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#1
Upstate NY near Rochester
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Sadly, we must do this again. Maria is following a path that is parallel but south of Irma.

This thread is to discuss the storm, and any aspects of impact on crusing, the islands, your concerns, and help answer questions. We are not meteorologists but there are a few of us who follow manyt sources and we try to interpret for you, as the news and even The Weather Channel does not cover the whole story and can be seen to cover these storms with an eye toward ratings and advertising sometimes. If you want the official information, watch the actual NOAA Hurricane Center reports at
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov
Wind fields can be seen more clearly with their maps based on the NHC report:
http://www.skeetobiteweather.com/
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#2
Upstate NY near Rochester
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Well, this could not be worse news. Some islands that were spared or brushed by Irma may be looking at a full hit from Maria.

As of the 5pm Sunday NHC report:

The path crosses Dominica and Guadeloupe first, at category 2. That's bad. It also affects Barbados, Martinique, and St. Lucia as it comes in.

It stays south of Antigua, St. Maarten/St. Martin, Saba, St. Barths and St. Kitts but it is strengthening to category 3 at that time and effects depend on size of the storm and far the hurricane wind fields reach.

Then it passes south of the BVI, St. Thomas and St. John but gets close... and too close to the to St. Croix, which was spared by Irma, may take a direct hit at category 3. From there, staying Category 3, it strikes Puerto Rico, Vieques, and Culebra. We can only hope it moves further south and weakens and doesn't do this.

It's too early to talk about what happens after that. If it it hits Hispaniola (DR and Haiti) it will weaken. If not, it could pass north and act a lot like Irma did depending on troughs and shear.
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#3
Upstate NY near Rochester
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NCL Breakaway - 10/9/2016 New York, XBermudaX Port Canaveral, Nassau - Hurricane avoidance
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Carnival Destiny - 10/7/2007 San Juan, St.Thomas, Dominica, Barbados, St.Lucia, Antigua
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#4
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Thanks for starting this thread and posting links. This is our present itinerary. Although we haven't been officially notified, two of our port calls (Tortola and St. Martin) are probably going to change, and possibly more if Maria causes a lot of damage.

Half Moon Cay, Bahamas
AT SEA
AT SEA
Road Town (Tortola), BVI
Basseterre, St Kitts & Nevis
Castries, Saint Lucia (and Cruising Soufriere Bay)
Bridgetown, Barbados
Saint Georges, Grenada
Point-a-Pitre, Guadeloupe
Philipsburg, Sint Maarten
San Juan, Puerto Rico
AT SEA
AT SEA
Fort Lauderdale, FL

We would not be upset if we had a different itinerary. We love being on a cruise. This will only be our second on HAL and we are very happy to be on HAL again. I will give my TA a call tomorrow and see if he has heard anything from HAL.

Thanks again
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While we hate it do need to follow ....
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#8
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My family lives in Puerto Rico. Even though Irma didn't hit them directly, a lot of people are still without electricity since Irma hit last week. Stores had replenished their shelves only to be completely emptied in preparation for Maria. My parents never took the hurricane shutters down as a precaution. Monitoring this closely


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#9
Charlotte, NC
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Joined Jul 2017
Thanks again, Bill. This is shaping up to be the worst storm season I can remember in my 63 years.
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#10
Upstate NY near Rochester
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Joined Nov 2004
Originally posted by JimAOk1945
Thanks for starting this thread and posting links. This is our present itinerary. Although we haven't been officially notified, two of our port calls (Tortola and St. Martin) are probably going to change, and possibly more if Maria causes a lot of damage.

Half Moon Cay, Bahamas
AT SEA
AT SEA
Road Town (Tortola), BVI
Basseterre, St Kitts & Nevis
Castries, Saint Lucia (and Cruising Soufriere Bay)
Bridgetown, Barbados
Saint Georges, Grenada
Point-a-Pitre, Guadeloupe
Philipsburg, Sint Maarten
San Juan, Puerto Rico
AT SEA
AT SEA
Fort Lauderdale, FL

We would not be upset if we had a different itinerary. We love being on a cruise. This will only be our second on HAL and we are very happy to be on HAL again. I will give my TA a call tomorrow and see if he has heard anything from HAL.

