monk888 Posted March 25, 2005 #101 Share Posted March 25, 2005 [quote name='Rosa Lopez']I guess the ads do work, however by doing minimal research you learn what a horrible industry the "Cruise Co.s" are. Not just because they have a bad customer service record, but what they do environmentaly and in terms of human rights abuse. The parts of the ships the public sees are a fantasy, the reality is the underbelly. Do not even bother to reply to this, instead go do some research on this corrupt industry and if after learning, you continue to sail away it wont be because you are ignorant.Signed: Aware and with a conscience[/QUOTE] That's just great. Come up here on a Cruise Discussion Forum, tell everyone here who likes to cruise that they are supporting a "corrupt industry", tell your side of the story and then shut down the debate and refuse to defend your position. Your "courage" is overwhelming. The last time I checked, slavery was abolished and it's been some time since anyone got "shanghaied" and forced to work on board a cruise ship. Anyone working on a cruise ship is there because THEY CHOSE TO BE THERE. Please don't lecture us all about the long hours and tough conditions. If anyone on any ship does not want to do that kind of work, they can walk away at any time. Please refrain from your self-appointed holier than thou lectures. If you have moral objections to supporting the cruising industry, may I respectfully suggest the following course of action: Don't take a cruise! However, don't come up here to insult all the rest of us, calling us "ignorant" and without a conscience simply because our position differs from yours. Your intolerance and disdain of anyone's position other than your own makes it quite apparent that there's not one little opening in that closed mind of yours. I leave you with the words of the great Bernie Taupin, songwriting partner to Elton John, from the "GoodBye Yellow Brick Road" album: Tell me, Grey Seal, How does it feel to be so wise? To see through eyes that only see what's real? Tell me, Grey Seal. The Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Cruiser Posted March 25, 2005 #102 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Why would "Rosa Lopez" be reading a web site dedicated to cruising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catnip Posted March 25, 2005 #103 Share Posted March 25, 2005 monk888, My thoughts, exactly!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahracer Posted March 25, 2005 #104 Share Posted March 25, 2005 [quote name='Rosa Lopez']I guess the ads do work, however by doing minimal research you learn what a horrible industry the "Cruise Co.s" are. Not just because they have a bad customer service record, but what they do environmentaly and in terms of human rights abuse. The parts of the ships the public sees are a fantasy, the reality is the underbelly. Do not even bother to reply to this, instead go do some research on this corrupt industry and if after learning, you continue to sail away it wont be because you are ignorant. Signed: Aware and with a conscience[/QUOTE] Wow, thanks for pointing this out. I had no idea but now that I do I just called Princess and cancelled my cruises. I'm letting my friends know so they can all cancel their cruises also. Is there any other industries out there that I should be aware of and avoid doing business with?? Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coiran Posted March 25, 2005 #105 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Don't cancel yet - there is a good rate going for cabinbs on "Z" deck - all meals are served to you while you are rowing! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongerob Posted March 25, 2005 #106 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Scott - I have cancelled my cruises, sold my cars, beaten my swords into ploughshares, and I'm getting ready to cancel the phone and electricity. So tell me, how did people use the internet before there was electricity, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coiran Posted March 25, 2005 #107 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Spongerob - How did people communicate before cellphones? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahracer Posted March 25, 2005 #108 Share Posted March 25, 2005 [quote name='coiran']Spongerob - How did people communicate before cellphones? Ron[/QUOTE] Smoke signals...oh wait that means cutting down trees and air pollution. Heck I'm going to live in a cave. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted March 25, 2005 #109 Share Posted March 25, 2005 [b][color=black]Rob.. Wish I could respond, but I threw my computer away before I shut off the electricity.. I guess I can fill my pool with dirt so I can grow my own food..[/color][/b] :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted March 25, 2005 #110 Share Posted March 25, 2005 [b][font=Comic Sans MS][color=darkred]hmmm Who is Rosa Lopez? [/color][/font][/b] [b][font=Comic Sans MS][color=darkred]Could it be the Rosa Lopez who was OJ Simpon's housekeeper ? Probably not.[/color][/font][/b] [b][font=Comic Sans MS][color=darkred]Could it be the Rosa Lopez that posted 4 times in April 1997 on the rec.travel newsgroups about vacationing in Belize and Rarotonga? Maybe ??? [/color][/font][/b] [b][font=Comic Sans MS][color=darkred][/color][/font][/b] [b][font=Comic Sans MS][color=darkred]Isn't Google wonderful?[/color][/font][/b] :D :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druke I Posted March 25, 2005 #111 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Time to let this thread peter out, or perhaps the Host(ess) should close it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catnip Posted March 25, 2005 #112 Share Posted March 25, 2005 WHY close it? We are just having a little fun!!!!!!!!! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeniceglassman Posted March 25, 2005 #113 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Dear Nita, The OP posted once and just as this was winding down comes another 1st post, off topic, but sure to generate responses. AKA "One Post Wonders" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holidayathesea Posted March 25, 2005 #114 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Do you think it is really necessary to buy cruise insurance? I am going on a cruise with a large amount of people in December and we've already booked the cruise, do you think that with such a large group it is necessary? As of right now, I believe my grandparents are the only ones to buy the cruise insurance in case one of them falls ill prior to the cruise. Also, is it too late to buy insurance? Any idea roundabouts on prices? I mean is it like $300 pp or....150 or...? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjboothman Posted March 25, 2005 #115 Share Posted March 25, 2005 If one of the grandparents fell seriously ill, how many other family members would cancel also? There are lots of reasons to buy cruise insurance aside from the cancellation of the cruise. I believe Princess Care is $99/pp for trips up to $1,500 and $129pp for more than $1,500 - but I don't know what the upper limit is (you can find it on the Princess page if you do a search). I would not travel without it. Having to be treated for a medical condition in a foreign country or airlifted back to the U.S. would be major reasons, in addition to trip cancellation or interruption insurance. It is not too late to buy it - call Princess or your TA. There are certain providers who require that you buy it 7-21 days after booking to include pre-existing health conditions, not sure if that's a Princess rule or not. You may want to check out [url="http://www.insuremytrip.com"]www.insuremytrip.com[/url] to compare prices; some may be cheaper than Princess but keep in mind that Princess covers cancellation for any reason and other insurers do not; however Princess will not reimburse the cruisefare they will credit it to a future cruise. Lots to learn about insurance - check with a good TA or call Princess if you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
envy4u Posted March 25, 2005 #116 Share Posted March 25, 2005 I too was disappointed with the response I received from Princess in regards to my concerns and complaints . It took several months and several people before I even received a letter and for all that aggravaion the wanted to give us 50.00 per person . Well you know what they can do with that. It would have to be a fabulous give away before I ever sailed with them again . They say the best form of advertisement is through word of mouth . They are failing miserably . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc51 Posted March 25, 2005 #117 Share Posted March 25, 2005 [quote name='CroozBlooz']JudyO, I disagree with you that if Princess makes an exception for the OP they need to do so for everyone. That's why humans have the ability to reason and use judgment. [/QUOTE] Or if you put it in another way.... humans have the ability to whine and complain!! and not take accountability for their own actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc51 Posted March 25, 2005 #118 Share Posted March 25, 2005 [quote name='CroozBlooz']Dave/Westwind, Interesting, though, the OP hasn't replied to the thread since the original post. Hmmmm.......[/QUOTE] Maybe it was a USENET user trolling here instead of the news groups... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitaBcruising Posted March 25, 2005 #119 Share Posted March 25, 2005 [quote name='jeniceglassman']Dear Nita, The OP posted once and just as this was winding down comes another 1st post, off topic, but sure to generate responses. AKA "One Post Wonders"[/QUOTE] Jenice, thanks! My confusion was over WHY someone would post such a ridiculous reply, period! :eek: And, why would they be on a cruise board, if they don't cruise? Another disgruntled person, maybe! :rolleyes: Largin, great googling! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEinTIME Posted March 26, 2005 #120 Share Posted March 26, 2005 Interesting how both screen names only have a single post on the entire Cruise Critic board and that the names were created within a short time of their only post?? Sad…………… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitaBcruising Posted March 26, 2005 #121 Share Posted March 26, 2005 Interesting how both screen names only have a single post on the entire Cruise Critic board and that the names were created within a short time of their only post?? Sad…………… I think some folks just come here, to cause a stir! Works well, too. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Di Posted March 26, 2005 #122 Share Posted March 26, 2005 Did it occur to anyone else that # 97 IS #1?? It's a Troll in Pax Clothing (or a thong). :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynda90 Posted March 26, 2005 #123 Share Posted March 26, 2005 Did it occur to anyone else that # 97 IS #1?? It's a Troll in Pax Clothing (or a thong). :eek: Interesting thought. :cool: I guess we'll never know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorcalGuy Posted March 27, 2005 #124 Share Posted March 27, 2005 I guess the ads do work, however by doing minimal research you learn what a horrible industry the "Cruise Co.s" aredo environmentaly and in terms of human rights abuse Wow, was that abrupt. If you sincerely wanted to educate us, and took the trouble to post here, why didn't you also include some "Links" to other Web sites for us to check out these claims? We are Web people here. That would seem a natural way to further your arguments...but you are probably not listening by now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAJOKG Posted March 27, 2005 #125 Share Posted March 27, 2005 When u get right down to it.. we know to buy insurance, thats not the point. Everything everywhere has lost its personal touch. Princess can re book a stateroom with no probelm..It all comes down to corporate greed. My sympathies are with the original OP regarding the health problem. However, the rules are clearly stated and if corporations (i.e. cruiselines) broke the rule for one, it would set a very expensive precedent. We have been traveling world wide since the 1970's and these rules apply to tour companies, air lines, as well as cruise lines since then. Clients do have a responsibility to protect themselves from the unexpected and should not expect the "corporations" to take the hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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