 - RCCL Song of America
4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - HAL Maasdam
3/26/2005 - HAL Zuiderdam
12/2/2007 - Carnival Valor
12/14/2008 - NCL Pearl
3/7/2010 - Costa Fortuna
1/6/2013 - Norwegian Dawn
3/27/2014 - Norwegian Sun

Future Cruises
10/11/2014 - Norwegian Sun (Panama Canal)

Land Vacations
06/22/1998 - Sandals Negril, Jamaica
2/14/2005 - Sandals Negril, Jamaica
6/21/2006 - Barcelo Maya, Mexico
11/29/2006 - Sandals Negril, Jamaica
1/10/2009 - Coco View Roatan, Honduras - Scuba Diving
8/23/2009 - Grand Bahia Principe, Punta Cana, Dominican Republic
11/14/2009 - Barracuda Hotel Cozumel, Mexico - Scuba Diving
5/8/2010 - Coco View Roatan, Honduras - Scuba Diving
11/30/2010 - Barcelo Maya, Mexico

Future Land Vacations
None Planned (yet)
#19
Naples, FL / Hinckley, OH
321 Posts
Joined Jul 2004
Originally posted by Orcrone
Heather,

How can you be happy about a 100 score on the Oosterdam, when some of us are living in fear of an 89 on the Maasdam?
Just pack your scrub brush and Lysol and pitch in and give the crew a hand. You'll have those deficiencies corrected in no time.... well, at least by the time you get back.
#20
West Palm Beach, FL
12,835 Posts
Joined Oct 2003
Originally posted by Orcrone
Heather,

How can you be happy about a 100 score on the Oosterdam, when some of us are living in fear of an 89 on the Maasdam?
Marc, you are reeeeeeeally funny tonight!!!

I think they just may have a job for you as part of the comedy team on the Maasdam
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