Incident on Solstice Cruise to nowhere someone's in huge trouble!

We had a somewhat similar situation on a 3 day P&O cruise recently where a life jacket and life buoy were thrown overboard. I don't know if it was someone drunk, or someone just plain stupid or a mix of both.

I was also impressed with how it was handled by the crew and although it was our first taste of cruising it didn't turn me off doing a longer cruise (which we are on Princess in December) but I am not sure I would do a short one again.

But if they banned everybody who acted irresponsibly on a cruise and there wouldn't be many people at sea:D

Just my wife and I, sailing alone.:p

Just my wife and I, sailing alone.:p

And because the bride and I are perfect us too, gee Mic just four of us with all those ships, maybe I could go on one and herself on another hmmmmmm.

I'm sorry but what has

 

 

 

Got to do with this sort of behaviour?

If you ever had to draw a picture of the typical Aussie hooligan with their ridiculous chants and outrageous behaviour then they would look like that. It is the yobbos, hooligans or bogans or however you want to describe them that are often responsible for the decline in standards on party cruises.

I don't think there is a polite way to put it but to be perfectly blunt and frank the yobbos often dress as I describe.

Hmmmmmmm. What a pain for everyone. I think the activation of the beacon is a big issue as is tampering with safety gear. The idiot/s are in a world of pain :mad: and rightly so.

If you ever had to draw a picture of the typical Aussie hooligan with their ridiculous chants and outrageous behaviour then they would look like that. It is the yobbos, hooligans or bogans or however you want to describe them that are often responsible for the decline in standards on party cruises.

 

I don't think there is a polite way to put it but to be perfectly blunt and frank the yobbos often dress as I describe.

Amd so do a lot of people that you wouldn't by any stretch of the imagine call yobbos, hooligans or bogans. I know some highly sophisticated and educated people who dress in the exact manner you describe, especially around a BBQ or going down to the local pub, but then the following day be wearing a Tux to the Opera.

SOLAS does not require an EPIRB beacon in each liferaft, but I've found that there is an Australian requirement for passenger ships to have one in each raft. However, due to the nature of packing of equipment in a raft canister, the EPIRB is not an auto deploy one, but is manually turned on by someone in the raft. Most EPIRB's are "orientation" activated, meaning they are stowed upside down, and when turned upright, they turn on. Because the equipment pack in the raft can be oriented in different ways, and the canister oriented in different ways in it's rack, this kind of EPIRB wouldn't work.

The 35 man raft typical on cruise ships is probably $30-40,000US, and a servicing is $3-4,000US. The rafts are serviced annually.

Just another thought. The first thing that a SAR center does when it receives an EPIRB message, is contact the vessel to see if there is actually an emergency. The ship can then say, "no, some idiot threw a liferaft overboard", and the SAR center goes back to coffee and the crossword. There wouldn't be a fine, or an immediate mobilization of SAR resources. This happens quite frequently when the crew decides to paint the bracket that the bridge EPIRB is mounted in, and sets the EPIRB down on the deck, activating the mercury switch. The deck officer on watch is then embarrassed to have to tell them what happened.

If you ever had to draw a picture of the typical Aussie hooligan with their ridiculous chants and outrageous behaviour then they would look like that. It is the yobbos, hooligans or bogans or however you want to describe them that are often responsible for the decline in standards on party cruises.

 

I don't think there is a polite way to put it but to be perfectly blunt and frank the yobbos often dress as I describe.

Gross generalisation I'm afraid. I'm a 50 year old professional and run my own successful business. On weekends I wear shorts, T shirts and thongs and yes sometimes I'm in bars and have a drink but I'm hardly a yobbo. That sort of dress standard is appropriate and acceptable at certain times and locations. And at other times it's not.

Nationality and dress standard are not exclusive indicators of drunk and boorish behaviou. I've witnessed some appalling behaviour from well dressed people and not just Aussies either.

Gross generalisation I'm afraid. I'm a 50 year old professional and run my own successful business. On weekends I wear shorts, T shirts and thongs and yes sometimes I'm in bars and have a drink but I'm hardly a yobbo. That sort of dress standard is appropriate and acceptable at certain times and locations. And at other times it's not.

 

Nationality and dress standard are not exclusive indicators of drunk and boorish behaviou. I've witnessed some appalling behaviour from well dressed people and not just Aussies either.

I agree on both points, I come from a working class family, miners truck drivers and labourers, I am a professional, and socialise with people from all "classes" [if there be such a thing]. I've been to events with High Court Judges and Billionaires, and with working class people, with them dressed in both Shorts T-shirts and Thongs and Tuxes and guess what, both groups have had people who, no matter how dressed, were what you might call Bogans and some who were absolute ladies and gentlemen.

The saying "You can't judge a book by it's cover" has a reason you know.

Generalisations never do anyone any favours.

Generalisations never do anyone any favours.

In general I'm inclined to agree :D

In general I'm inclined to agree :D

That is good then.:)

I wonder if this really was the action of a Bogan? Have they identified the culprit?