Thanks again
What's your sailing date? My own is Dec. 3 on NCL Breakaway. We know we can't go to Tortola, St. Maarten and St. Thomas already. Now worried about San Juan, Antigua and St. Kitts, our other 3 ports. We sail from NYC so a western itinerary is a stretch but maybe our only option.

The forecast is for Category 4 over St. Croix and Puerto Rico now. ugh.
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Carnival Destiny - 10/7/2007 San Juan, St.Thomas, Dominica, Barbados, St.Lucia, Antigua
RCI Explorer of the Seas 10/6/2006 - Bayonne, St. Thomas, St. Maarten, San Juan, Labadee
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#11
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Can anyone tell how bad it will be in Barbados?

Renee
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#12
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Well, it looks like we won't be able to go on our Adventure of the Seas cruise departing Saturday 9/13 from San Juan. We have flights booked to fly from Charlotte on Friday and the Courtyard Isla Verde for Friday night. We do have insurance but am wondering what to do! Need to cancel hotel by 9/20 to avoid charges. And will RCI wait until the very last minute to change itinerary? Too many unanswered questions! And I do feel for those in Maria's path! That totally overshadows my plight! Just hoping the path will shift north!
#13
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Joined Oct 2004
Originally posted by hannahsnana
Well, it looks like we won't be able to go on our Adventure of the Seas cruise departing Saturday 9/13 from San Juan. We have flights booked to fly from Charlotte on Friday and the Courtyard Isla Verde for Friday night. We do have insurance but am wondering what to do! Need to cancel hotel by 9/20 to avoid charges. And will RCI wait until the very last minute to change itinerary? Too many unanswered questions! And I do feel for those in Maria's path! That totally overshadows my plight! Just hoping the path will shift north!
What date?
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#15
Upstate NY near Rochester
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Originally posted by hannahsnana
Mistake on date! September 23, this Saturday !
Do you have trip insurance? It would cover the hotel penalty. If not, call and negotiate. They may be willing to release you from the penalty if the storm prevents you from traveling.
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RCI Explorer of the Seas 10/6/2006 - Bayonne, St. Thomas, St. Maarten, San Juan, Labadee
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#16
Upstate NY near Rochester
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Originally posted by let's go cruising
Can anyone tell how bad it will be in Barbados?

