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#41
Watkinsville, GA
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I'm pretty sure the OP is yanking our chain, but for what it is worth, here is what happened back at New Years on our Rose Bowl trip, any number of which would have ruined a plan like this:
1: We were on the first of 3 flights for the day from Oakland to LA (after flying in the night before from Atlanta.) Flight from LA to Oakland (which was our aircraft never took off due to mechanical.) All 3 flights cancelled. Had to rebook flying out of SF, basically a 1 hour BART trip.
2. Flight from SFO was delayed 15 minutes boarding ( not bad) but then held on tarmac for 30 minutes due to fog in LA
3. When we finally got to the gate in LA it took 10-15 minutes to find someone who could operate the freaking jetway. Net effect deplaned at 7 pm instead of 10:30 AM. The joys of modern air travel.
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Originally posted by KarlChilders
I'm pretty sure the OP is yanking our chain, but for what it is worth, here is what happened back at New Years on our Rose Bowl trip, any number of which would have ruined a plan like this:
1: We were on the first of 3 flights for the day from Oakland to LA (after flying in the night before from Atlanta.) Flight from LA to Oakland (which was our aircraft never took off due to mechanical.) All 3 flights cancelled. Had to rebook flying out of SF, basically a 1 hour BART trip.
2. Flight from SFO was delayed 15 minutes boarding ( not bad) but then held on tarmac for 30 minutes due to fog in LA
3. When we finally got to the gate in LA it took 10-15 minutes to find someone who could operate the freaking jetway. Net effect deplaned at 7 pm instead of 10:30 AM. The joys of modern air travel.

Heck, I just don't like the stress of trying to do a cross country flight waking up at zero dark thirty and then still having to deal with traffic to get somewhere in time. I've had every kind of delay possible on first thing in the morning flights. Plane didn't make it in night before, pilots got in late night before and needed another hour and a half mandated rest, light burnt out on indicator in cockpit that had to be replaced, and the best one - medical diversion when person next to me started to have convulsions mid-flight. Just don't want to deal with it all. Rather fly in evening before and rest before boarding. But everyone is different.
#43
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This person obviously has not spent over an hour sitting in traffic waiting to get into the port area to board the Epic. There is usually a backup to get into the port complex and another to get into the Epic terminal. Then a long walk and another line to go through security. If his plan works once it likely won't work twice. Don't be this guy!
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#44
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Originally posted by ShakeDaddy
Land at 12:20pm on Saturday, it's only a 50 minute ride to the port 30 miles.

At the port by 2:45pm.

Last boarding on the ship by 4:00pm.

Good golly, no need to stay over in pathetic Florida.
Wow I'm used to people pissing on my homeport of NYC. Never heard anyone on CC refer to Florida as pathetic.
#45
Homosassa, Fl and Colunbia, MD
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People, read the whole thread and especially the OP's attempts to keep everyone wound up.

While he may be "planning" to cut it close for his cruise, he is certainly allowing a lot of time for an April Fools thread.
#46
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Originally posted by Homosassa
People, read the whole thread and especially the OP's attempts to keep everyone wound up.

While he may be "planning" to cut it close for his cruise, he is certainly allowing a lot of time for an April Fools thread.



West Coaster here. I'm also adverse to flying in a day early. I totally believe you can mitigate delays, etc. That said, even I flew in the day the last time I went to Orlando. MCO is a freaking madhouse on a weekend. It makes LAX look calm and quiet. I spent most of that day people watching off my airport hotel balcony (the Hyatt; coolest airport hotel setup I've seen so far even if the hotel itself is just meh) and it was nuts.

The MCO to Port in 30 minutes is what makes me think he's a troll. If he had just said it once, I could chalk it up to a mistake, but he keeps harping on it like ManicalCruiser does on the tipping issue.
#47
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Using Google Maps to get the driving distance gives you just that: the driving distance between those two points. Just getting OUT of an airport can be a 10 - 15 minute task when there are a lot of vehicles. And just getting to where your diver can drop you off at the port can be a 10 - 15 minute task the same way.


