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#21
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There is conflicting information as to whether or not she was a spring break college student.
UDPs are available to every cruiser.
NCL is not responsible if you get drunk and do something dangerous and stupid.
It’s about time people started taking responsibility for their own actions.
You choose to try to climb down from Deck 16 to 15, or whatever it was, over the railing and you slip, it’s your own stupid fault.
I guess you won’t be cruising on Carnival, RCCL, Celebrity or any of the MM lines going forward.
Try Disney.

Ultimate beverage option is only available for guests 25 and older on sailings from 3/1 - 4/15.


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#22
Canada
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Joined Sep 2005
We just got off this ship today and it was very disappointing. We travelled with two kids who couldn't even swim in the pool because it was taken over by college students and spilling their drinks and empty cups in the pool. We waiting 25 mins for a poolside drink. How could NCL allow this?

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#23
Central ct.
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Originally posted by ColinIllinois
5. The buffet not set up in separate stations causing massive lines to procure food. Another issue is the fact you have to walk outside to gain access to the buffet while you can get there by walking through the passengers hallway not exactly the most convenient or desirable entry to the buffet.

That's not even remotely true.
The lack of a midship elevator makes accessing the buffet and many other areas of the ship more difficult than need be. Why would you design a ship that holds 4000 passengers without a midship elevator is beyond me.
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Originally posted by mjkacmom
UBP used to not be sold to those under 25, I believe, during spring break. I’m guessing people would be mad if it wasn’t offered at a perk during this time period. I remember going on spring break, definitely tons of drinking and no free booze.

This is correct
Ultimate beverage option was only available for guests 25 and older on sailings from 3/1 - 4/15.
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#25
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This was only a 4 day cruise?

IF the case, frankly it was unrealistic to expect anything other that what you got. Short Spring Break cruises, ARE going to have a lot of drunks, and problems. Not sure, why this wasn't even suspected?
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#26
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Originally posted by ElaineKeagy
There is conflicting information as to whether or not she was a spring break college student.
UDPs are available to every cruiser.
NCL is not responsible if you get drunk and do something dangerous and stupid.
It’s about time people started taking responsibility for their own actions.
You choose to try to climb down from Deck 16 to 15, or whatever it was, over the railing and you slip, it’s your own stupid fault.
I guess you won’t be cruising on Carnival, RCCL, Celebrity or any of the MM lines going forward.
Try Disney.

Ultimate beverage option is only available for guests 25 and older on sailings from 3/1 - 4/15.


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Untrue get your facts straight all of the students had the package. In fact many told me NCL had agents on campus selling spring break cruises with the unlimited drinking packages.
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#27
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Originally posted by smeck
The lack of a midship elevator makes accessing the buffet and many other areas of the ship more difficult than need be. Why would you design a ship that holds 4000 passengers without a midship elevator is beyond me.

Ma'am, the forward elevator and the stairs take you right up to the buffet. Unlike what you said earlier you don't JUST have to access the Garden Cafe from outside and you are completely wrong about the buffet not having individual stations. To say that seems quite odd. I really don't understand your complaint unless perhaps you have mobility issues..
#29
California
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Originally posted by smeck
Untrue get your facts straight all of the students had the package. In fact many told me NCL had agents on campus selling spring break cruises with the unlimited drinking packages.


They 100% had it at the age of 22. I talked to many who did. If they had not it would have been way better of a cruise IMO. Like I said I wouldn’t have minded a couple hundred coeds but this was over 2k, basically most the Greek life from one or two schools. It was way more than I would have ever expected. Over half the ship was them.


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#30
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Joined Feb 2014
Sorry to hear about your less than ideal experience.

But it was clearly an exception rather than the norm. I wouldn’t use this isolated experience to make a snap judgement about the entire cruise line. For example I’ve been to beach resorts during spring break and have seen much of the same insanity. However I realized that this was not the usual atmosphere and just the unfortunate consequence of the timing. So I’ve learned to not stay at those resorts during that time.

Also, if they had the UBP age lowered to 22 for the cruise like you mentioned I would think that would have limited it to mostly college seniors or graduate students. Not the majority of undergrads like you suggest. Most students are starting college around 18, right? I didn’t turn 22 until after I had graduated and I was on the same track as my peers.

