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Westerdam Review by 1st time cruiser

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Thanks to all the postings here over the last few months. Lurking taught me a lot. One lesson I didn't learn was to complain. I'm on vacation, unless there was something horrible, I just went with the flow.

 

My wife and I returned from our 1st cruise, ever, on the Westerdam, 3-20 to 3-27. We are an early 40's couple, we both work and the cruise was a vacation from the schedules and pressures of very busy but fulfilling lives.

 

The cruise was better than the sum of it's parts. We enjoyed our 1st cruise and would do it again. Just maybe not with HAL. We are both fairly well travelled adults, both resorts and sightseeing, in America, Europe and Asia. The Westerdam is a Dam Fine Ship, though not neccessarily a luxury liner.

 

Embarkation. Not bad, but leaving your baggage on the curb is a little unsettling. OJ & Water in paper cups. Not very classy. small bottles of water is the minimum, Rum punch is luxury and Champagne is sublime.

 

Cabin: SS deck 6 Port side. Excellent. Having never been on a cruise ship the cabin seemed tiny compared with a land resort, but it's an unfair comparison and one we made throught out. Nice bed, lots of storage for a week or 2. Bathroom was a good size and the cabin stewards did a fine job. No complaints. Veranda was nice to sit out and watch the sun sets or just relax. I would never cruise in a smaller cabin or one without a veranda. We saw the smaller and larger cabins and thought the SS was perfect for 2 people.

 

Food. Main dining, latest seating. It was like a wedding supper every night. The service was professional, indifferent and fast. It was like they couldn't wait to get us out. The wine steward was told the first night that neither we nor our dining companions(strangers before the trip but nice), were drinking alcohol. Yet every night he came by and asked for our selection. Every night one of the 4 of us was either served something we didn't order or the staff forgot to serve something we did order, a salad here, a soup there confusing main course selections. The food was beautifully presented, and was pretty good, but nothing spectacular. But we did understand they were preparing a banquet every night not a gourmet meal. As long as well adjusted our expectations it was fine. Dessert was bland. A 9 yearold boy was explaining to his grandmother what the baked Alaska was, he said it was Neopolitan Ice Cream with whipped cream and he didn't understand why the adults was screaming and waving napkins. I told the grandmother that her grandson was exceptionally bright. 2 formal nights, 1 informal and the rest casual. At the late seating the dresscode was unfailingly observed. The later the seating was devoid of the very old and the very young.:) The espresso in the main dining room was great, but you'd think that they would have learned that's what I ordered every night. What so many people posted about here was the staff learns your preferences and you don't have to ask. That never happened.

 

We ate at the Pinnacle the first formal night. It was truely wonderful. We prebooked it, thank goodness, because after the 2nd night it was sold out. If the Pinnacle was a restuarant in my area, I would go. As a matter of fact, the Captain ate at the Pinnacle the night we were there. Great service, Great food.

 

Breakfast at the Lido. Very good, good selection, well prepared. Except they ran out of large bagels after 3 days and guava juice after 4. Smoked salmon was good, excellent omletes, and fruit, thought the pineapple was never ripe.It's a good thing they have redundent lines on both sides of the ship. If you get behind some of the elderly, it could be a long wait. Between the explanations of how things should be cooked and then changing minds and then explaining to the spouce what they are permitted and how the spouces food shold be prepared, breakfast almost merged into lunch.

 

Lunch buffet was great, either the grill or the buffet. We never ate in the dining room for breakfast or lunch. We either were by the pool or on shore.

 

It's stupid and insulting to pay for soda at meals. Raise the price of the cruise $7.50. I don't drink it, and my wife does only occassionally but still, come on. She got the soda sticker, but they never brought a can of soda around the pool and they never hurried with the soda becasue they didn't make money or tips. When I ordered a beer or a gin-n-tonic around the pool, they came back real quick.

 

We never did the late night buffet as our dinner was 8:30. Never did the tea. The Windstar coffees were average, Starbucks/Caribou quality, though they never served it quite hot enough.

 

to be continued

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We were on Westerdam the week before you and I had to laugh at some of your descriptions! The breakfast line was a trial some mornings ... and the coffee was not good. I got at least one Windstar espresso a day just to keep myself cheerful.

 

It was our first cruise as well and we had 2 kids with us which presented some challenges. We had adjoining verandah staterooms which were teeny-tiny - I think next time we'll spring for the suite and leave the kids with Grandma:) The kids liked the kids program, though in my view it was pretty minimal. They mostly hung out with their cousins and badgered us for virgin Pina Coladas.

