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#21
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for the TV addicts...You will have choices...maybe just not the local/affiliate channels. Have you ever noticed ESPN is not shown in your cabin but at the bars/sportsbars?? So obviously the ship has control over what they can subscribe to. And for those major sports fan.... When there is a major sporting event in any of the major professional or NCAA games (ie playoffs)...The ship usually will pickup the International feed. This happened to us on Princess Royal during NCAA semifinals. CBS feed was not available...but games were shown on ESPN feed which likely was International feed
#22
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I expect next to see an upgraded tv package offered per cabin ,, want more tv ,,more $$$ for Carnival ,, after 12 cruises ,we are now looking at different vacation options ..maybe a travel trailer ..week or 2 in Key West
#23
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This is not a make it or break it cut to us. We cruise to relax but we have always watched some TV while on the ship. What I wished they would do is increase the number free movie channels from the two they currently broadcast.
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#24
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Originally posted by Crusin Hogs
I expect next to see an upgraded tv package offered per cabin ,, want more tv ,,more $$$ for Carnival ,, after 12 cruises ,we are now looking at different vacation options ..maybe a travel trailer ..week or 2 in Key West
Funny. Love our travel trailer! And going to Key West this week, too. There is still no doubt that even with upcharges and what not, a Carnival vacation is much cheaper than almost anything land based. To be fair. But yeah, you should look at different options also. Cruising is great but spending a week in the Bahamas is awesome as well.
#25
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Try being on the Fascination in September in the middle of 2 Hurricane's with out major TV coverage. CNN was full blown but the other major networks sure provided a lot more local coverage. Left San Juan and finally ended in Miami. Needed the Major TV network for coverage as Carnival could not keep us fully up to date not their fault just way to much info.
We are sailing again but this cut back is scary.
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#26
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Originally posted by beachbum53
Carnival didn't specifically decide to drop certain stations. They've switched to a different satellite TV system, and the package chosen unfortunately does not include certain networks (probably based on price). I would imagine Carnival looked at it as a way to reduce some overhead and maintain a profit margin that would keep their shareholders happy. Meanwhile, many customers will undoubtedly complain and just see it as "another cutback".
I am a shareholder and have received many of thousands of dollars of OBC. But it is a still a cutback, no other way to view it. You could see network programming in the past, now you cannot.
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#27
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I put my 8 and 9 years old boys to bed by 8pm I term on the tv to watch the news before I go to bed. I go to bed at 10:30 what should I do in the room for 2 1/2 hours by myself? I am a single dad.
#28
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Originally posted by jabberjaw070596
I believe its already been done. We were on the Victory last month and we had the stations at the beginning but towards the end they were gone


I noticed that too that the stations were gone.


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#29
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Is this new cut back just for the TV's in the cabins? We booked the Liberty next month just to watch the SuperBowl on the Lido deck big screen. What about the year round sports in the sports bars. If no SuperBowl, THATS A BIG PROBLEM!!!
#30
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Originally posted by NJ CRUISE
Is this new cut back just for the TV's in the cabins? We booked the Liberty next month just to watch the SuperBowl on the Lido deck big screen. What about the year round sports in the sports bars. If no SuperBowl, THATS A BIG PROBLEM!!!
They will pickup the Superbowl and show on the Pool big screen. ESPN will still be in the sports bar. When we cruised on Vista over Thanksgiving...ESPN was not part of the cabin TV channels but was on at the Sports bar and Casino
#32
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We're thinking about sailing Superbowl weekend, and while our team is completely out of the running, my SO wouldn't be happy if they didn't show it. I can't actually imagine them not showing it on a big screen as well as in the sports bar, I'm not terribly worried.
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#33
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Highly unlikely they'd stop showing major sporting events in the bars. I'm guessing they just aren't wanting to pay the retransmission fees for every cabin on every ship
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#34
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Originally posted by jabberjaw070596
In another big move, Carnival is cutting the cord on showing the ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX networks on in-stateroom TVs. The TVs will still show channels like CNN, TBS, TNT, and the Discovery channel in addition to the ship channels like the lido deck camera and cruise tracking. However, the overall size of the TV guide will be significantly reduced
Ugh. Yet another cutback. Carnival won't be happy until they become Dolphin Cruise line.
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#35
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Originally posted by ladiibug
This is nothing more than another Carnival cutback. Anyone who believes that Carnival did not have the option of including local channels in their new providers package is delusional.
Of course they had the option, however I believe your accusation doesn't factor in the fact that there are two sides to the equation: Carnival cannot include the broadcast networks without paying those networks a retransmission fee, and retransmission fees for the broadcast networks have been skyrocketing. (And yes, the television service aboard cruise ships is subject to similar fees to those described in the article.)

The real question is whether the higher retransmission fees that the broadcast networks have been demanding are warranted given the demand aboard ship. Carnival has decided that passengers would not reward them enough for incurring that cost.

In essence, we passengers are at fault for spending so much time in the casino, in the restaurants, at the pool and walking the decks.
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#36
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Though it's not a deal-breaker for me, it was nice to take a break after dinner and watch a prime time show that we normally watch at home - it also kept me out of the casino for an hour or so. We always DVR anything we really don't want to miss so that's not an issue.

The one nice thing is, I won't have to listen as my sister channel surfs when I'm trying to fall asleep (lol). Now unlike me, she is really going to miss losing those channels.
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One other relevant data point: It was a big deal when television screens were added to seat backs aboard aircraft. For years there there were discussions about when it would extend beyond first class, and then every-seat entertainment systems were the aim. Now, what we're seeing are airlines deciding to, when next rehabbing aircraft interiors, leaving out seat-back entertainment systems. The reality is that so many travelers these days are carrying their own personal entertainment systems. My spouse and I carry aboard four separate devices that could, if we chose to use them that way, present downloaded video entertainment. While it doesn't address the need to watch a broadcast network news broadcast, or a live sporting event on a broadcast network, the fact that so many people are relying on their personal entertainment systems reduces the need for video entertainment provided by the cruise ship/airline to just those live presentations, and that's a lot less of a demand as compared to when many people didn't carry with them their own personal entertainment systems.

As the linked article indicates, some airlines are going in one direction, removing the systems from their aircraft, while others are seeking to capitalize (and remember the root of the word "capitalize" is "capital" which is synonymous with "money" - so read: "monetize") their seat-back entertainment systems. The question is how will you as a passenger motivate (again, when you see "motivate" read "give money to") the airline in response to their offering seat-back entertainment as they have been in the past, now that there isn't enough motivation coming from just being there for you? And reflexively, what would it take to have Carnival offer broadcast networks again? Clearly, again, there would have to be some kind of movitivation (i.e., "money") rather than just expectation.
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#38
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Originally posted by sc4125
it also kept me out of the casino for an hour or so.
Since CCL wants to get you to spend as much time in the casino as possible that's probably not a good argument to make in order to make them pay for the channels that are being cut.

I cruise to get away from the real world for awhile so I won't miss the channels at all.
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Originally posted by bUU
In essence, we passengers are at fault for spending so much time in the casino, in the restaurants, at the pool and walking the decks.
To follow your train of thought, do you think Carnival evaluated this measure and is thinking that perhaps it will drive folks from their cabins back into the public areas where they will spend money?
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Originally posted by Keys2Heaven
To follow your train of thought, do you think Carnival evaluated this measure and is thinking that perhaps it will drive folks from their cabins back into the public areas where they will spend money?
That’s what I’m thinking. The same reason they don’t have espn in the cabins. They want you watching the game at a bar.
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