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#21
Scotland
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Originally posted by Blackjack22
My point is, there are lots of definitions of vegan and a lot of people (myself included) consider shrimp vegan.
Ok, so I did make the jokey-y comment about the definition of animals trying to keep this lighthearted. As for bacteria, they are not sentient animals so that isn't relevant our discussion.

So there are people who think consuming bivalves and prawns is vegan - I already made that point. But for the majority of vegans (and organisations that represent us in the UK), prawns wouldn't be considered vegan. Much like backyard eggs.

Even the vegetarian society says prawns aren't vegetarian as they're shellfish.
https://www.vegsoc.org/definitions


Maybe it is a UK vs US thing - but for over here vegan equals plant based.
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#23
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Originally posted by MsPoppadom
As for bacteria, they are not sentient animals so that isn't relevant our discussion.
Neither are mollusks or shrimp though so I just don't understand how your definitions or any British definition for vegan is even possible unless a person is eating in a sterile environment and only eating amino acids, fats and carbohydrates that are manufactured in a sterile lab using sterile "plant based" inputs. I just always thought most people who were vegan were doing it for ethical reasons.

I certainly don't do it for the "health of it", I have been strictly adhering to a vegan diet for a long time and my doctor begs me to quit because of my anemia and sugar diabetes, but he just doesn't get it. I'm not going to sacrifice a bunch of innocent animals and make them have hard lives and painful deaths in order to MAYBE feel a little better and take fewer meds. NO THANK YOU DOCTOR! Sorry for the rant.
#24
Ontario, Canada
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Originally posted by Blackjack22
You folks are way off on this I'm really sorry to say. So you completely sterilize your food before consumption? How is that even edible? You realize you would be killing the bacteria, amoeba etc in the process and their bodies are still on the food. What about the accidental critters that get introduced into the production of food? Bacteria "poops" as you say. My point is, there are lots of definitions of vegan and a lot of people (myself included) consider shrimp vegan.
I never said anything about bacteria. I said Shrimp actually poop. And vegans don't eat anything that poops, has eyes or veins. You really need to research the true definition of a vegan because if you eat shrimp you are not even vegetarian. Or would be called a pescetarian. Here is that definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism
I am from Canada and you would not be considered a vegan. There are lots of variations of a vegan but consuming shrimp or fish is not part of the variations here. I have never met or known a vegan in real life or online that consumes these things.
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#25
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Originally posted by cruisingfor5
I never said anything about bacteria. I said Shrimp actually poop. And vegans don't eat anything that poops, has eyes or veins. You really need to research the true definition of a vegan because if you eat shrimp you are not even vegetarian. Or would be called a pescetarian. Here is that definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism
I am from Canada and you would not be considered a vegan. There are lots of variations of a vegan but consuming shrimp or fish is not part of the variations here. I have never met or known a vegan in real life or online that consumes these things.
I've never heard a person in America say vegans don't eat anything that poops, has veins or eyes. I think you guys are like a lot of my vegan friends.

I'll start off by saying that I'm glad they are vegans because they are helping to end pain and suffering in the world. However they get into being a vegan for misguided reasons or don't fully understand what it means to be a vegan. I've actully got a "vegan" friend who sees nothing wrong with having leather seats! Another friend BOUGHT a designer dog. Another friend had her daughter's birthday party at a freaking zoo! I mean they are real looney tunes, but they don't eat anything with a nervous system which can react to external stimuli and command mobility and thus they are vegan.

Bacteria poop and so do shrimp. Shrimp aren't fish. I eat bacteria and shrimp, but don't eat fish. I'm a vegan.

Let me be clear also, I'm not trying to come off as some high and mighty person who you all should aspire to as some guru or role model. I could definitely live a more sustainable lifestyle. But I do think I'm a pretty good role model for how to live vegan and reduce suffering.
#26
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Originally posted by Blackjack22
I eat bacteria and shrimp, but don't eat fish. I'm a vegan.
Uh huh. And I eat vegetables and bacon, but do not eat shrimp. I'm an observant Jew. Keep telling yourself that.
#27
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Originally posted by pf778c
Uh huh. And I eat vegetables and bacon, but do not eat shrimp. I'm an observant Jew. Keep telling yourself that.

I don't care about your religion man, whatever helps you sleep at night.
#28
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Originally posted by Blackjack22
I've never heard a person in America say vegans don't eat anything that poops, has veins or eyes. I think you guys are like a lot of my vegan friends.

I'll start off by saying that I'm glad they are vegans because they are helping to end pain and suffering in the world. However they get into being a vegan for misguided reasons or don't fully understand what it means to be a vegan. I've actully got a "vegan" friend who sees nothing wrong with having leather seats! Another friend BOUGHT a designer dog. Another friend had her daughter's birthday party at a freaking zoo! I mean they are real looney tunes, but they don't eat anything with a nervous system which can react to external stimuli and command mobility and thus they are vegan.

Bacteria poop and so do shrimp. Shrimp aren't fish. I eat bacteria and shrimp, but don't eat fish. I'm a vegan.