 

The service was fantastic for the most part, and I commend the crew for their continual cheerfulness in the face of a very long work day. My one complaint about the service was that they didn't clean up the pool area tables very quickly, and we often had lots of dirty dishes piling up around us at lunchtime. Our cabin steward was fine, and it was amazing to have the room cleaned twice a day. A real treat.

 

We were also at the 8:00 dinner seating, and I thought people dressed up like crazy, even on casual nights. I was glad I'd fussed over my wardrobe as much as I did. Our wine steward loved us because our group had brought our own wine on board and paid major corkage fees. He hovered around our table hoping for a wee taste of some of our bottles, and we got rather friendly with him (Hello, Neil!). We didn't have any problems with the food or service in the dining room. I thought the Baked Alaska was the worst dessert of the week, in spite of the elaborate floor show (the Valhrona chocolate souffle was to die for and deserved a song and dance number of its own).

 

I found the quantity of food on offer a bit daunting and by mid-week had pretty much sworn off red meat of any kind. We had one meal at the Pinnacle which was lovely, if a little long.

 

We had come on the cruise with a group of about 30, so there was always someone we knew hanging around - that made it more fun. You did have to fight for Lido Pool chairs, especially on sea days, but we managed to find nice places to gather most days.

 

I had few expectations, and found it generally more comfortable and relaxing than I'd expected. Beat staying home in the cold, for sure.

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Service: Very good. I made sure to introduce myself to the cabin steward and made sure he addressed me by my first name. Cabin service was unobtrusive and professional. Except for the main dining room service was wonderful and cheerful. They should do a more cleaning around the pool areas and a little less drink selling. 10 am is a little early for bar service, but they could pick up after the people who ate breakfast around the pool and left their dirty dishes.

 

Entertainment: Very Catskill circa 1963, from what I'm told and some of the passengers at the shows were old in '63. The magician was great the comic stole Don Rickel's act. We only saw parts of the 2 Vegas shows and none of the Westerdam Superstar/American Idol shows, we're told they were very good, funny and well attended.

 

Bingo and other indoor activities: we didn't go to any.

 

We loved the casino. great fun and great people, except for 1 guy whom no one else liked. The dealers were good, bad and funny but it made for a great experience. The Soprts Bar was well attended on NCAA tournement games.

 

Pool. WAY TOO CROWDED, WAY TOO MANY SAVED CHAIRS. The areas above the pool however were great. We love sitting out, reading and watching the sea. Our favorite passtime. BUT TOO CROWDED.

 

Some of the people we met said the cruise was the best they ever were on and they were veteran cruisers, no one had a bad time though some said they wouldn't sail HAL again, but others said the same thing about other lines. However everyone who sailed Radisson in the past said it was the best.

 

Excursions: We didn't go to Nassau, in port at 7am and out at noon, WHY EVEN STOP.

St. Martin, we just shopped in port. Adivse is do as many excursions as possible it makes the cruise or don't get off the boat

Tortola: did the Virgin Islands Sail Away, great day for a sail and a snorkle. Too short but oh well it was fun, sunny and a good time.

Half Moon: Did the horseback riding. GREAT but also too short BUT STILL GREAT. Half moon was very nice, though they did sell us a clam shell and didn't haven't any available when we wanted it. Which sucked on their part since they knew we were horseback riding and didn't reserve us one.

 

Just another example of being nickeled and dimed to death.

Soda, Windstar Coffee, Umbrellas, floats and snorkel gear should be part of the cruise fee.

 

Never saw the gym or the massage stuff but never heard a good word about the spa, only complaints about outragous prices for minimal service.

 

I've had better rooms, better food, better entertainment, better pools, better beaches but if you add it up the Westerdam was dam good and better than its parts.

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We'll take our first HAL cruise on the Westerdam on 4/10. We're booked in ss6052 -- is that near yours? Any indepth comments you can make on the suite? Was there a curtain to divide the bedroom from living room if you wanted?

 

We've only sailed once before -- last year on the Dawn Princess and loved the service, food, etc. We only wanted a 7 night cruise and this year they were not offering it. So we went with the Westerdam as the room is similar in size to our mini-suite on the Dawn.

 

I'm disappointed with people's comments on the food/service in the main dining room. That's an important part of the cruise for us.

 

Currently we're booked in the Pinnacle on the first night and thought if we enjoyed it we could book another night there once on board. Do you think that's possible or does it book up too quickly.

 

We're the late seating (upstairs) in the main dining room. On the Dawn we enjoyed eating breakfasts and lunches in the main dining room also. Hope we won't be disappointed.

 

We did order room service for coffee and juice as soon as we got up (about 6:30 a.m. -- is that an option too and then onto the main dining room?

 

Thanks in advance for whatever tips you can provide.