The Bogans I have seen are normally too drunk to muster the required strength to pull of this kind of action.

Could it not have been a case of a “Senior Behaving Badly"...I once saw a group of seniors leading a conga line in there bath robes through the casino on Celebrity Millennium....utterly shocking baviour….it disturbed all those lovely people playing craps.....:eek:

I wonder if this really was the action of a Bogan? Have they identified the culprit?

The Bogans I have seen are normally too drunk to muster the required strength to pull of this kind of action.

Could it not have been a case of a “Senior Behaving Badly"...I once saw a group of seniors leading a conga line in there bath robes through the casino on Celebrity Millennium....utterly shocking baviour….it disturbed all those lovely people playing craps.....:eek:

Good point,

Perhaps they should ban both Bogans and Seniors from cruising.:eek:

Of course that won't leave many on board.:rolleyes:

I wonder if this really was the action of a Bogan? Have they identified the culprit?

The Bogans I have seen are normally too drunk to muster the required strength to pull of this kind of action.

Could it not have been a case of a “Senior Behaving Badly"...I once saw a group of seniors leading a conga line in there bath robes through the casino on Celebrity Millennium....utterly shocking baviour….it disturbed all those lovely people playing craps.....:eek:

I trust the Seniors had their bath robes properly secured, otherwise it would have been a dastardly sight for all. Ye Gods, one can only imagine.

As for the offenders who threw the life raft overboard, with mostly Aussies on board, it is a fair assumption Aussies were the persons of interest.

OMG What would the Cunarders say to this?

I trust the Seniors had their bath robes properly secured, otherwise it would have been a dastardly sight for all. Ye Gods, one can only imagine.

 

As for the offenders who threw the life raft overboard, with mostly Aussies on board, it is a fair assumption Aussies were the persons of interest.

 

OMG What would the Cunarders say to this?

Maybe not so dastardly to other seniors.

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I trust the Seniors had their bath robes properly secured, otherwise it would have been a dastardly sight for all. Ye Gods, one can only imagine.

 

As for the offenders who threw the life raft overboard, with mostly Aussies on board, it is a fair assumption Aussies were the persons of interest.

 

OMG What would the Cunarders say to this?

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"Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" lol...

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"Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" lol...

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Rub, rub, rub.:rolleyes:

It's my understanding that drinks packages are only available on cruises for 4 nights or more.

Gae

 

 

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That is the case for the Royal Caribbean ships but not Celebrity. We did 3 nights on Voyager & Solstice in Jan and was able to buy a drinks package for Solstice but not Voyager:)

 

It was great to see people still dress for dinner on a 3 dayer.

 

Col:)

We've done a few 3 dayers now and people always dress up on formal night and smart casual on other nights. The one thing that surprised me on our recent Radiance cruise was the dress at dinner. Apart from the 3 formal nights, I think there was about 2 smart casual and the rest casual. It wasn't uncommon to see people in shorts & thongs at dinner :(

We had a somewhat similar situation on a 3 day P&O cruise recently where a life jacket and life buoy were thrown overboard. I don't know if it was someone drunk, or someone just plain stupid or a mix of both.

I was also impressed with how it was handled by the crew and although it was our first taste of cruising it didn't turn me off doing a longer cruise (which we are on Princess in December) but I am not sure I would do a short one again.

I think I read somewhere that it was a kid that did that.

We've done a few 3 dayers now and people always dress up on formal night and smart casual on other nights. The one thing that surprised me on our recent Radiance cruise was the dress at dinner. Apart from the 3 formal nights, I think there was about 2 smart casual and the rest casual. It wasn't uncommon to see people in shorts & thongs at dinner :(

Things must have changed. When we went on the Radiance 2 years ago they wouldn't allow anyone in the dining room wearing shorts.

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Things must have changed. When we went on the Radiance 2 years ago they wouldn't allow anyone in the dining room wearing shorts.

 

 

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I was shocked. The first night is always casual on any cruise as not everyone has their bags, second night was formal. Third night, lining up to go in and there were two girls directly in front of us, one was wearing tracksuit pants and the other was wearing the shortest of short denim shorts and thongs. I said to hubby....surely they won't get in....but they did and we saw quite a few throughout the cruise dressed like that for dinner.

I was shocked. The first night is always casual on any cruise as not everyone has their bags, second night was formal. Third night, lining up to go in and there were two girls directly in front of us, one was wearing tracksuit pants and the other was wearing the shortest of short denim shorts and thongs. I said to hubby....surely they won't get in....but they did and we saw quite a few throughout the cruise dressed like that for dinner.

Disgraceful attire for the MDR, what would the P&O UK pax and Cunarders say?

Pax should know the dress regulation when they purchase their fare, there is plenty of information on the website, plus dress codes are printed in ship's newspaper, i.e. 'Princess Patter' and cleary and adequately displayed at the entrance to MDR. No excuse at all for these Bogans to turn up in what they want.

The traditions of cruising are gradually crumbling on some Lines. Don't get me wrong, I am no cruise snob, but the dress regulations are there to be observed and failure to comply also rests with ship's staff.