In any event I’m certain that any moderately priced vacation spot in Florida and the gulf coast are inundated with Spring Break partiers at this time of year so it would behoove anyone who doesn’t want to be exposed to this type of crowd to plan their vacations outside of this timeframe.
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#31
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I think the spring breakers have coloured your view of the Epic unfairly. I know she divides opinion, but things like the buffet not having separate stations isn't even true. There may not be midship lifts, however there are stairs in the atrium so I don't see why people think that's such an issue, unless you are in a wheelchair or chronically lazy. However, I don't blame you for having a miserable time and for that making you biased against everything else. I wouldn't have enjoyed being on board with that crowd either.
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#32
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Originally posted by C cruise
how do you know which rooms have the bed closer to the balcony? I will have room 11051 - and I don't have a clue how to tell..
You have to look at the deck plans and zoom in to see where the walls curve -- if your cabin has the curve on the outside, your bed will be by the balcony, if it's on the other side, bed will be in the middle of the room. And never fear, you picked a cabin with the bed by the balcony:

(Doesn't work, picture is at: https://pix.sfly.com/pEe62W)

Just have pity on your neighbours, they're going to be crabby, dancing past their cabin mates while trying to get ready in the mornings
#33
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"Get off my lawn"

You are in CT (according to your signature) and wasn't aware spring break was in the Feb/Mar time frame? Thats on you.

There are 7284 different threads about the Epic and its layout on this message board. Again, that is on you for not knowing what you are getting into. (I did a 7 day Med cruise on it and found it fine.)

Talking about food is a waste of time. Totally subjective. One person's "awful" is another "just fine" or "very good".
I don't know what your complaint about the buffet is. I spent a week on her and never had to go outside to get to the buffet.

Unless you know ALL the facts about someone falling overboard, you probably should not comment. As we can see in just this thread, someone else who was on you same cruise disputes your claim about her.

You didn't have a good time, fine. Different strokes for different folks. But to blame NCL, for this stuff is unfair. YOU didn't do enough research prior to sailing.
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#34
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Originally posted by C cruise
wow - it really sounds like you had an unfortunate cruise..I wonder if this will make Norwegian rethink their spring break policies... there had to be many "adults and families" whose cruise was ruined by the spring breakers behavior.
Likely not.
Mass-market lines skew to a younger demographic.
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Man, I have this cruise booked in March of 2019 - now I can't wait! Sounds like fun

Somewhat kidding...
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#36
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Originally posted by C cruise
wow - it really sounds like you had an unfortunate cruise..I wonder if this will make Norwegian rethink their spring break policies... there had to be many "adults and families" whose cruise was ruined by the spring breakers behavior.
So, do you think they should discriminate against college age young folks, while all other cruise lines allow them?
#37
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Can anyone comment how the Haven was during this cruise? And if Hanno was concierge?

I came incredibly close to taking this cruise in the DOS we cruised in last year. But decided on Red Rock in Vegas instead. But it was a tough decision.


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#38
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Originally posted by adjensen
You have to look at the deck plans and zoom in to see where the walls curve -- if your cabin has the curve on the outside, your bed will be by the balcony, if it's on the other side, bed will be in the middle of the room. And never fear, you picked a cabin with the bed by the balcony:

(Doesn't work, picture is at: https://pix.sfly.com/pEe62W)

Just have pity on your neighbours, they're going to be crabby, dancing past their cabin mates while trying to get ready in the mornings
thank you for letting me know -- I looked at the wall curve and thought I had the bed by the balcony - you just confirmed it -- I am so happy!!
#39
Florida
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Joined May 2017
Originally posted by NLH Arizona
So, do you think they should discriminate against college age young folks, while all other cruise lines allow them?
No, but maybe they should impose rules and enforce proper behaviour... OR have a warning on their site to people booking -something like .. This time period is during spring break...
#40
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Originally posted by C cruise
No, but maybe they should impose rules and enforce proper behaviour... OR have a warning on their site to people booking -something like .. This time period is during spring break...
It’s spring break! I don’t know how you can not know about school breaks and their impact on travel. Heads up, don’t go to WDW during Christmas week unless you like wall to wall crowds. Do you think companies try to convince people not to buy their product?