 

Lois

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Was also on Westerdam last week. I told a friend today that the week had been a Vanilla experience. Nothing too exciting. But, nothing overly offensive. I agree, they nickel and dime you to death. Even most of the fitness exercise classes came with a price. The spa was overpriced and the services were not up to par with other spas I've used.

 

Favorite part of ship: Fitness equipment better than average for a small space.

Favorite port: Half Moon Cay -- though having to pay for "shade" was a bummer.

Food: So-so -- I've had worse

Room: Dirty. Wanted so bad to ask steward to just bring me the vacuum. (I'm not the perfect housekeeper but I could have done better.) I suspect the crew is overworked and doing the best they can.

CLUB HAL: Not geared at all for teenagers. Young teens were bored.

Companions: Met so many wonderful friendly folks.

If there is a next time: NO HAL sponsored shore excursions -- all a rip-off. And, late seating. Will definately have a balcony room.

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We'll take our first HAL cruise on the Westerdam on 4/10. We're booked in ss6052 -- is that near yours? Any indepth comments you can make on the suite? Was there a curtain to divide the bedroom from living room if you wanted?

 

We've only sailed once before -- last year on the Dawn Princess and loved the service, food, etc. We only wanted a 7 night cruise and this year they were not offering it. So we went with the Westerdam as the room is similar in size to our mini-suite on the Dawn.

 

I'm disappointed with people's comments on the food/service in the main dining room. That's an important part of the cruise for us.

 

Currently we're booked in the Pinnacle on the first night and thought if we enjoyed it we could book another night there once on board. Do you think that's possible or does it book up too quickly.

 

We're the late seating (upstairs) in the main dining room. On the Dawn we enjoyed eating breakfasts and lunches in the main dining room also. Hope we won't be disappointed.

 

We did order room service for coffee and juice as soon as we got up (about 6:30 a.m. -- is that an option too and then onto the main dining room?

 

Thanks in advance for whatever tips you can provide.

 

Lois

 

The SS on deck 6 are great. We were very concerned about room size. We spend the late afternoons in our room since we eat late and found the SS to be very comfortable for 2 people. 3 closets and good drawer space. Good size bathroom, the extra shower comes in handy. The foot of the bed begins the living room. A comfortable leather couch and 2 leather chairs that really serve to put things on. The TV is oddly placed, off to the side. There is no flat screen TV it's a regular TV. We chose the 8:30 seating. it was fine. But never again a table for 4. Either get a table for 2 or 6. The 8:30 is perfect to get to any show. Order multiple appetizers, they're the best on the menu. Dining in the main dining room is like going to a good wedding, you gete a few choices but everything is just about pre-prepared.

 

We only ate breakfast in the Lido, excellent choice, or room service. No problem with the service, but they are very literal in reading your order. If you check butter, you get 1 butter. They are very timely and seem to be very concerned about getting there on time.

 

Our room was clean, always. Good turn down service. The little chocolate was OK, but the chocolate bark in the Explorer Lounge was better. (on your right leaving the main dining room. I never saw a flamba dessert being made there, though there were always people there and the supplies.

 

I spoke to people about Club HAL since we didn't take out kids, no one was overjoyed with it and from the amount of kids in the pools with their parents, it wasn't always well attended. Though many kids did seem to find friends and roam the ship.

 

The shopping on board wasn't great, but then who really cares about that.

 

They did respond the smokey casinos by prohibiting smoking in the casino between 7 & 9:30. The blackjack tournment was popular.

 

Book the Pinnacle for at least 2 nights and do it in advance. Avoid the Pinnacle the first night, it was very crowded and people seemed to be very dressed down that night. The Pinnacle is the time to dress up, it's worth it. The large filet is special. Avoid the creme brule, not great.

 

It's a good time. Try listening to other people, the old people always complain about those darn kids and always talk about the other cruises they've been on rather than enjoying the one they are currently on. I'd say it was an even split between baby strollers and walkers/wheel chairs.

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What other night would be good to book the Pinnacle (based on the food in the main dining room. We want to be in the main dining room I would think for the formal nights -- or would the first formal night be better in the Pinnacle???

 

We've already paid for the first night in the Pinnacle as it was less and we thought we'd check it out.

 

Regarding no smoking in the casino from 7 - 9 pm??? Are they enforcing this or is there an area for the smokers (our friend is a smoker). I'm sure he'll just go out of the casino from time to time if he has to.

 

1st Mate - your replies are very helpful.

 

Lois

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What other night would be good to book the Pinnacle (based on the food in the main dining room. We want to be in the main dining room I would think for the formal nights -- or would the first formal night be better in the Pinnacle???