Not sure where the 4:30 comes from, the website says:
  • Due to security reasons, all guests must be on board 2 hours before sailing.
5:00 sailing - 2 Hours is 3:00pm for all aboard.


Before you can get on board, you needed to go through the following:


Check-In: 10 - 15 minutes to get pictures taken, credit cards swiped, key cards issued, etc.
Health Forms: 5 minutes if not filled out before hand
Security at port: 15 to 30 minutes depending on line...not sure how many security lanes open this close to sailaway
Drop off at port: this can take 15 - 30 minutes depending on line of cars, traffic and porters availability.


If you do the math backwards, to get on board by 3:00 you need to get to port between 1:40 and 2:15.


Drive from MCO once you leave parking lot to port area before you get in queue to get dropped off: 45 minutes (if no traffic delays).


So, now you need to look at what it takes to get from the plane's landing time to inside your car at the exit of the airport. You need to leave MCO parking lot no later than 12:55 or 1:30.


Landing time is sometimes quoted as wheels on ground: allow time for taxi to gate, etc.
Disembarkation: depending on where you are on the plane, plan for 10 - 15 minutes to get off plane once you are at gate.
Depending on gate, distance to where you are meeting shuttle: unknown.


All luggage must be carried on, there is no time to pick up bags or wait for bags to be delivered to carrousel.
Can't risk shuttle, which may wait until full if there are later disembarking ships.
No time to rent car (no time to pick up, drop off or park) so private transportation must be arranged.



So, yeah, if you don't need to use the bathroom in the airport, you might just might be able to make it assuming everything works perfectly.


Good luck, you will definitely need it.
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#48
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Originally posted by FitchburgWIFamily


Using Google Maps to get the driving distance gives you just that: the driving distance between those two points. Just getting OUT of an airport can be a 10 - 15 minute task when there are a lot of vehicles. And just getting to where your diver can drop you off at the port can be a 10 - 15 minute task the same way.


Not sure where the 4:30 comes from, the website says:
  • Due to security reasons, all guests must be on board 2 hours before sailing.
5:00 sailing - 2 Hours is 3:00pm for all aboard.


Before you can get on board, you needed to go through the following:


Check-In: 10 - 15 minutes to get pictures taken, credit cards swiped, key cards issued, etc.
Health Forms: 5 minutes if not filled out before hand
Security at port: 15 to 30 minutes depending on line...not sure how many security lanes open this close to sailaway
Drop off at port: this can take 15 - 30 minutes depending on line of cars, traffic and porters availability.


If you do the math backwards, to get on board by 3:00 you need to get to port between 1:40 and 2:15.


Drive from MCO once you leave parking lot to port area before you get in queue to get dropped off: 45 minutes (if no traffic delays).


So, now you need to look at what it takes to get from the plane's landing time to inside your car at the exit of the airport. You need to leave MCO parking lot no later than 12:55 or 1:30.


Landing time is sometimes quoted as wheels on ground: allow time for taxi to gate, etc.
Disembarkation: depending on where you are on the plane, plan for 10 - 15 minutes to get off plane once you are at gate.
Depending on gate, distance to where you are meeting shuttle: unknown.


All luggage must be carried on, there is no time to pick up bags or wait for bags to be delivered to carrousel.
Can't risk shuttle, which may wait until full if there are later disembarking ships.
No time to rent car (no time to pick up, drop off or park) so private transportation must be arranged.



So, yeah, if you don't need to use the bathroom in the airport, you might just might be able to make it assuming everything works perfectly.


Good luck, you will definitely need it.


And there is no wiggle room on the 2 hours. Something about manifest that need to be checked with Homeland or some such.



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#49
Syracuse, New York
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Originally posted by mjkacmom
The OP is from Arizona, I’m guessing not a lot of weather there? Living under 25 miles from 3 major NE airports, delays and cancellations are common.