Let me be clear also, I'm not trying to come off as some high and mighty person who you all should aspire to as some guru or role model. I could definitely live a more sustainable lifestyle. But I do think I'm a pretty good role model for how to live vegan and reduce suffering.
but you're the same person who wants to take his/her kids to a cock fight in Puerto Rico (see San Juan boards).....
#29
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Originally posted by rjm11
but you're the same person who wants to take his/her kids to a cock fight in Puerto Rico (see San Juan boards).....
Who are you to judge my parenting or life skills? FACT: Roosters naturally fight and have ALMOST no agricultural "use" so the fighting roosters are actually living their best life compared to their cousins who get incinerated, shredded, frozen or crushed when they are a day old. While I wouldn't do it personally, I don't have a problem with people who hunt or fish and consume what they eat because they are carrying out human's ecological niche and the animals who are the victims have lived a normal life. The roosters and white tail deer live a more natural life than the animals in zoos or feed lots. Further, who are you or I to judge another culture. You sound like a real xenophobe pal.
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Originally posted by Blackjack22
Who are you to judge my parenting or life skills? FACT: Roosters naturally fight and have ALMOST no agricultural "use" so the fighting roosters are actually living their best life compared to their cousins who get incinerated, shredded, frozen or crushed when they are a day old. While I wouldn't do it personally, I don't have a problem with people who hunt or fish and consume what they eat because they are carrying out human's ecological niche and the animals who are the victims have lived a normal life. The roosters and white tail deer live a more natural life than the animals in zoos or feed lots. Further, who are you or I to judge another culture. You sound like a real xenophobe pal.
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#31
Florida
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Joined Sep 2014
1) You can order pizza 24 hours a day with no cheese and unlimited toppings AND can bring vegan cheese on board to add to it.

I was wondering if I could have them add vegan cheese if I brought it. This is a game changer !!! Can you tell me if the dinner rolls are vegan, Ive had them pre-vegan and i work in a bakery, so I'm thinking yes but would like to know for sure, cause i could seriously just be happy eating bread at dinner, it was always my favorite part. Also did you find out if the bagels are vegan...thinking of bringing tons of vegan cream cheese :0)
#32
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Joined May 2017
Originally posted by cruisingfor5
I went on my first cruise as a vegan three weeks ago on carnival. Dining room was amazing but the rest was aweful. Next to nothing to eat during the day. Staff at buffet were not very helpful. Going on RCL next year I hope they have more options. I don't need a lot but oatmeal every morning with under ripe melon for breakfast was tiring by day 5. And lunch...... forget it. I hope they start to take dairy and eggs out of items that don't need it in them.

Guys has a good veggie burger
and you could eat lots of things at the Cantina. I am also plant based and survived a week eating on carnival
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#33
Scotland
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Joined Aug 2013
Hiya!

I just got back from Carnival Horizon and had a great time onboard... and food was pretty darn good, I have to admit. Better vegan provision than I have had on Royal Caribbean in the past.

(You'll find my RC food photos/horrors on vegancruiser.co.uk)

I haven't posted my Carnival blog post yet but I found plenty to eat. MDR breakfast has oatmeal, avocado toast and curried lentil crepe thing, but it was a bit much so never ate that so early in the morning. One of the sous chefs at the Lido buffet would occasionally get me the MDR avo toast so that I didn't need to go down to the MDR for breakfast. Soy & almond milk was available too. Bring your own vegan spread, dairy-free cheese and deli slices and keep them in the fridge if you need them...

I found that on most morning's I would end up in the Blue Iguana queue with a veggie burrito in my hand. Veg fillings with hash browns.. various sauces. I couldn't get a comprehensive answer to whether guagamole (in squeazy bottle) had milk/dairy to make it squeazeable so I stuck to salsa.

Guy's veggieburger is vegan.. just as for no cheese, may, no butter in bun. Deli counter in the lido does a falafel wrap - just ask it without tsatsiki and feta. Lunchtime we also had Mongolian Wok and Italian pasta place to eat in (upcharge in the evenings). No vegan wok sauces, just soy, so I took two sachets of vegan wok sauce with me and chefs were happy to cook with them.

Pizza place in the lido, open 24h, had no vegan cheese, obv, but v little veg. I had to take some from the buffet and they would make one with my buffet veg and vegan salami & cheese. I was told mushrooms in the pizza station were fried with butter so I stayed clear of them.

MDR I always preordered my meals the night before, looking to see if there was something on the next day's menu that was easily veganisable. Indian vegetarian option is generally vegan if without raita.. but I didn't have to stick to that. Even got better desserts than on RC. My Vegancruiser FB page has a few photos from the start of the cruise - blog post up hopefully this weekend.

Beer brewed at own inhouse brewery (Pig & Anchor) at Vista & Horizon is vegan too - just saying
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#34
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Joined May 2017
I lived at Guys and the Cantina, took tons of banana's back to my room to snack on... I managed to not starve Guys has a great veggie burger, you just need to ask for it The fruit was not edible, hard, not ripe (but it was also January)

Also crusing as a vegan
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