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#41
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Originally posted by pseudoware
"Judging" by the context of the post, it's not difficult to infer his/her perspective.

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And, by the context of your post, that you advocate wearing track suits. So .... what?
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#42
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Originally posted by navybankerteacher
And, by the context of your post, that you advocate wearing track suits. So .... what?
I didn't think that was too difficult to infer either. I advocate not judging others by the clothes they wear. I was never taught that.

"So what?" What are you advocating? That you're the gatekeeper of content on these boards?

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#43
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Originally posted by pseudoware
I didn't think that was too difficult to infer either. I advocate not judging others by the clothes they wear. I was never taught that.

"So what?" What are you advocating? That you're the gatekeeper of content on these boards?

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The expression "So what" certainly does not indicate any advocacy of anything - if anything it suggests "who gives a damn?".

So, back to your judgmental "condescending/stereotypical much" snipe.
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#44
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Originally posted by navybankerteacher
The expression "So what" certainly does not indicate any advocacy of anything - if anything it suggests "who gives a damn?".

So, back to your judgmental "condescending/stereotypical much" snipe.
I've clarified my post, or what I'm "advocating." Either you missed it or don't like it.

And you've clarified yours - the self-appointed gatekeeper.

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#46
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Originally posted by champagne123
OMG....children....STOP!!!!!!
pseudoware: "Mommy, navybankerteacher is picking on me."

navybankerteacher: "pseudoware started it"
#47
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Pseudo, I posted a definition.

If you take offence to that then your quarrel is not with me...its with urban dictionary/UK culture.

Fact of the matter is this. If you constantly wear tracksuits in the UK (esp to formal events) you will be called a chav by a large proportion of folk.

My personal opinion (if you are so desperate to know) is that people should dress for the occasion even if just a little. There are many more aesthetically appealing outfits that are as comfy as a tracksuit with a similar cost. Tracksuits are sportswear not dinner wear. On the flipside, people wearing certain things will not affect my holiday.
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I'm just offering another perspective - that of maybe not judging others based on their attire, regardless of occasion.

Maybe it's different than the UK or wherever, but I know (or know of) some pretty wealthy people who dress far "less" than the part, whether it's a wedding or a trip to the market. It might be seen as the chav-equivalent by some who don't know any better. And based on my travels throughout the US, I think I live in a very diverse, tolerant area that probably has the least "protocol" when it comes to attire, at least very generally speaking. People do as they please, and others accept it. I can't imagine a dude here getting any blowback on a widespread scale like you describe for wanting to rock a tracksuit everyday.

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#49
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Originally posted by pseudoware
I know (or know of) some pretty wealthy people who dress far "less" than the part, whether it's a wedding or a trip to the market.
There you go again, equating wealth with class. I've known a few very wealthy people who show by their behavior just how low class they really are. And I've known people of limited financial means who are some of the classiest people one could ever meet. Similarly, one needn't be wealthy to know how to dress appropriately for the occasion. You will not convince many people that a tracksuit is appropriate for a wedding unless it's being held trackside.
#51
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Originally posted by mom says
There you go again, equating wealth with class. I've known a few very wealthy people who show by their behavior just how low class they really are. And I've known people of limited financial means who are some of the classiest people one could ever meet. Similarly, one needn't be wealthy to know how to dress appropriately for the occasion. You will not convince many people that a tracksuit is appropriate for a wedding unless it's being held trackside.
Well said, but people have to comprehend the meaning of "appropriate" to understand your point.
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#52
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My experience in dealing with many C level executives and senior lawyers in business and in social situations is that the more senior they were the less they seemed to care about what others thought of their attire. This surprised me at first. But, often their spouses did not appear to be of the same mind set.

I found this especially noticeable in law firms. The junior partners and associates would be dressed up to the 'nines', not so some of the senior partners. The latter would often be dressed in very good clothing, but it would be far more casual that some others.