Doesn't matter, those planes aren't sitting in some magic garage out back with extras lined up. Of course there is the potential for delays and cancellations at any airport.
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#51
Michigan
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Sure, you might make I️t and chances are you PROBABLY will. However, why would anyone spend thousands of dollars on a cruise and be too cheap to spend as little as $100 for a hotel to insure they will make I️t on time. I️ understand sometimes the are circumstances that don’t let you go a day earlier, but this doesn’t sound like that is the case. $100 is worth I️t just not to worry. This is an ongoing debate.


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#52
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Originally posted by Homosassa
People, read the whole thread and especially the OP's attempts to keep everyone wound up.

While he may be "planning" to cut it close for his cruise, he is certainly allowing a lot of time for an April Fools thread.
I certainly hope this is a hoax. BUT, there are a lot of naive people out there, that do think like this.

I was overnight in Lax a few weeks ago, arriving from a flight from Santiago. I was on an early airport shuttle for a Kona flight the next am- sitting with 2 other parties. BOTH had missed their flights the day prior. One couple was ranting about missing a cruise out of Long Beach, because their short Oakland flight was delayed. They foolishly- thought a 1 hour window was fine, and didn't bother booking the first flight out (I asked them) because it was "early". Could of had 3 possible flights instead of just the 1 they backed themselves into a corner with and lost.

The other couple, were flying in the same day for a Hawaii package deal, that they also missed, no insurance, and a very costly "tour" (no clue why they weren't just renting cars, what they were doing was drive up???)

So, the thinking- it's "ok" is clearly out there.
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#53
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Originally posted by Budget Queen
They foolishly- thought a 1 hour window was fine, and didn't bother booking the first flight out (I asked them) because it was "early". Could of had 3 possible flights instead of just the 1 they backed themselves into a corner with and lost.
That's the key. You have to book the first flight out, or as close as possible, if you're doing same day on the West Coast. Try to avoid any flight past 8 AM. 9 AM is REALLY pushing it, but can be ok, if it's Southwest and it's one of the destinations with flights every hour. It's not the West Coast weather, but planes coming in from out of the area that can cause delays. The first one or two flights out are usually sitting at the airport ready to go, so little chance of weather delays. Plus, that early, and even if mechanical or crazy passenger delays, you've still got time to make it and/or switch planes.
#54
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Originally posted by Shippy MacShipface
I detect a wind up by the OP

Go for it. It's your holiday. Start it any way you want.

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Yep, he IS winding us up with his plan.

Originally posted by DMH15
Just out of curiosity, on your 15 day cruise is it a transatlantic? Where is your first port?


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It's Bermuda.

Let's see if ShakeDaddy has Plan B in place - it's gonna cost him $2,000 - ten times more than it would cost him if he flew in the night before the cruise. And possibly more than the cruise itself.

One way flight to Bermuda is expensive as are 3 nights in hotels plus meals. His cruise gets into Bermuda 10 April.
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#55
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Have you guys not seen the AZ spring weather?? Why wouldn't you think the 1st SWA flight out of Phx isn't going to land at least 20 minutes early, land at 12 nooner or sooner in ORL?? Driving from Airport to Cape C eastbound is soooo pretty easy all the way around.

No need to hurry up a day early and wait for 30 hours.

Won't even even miss same day 3pm Mustard..... Darn !!
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Actually easier than I even originally planned.
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Any small delay and you are screwed, not worth the risk!

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#58
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Thought you guys have rocks.

Even with a delay or two, not too challenging to get to the port in 4 hours
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#59
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As an retired travel agent I would NEVER advocate this plan of yours. I’m taking Koningsdam TA March 28,I live three hours away from FFL and will still drive down the night before,stay at airport hotel.
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Obviously Shakedaddy knows EVERYTHING and lives in a perfect world where saving the extra day and $85-100 for a pre cruise hotel by Orlando airport far outweighs the costs and hassles when his glass house shatters and everything goes wrong.......

Good luck!
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