Renee
Barbados is well south of the storm at this point. Should only see a rainy, windy day.
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Rock of Ages Rocks!
NCL Breakaway - 12/3/2017 New York, XSan Juan, St. Thomas, Tortola BVI, St. Maarten, Antigua, St. KittsX Port Canaveral, Great Stirrup Cay, Nassau, XCosta MayaX, Cozumel, Grand Cayman, Ocho Rios (12 days) - Hurricane impacts and medical diversion
NCL Breakaway - 10/9/2016 New York, XBermudaX Port Canaveral, Nassau - Hurricane avoidance
NCL Breakaway - 3/29/2015 New York, Port Canaveral, Great Stirrup Cay, Nassau
Carnival Destiny - 10/7/2007 San Juan, St.Thomas, Dominica, Barbados, St.Lucia, Antigua
RCI Explorer of the Seas 10/6/2006 - Bayonne, St. Thomas, St. Maarten, San Juan, Labadee
RCI Voyager of the Seas 10/7/2005 - Bayonne, Labadee, Ocho Rios, Grand Cayman, Freeport
Carnival Glory 1/15/2005 - Port Canaveral, Key West, Belize, Cozumel, Progreso
RCI Sovereign of the Seas 10/1993 - Miami, San Juan, St. Thomas, and ummmmmm
#17
Upstate NY near Rochester
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See the article posted on itinerary changes already being made as Maria comes in.
https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=8073
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NCL Breakaway - 10/9/2016 New York, XBermudaX Port Canaveral, Nassau - Hurricane avoidance
NCL Breakaway - 3/29/2015 New York, Port Canaveral, Great Stirrup Cay, Nassau
Carnival Destiny - 10/7/2007 San Juan, St.Thomas, Dominica, Barbados, St.Lucia, Antigua
RCI Explorer of the Seas 10/6/2006 - Bayonne, St. Thomas, St. Maarten, San Juan, Labadee
RCI Voyager of the Seas 10/7/2005 - Bayonne, Labadee, Ocho Rios, Grand Cayman, Freeport
Carnival Glory 1/15/2005 - Port Canaveral, Key West, Belize, Cozumel, Progreso
RCI Sovereign of the Seas 10/1993 - Miami, San Juan, St. Thomas, and ummmmmm
#18
Upstate NY near Rochester
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Here is the best GOES-16 image I can find right now. If anyone finds better please post link. I think you can see an eye forming. The final image is about 45 minutes old.
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/prod...1709181000.GIF
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Rock of Ages Rocks!
NCL Breakaway - 12/3/2017 New York, XSan Juan, St. Thomas, Tortola BVI, St. Maarten, Antigua, St. KittsX Port Canaveral, Great Stirrup Cay, Nassau, XCosta MayaX, Cozumel, Grand Cayman, Ocho Rios (12 days) - Hurricane impacts and medical diversion
NCL Breakaway - 10/9/2016 New York, XBermudaX Port Canaveral, Nassau - Hurricane avoidance
NCL Breakaway - 3/29/2015 New York, Port Canaveral, Great Stirrup Cay, Nassau
Carnival Destiny - 10/7/2007 San Juan, St.Thomas, Dominica, Barbados, St.Lucia, Antigua
RCI Explorer of the Seas 10/6/2006 - Bayonne, St. Thomas, St. Maarten, San Juan, Labadee
RCI Voyager of the Seas 10/7/2005 - Bayonne, Labadee, Ocho Rios, Grand Cayman, Freeport
Carnival Glory 1/15/2005 - Port Canaveral, Key West, Belize, Cozumel, Progreso
RCI Sovereign of the Seas 10/1993 - Miami, San Juan, St. Thomas, and ummmmmm
#19
260 Posts
Joined Oct 2004
I feel like we will need a list of ports we CAN visit. It is heartbreaking.

Renee
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#20
Upstate NY near Rochester
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Maria strengthened to Cat 3 as it is hitting the leewards rather than after. It has shifted south which hurts Martinique and spares Guadeloupe. Dominica still in direct path. The shift lessens effects on the rest of the leewards and the BVI and USVI, and may lessen impact to St. Croix. But category 4 soon and that includes crossing Puerto Rico. From there forecast suggests a turn to NW that could still hurt the Turks & Caicos but spare the Bahamas. A little early to be sure though.
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Rock of Ages Rocks!
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NCL Breakaway - 10/9/2016 New York, XBermudaX Port Canaveral, Nassau - Hurricane avoidance
NCL Breakaway - 3/29/2015 New York, Port Canaveral, Great Stirrup Cay, Nassau
Carnival Destiny - 10/7/2007 San Juan, St.Thomas, Dominica, Barbados, St.Lucia, Antigua
RCI Explorer of the Seas 10/6/2006 - Bayonne, St. Thomas, St. Maarten, San Juan, Labadee
RCI Voyager of the Seas 10/7/2005 - Bayonne, Labadee, Ocho Rios, Grand Cayman, Freeport
Carnival Glory 1/15/2005 - Port Canaveral, Key West, Belize, Cozumel, Progreso
RCI Sovereign of the Seas 10/1993 - Miami, San Juan, St. Thomas, and ummmmmm