The other noticeable difference was location. I did business in several parts of the country. Dress, business and leisure events, was much more casual on the west coast and in some western cities. Very different than in some of the eastern business centers.
#53
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Originally posted by pseudoware
I'm just offering another perspective - that of maybe not judging others based on their attire, regardless of occasion.

Maybe it's different than the UK or wherever, but I know (or know of) some pretty wealthy people who dress far "less" than the part, whether it's a wedding or a trip to the market. It might be seen as the chav-equivalent by some who don't know any better. And based on my travels throughout the US, I think I live in a very diverse, tolerant area that probably has the least "protocol" when it comes to attire, at least very generally speaking. People do as they please, and others accept it. I can't imagine a dude here getting any blowback on a widespread scale like you describe for wanting to rock a tracksuit everyday.

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It has nothing to do with wealth or class...it has everything to do with taste.
You can be comfy and casual and not look like you are heading out to the gym/some light Tennis. I am more casual than a lot of women I know but I make sure my wear is appropriate for the event. There is casual then there is sports wear...a big difference.I was simply trying to suggest comfy and casual alternatives rather than a tracksuit such as lightweight jeans,casual lightweight trousers, polo shirts, t-shirts, tasteful jumpers and so on for men.

I work with families and children from 40-50 different countries, some who rely on food banks weekly and have all sorts of going on in their home lives. I am not judgemental.

In the UK, people wont often shout 'chav' at someone. But they are more likely to mention it when they read about a tracksuited youth in the paper and say 'Oh this chav stole 3 cars' type of thing.
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#54
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Originally posted by Velvetwater
It has nothing to do with wealth or class...it has everything to do with taste.
You can be comfy and casual and not look like you are heading out to the gym/some light Tennis. I am more casual than a lot of women I know but I make sure my wear is appropriate for the event. There is casual then there is sports wear...a big difference.I was simply trying to suggest comfy and casual alternatives rather than a tracksuit such as lightweight jeans,casual lightweight trousers, polo shirts, t-shirts, tasteful jumpers and so on for men.

I work with families and children from 40-50 different countries, some who rely on food banks weekly and have all sorts of going on in their home lives. I am not judgemental.

In the UK, people wont often shout 'chav' at someone. But they are more likely to mention it when they read about a tracksuited youth in the paper and say 'Oh this chav stole 3 cars' type of thing.
The definition ties tracksuit and "lower class", thus my statement on wealthy people who might not "appear" so to some. Whether or not they, or anyone, lacks "tastefulness" in their attire or appearance can often times be a gray area and a matter of opinion influenced by many factors.

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#55
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Originally posted by pseudoware
The definition ties tracksuit and "lower class", thus my statement on wealthy people who might not "appear" so to some. Whether or not they, or anyone, lacks "tastefulness" in their attire or appearance can often times be a gray area and a matter of opinion influenced by many factors.

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It ties it to the definition when worn all of the time and with the whole ensemble .

Tracksuits for sport/children/possibly a medical issue. Maybe wearing the bottoms and a tee to head out for a leisurely stroll.

Simples.
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#57
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Originally posted by pseudoware
Whoa!, you'll get the best table in the MDR with that get up, possibly even a dinner with the Captain.
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#58
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Originally posted by need2cruisesoon
I was recently on the Regal Princess this past October and had determined that the track suit is possibly the best outfit to wear on the ship, at breakfast, lunch and dinner and (evening entertainment). Plus I was very comfortable on all day excursions riding in buses and vans with little discomfort with my attire.

On my next cruise, just a track suit, shorts and some fancy Italian loafers to dress the outfit up a bit.




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need2cruisesoon, look at the brewhaha you have caused around here!. And all because of your comfy track suit look.

Thank God you didn't post that you were going for the MC Hammer comfy look!



This place would have exploded!
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#59
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Originally posted by need2cruisesoon
Whoa!, you'll get the best table in the MDR with that get up, possibly even a dinner with the Captain.
You CAN have your cake and eat it, too.

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#60
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Originally posted by Aquahound
Track suits. I thought those were only worn by terrorists and people from The Villages.
and by Russians, Slavs in general, Eastern Europeans....
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