 

We've already paid for the first night in the Pinnacle as it was less and we thought we'd check it out.

 

Regarding no smoking in the casino from 7 - 9 pm??? Are they enforcing this or is there an area for the smokers (our friend is a smoker). I'm sure he'll just go out of the casino from time to time if he has to.

 

1st Mate - your replies are very helpful.

 

Lois

 

Our formal nights were Monday and Friday, the second and sixth night. We were in the Pinnacle on the first formal night and missed the Chataeubriannd but still had a better meal. The last night in the main dining room the menu was the least inviting and we ate in the Lido. Remember that the Pinnacle menu never changes. So what you see the ifrst night will be there the second night. There is a ribs-steak and chicken Bar-B-Que style buffet in the middle of the week and the main ding room menu wasn't exciting and we chose to eat the ribs, a smart move on our part. I guess the best rule is, any night in the Pinnacle is preferable to the mani dining room.

 

The nonsmoking hours in the Casino was completely observed. The casino is adjacent to bothe the sports bar and the disco, both smoking areas so there's a lot of smoking there.

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You might do a cruise on another line and decide HAL is for you. Before you give up I would try another class ship. By the way I frequently opt for the Lido for the alternate dinner and have found it quite acceptable. My reason is that I usually go second sitting and that is hard when you are trying to control Blood Sugars. I sometimes eat heavier at noon and just do a salad at the evening meal.

 

Himself

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Lois you might want to checkout the Roll Call Thread on this cruise. We're up to maybe 50 people!

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We too were on the March 20-27 cruise. We are very experienced cruisers but this was our first HAL. Although I have to say up front we had wonderful week, as we always do, I don't think Hal lives up to the hype on the food or service. We had the second first sitting and the service was slow and the food cold. There was another couple at our table on their first cruise and I was actually embarrassed at the treatment they received. They sent back a steak one night because it was way too rare and we were through with desert before they got another plate of food. On another night they sat there with their menus waiting to order for what seemed like the entire evening. In the past on other lines when we orderd iced tea and lemons for my water on the first night every night after that it automatically appeared. But this week we were still asking for iced tea and lemons on the last night. This may seem petty but like I said we know better and it was disappointing but even a disappointing cruise is better than none. The Lido was great although they did run out of a few items no one was starving. The barbeque mid week was great and the food on Half Moon was the same. The ship was beautiful and we had no problems with room or our steward. Nassau was Nassau but we did find a new Pirates Museum that was really cool. It's a couple blocks off Front st and is like walking through Pirates of the Carribean at Disney. A big purple building and well worth a visit (for 12.00). St Maarten's was way too crowded, there were six ships in and it was like one big flea market, but the prices were the best of any place we visited for souvenirs. We'd been there before and didn't do a tour but that would have at least gotten you out of town. Tortola was absolutly beautiful, like St Thomas about 20 years ago. Half Moon was nice, clean and organized. We would and probably will sail Hal again in the future but won't believe the hype anymore. They also need to stock some Dam Ship t-shirt, all they had on board was mustard color in size small.

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I am wondering if the service in the dining room varies depending on the length of the cruise. I've been on a number of HAL cruises now, and I have found that the 7 day cruises the staff is rushed and never really gets to know you or remembers your tastes, but on the longer cruises it's just the opposite. I'm about ready to head out on the Westerdam for a 15 day across the Atlantic. I sure hope the dining room service improves over what you say you just experienced on your 7 day Caribbean.

 

I've also got an SS booked on deck 6, ss6098. Looking forward to it. Did you find it a good deck to be on, relative to accessibility to the other decks?

 

--Sherita

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I am wondering if the service in the dining room varies depending on the length of the cruise.

 

No, I'm convinced it depends on which ship you're on. Some ships simply have the better staff and crew. Over the past year, I've seen more complaints about service on the Zuiderdaqm than any other 2 HAL ships put together. Lately, though, the Westerdam is catching up. Less you think it's a problem with the larger, Vista-class ships, though, the 3rd Vista-class, the Oosterdam, gets high marks for service & food from just about everyone who trys her - even for 7-day cruises.

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In a previous post, it was mentioned that shorter cruises may suffer in the service dept as compared to longer cruises. Well, our 10 day cruise aboard the Maasdam last month left us as unsatisfied customers. See our review: Our Maasdam Cruise.

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No, I'm convinced it depends on which ship you're on. Some ships simply have the better staff and crew. Over the past year, I've seen more complaints about service on the Zuiderdaqm than any other 2 HAL ships put together. Lately, though, the Westerdam is catching up. Less you think it's a problem with the larger, Vista-class ships, though, the 3rd Vista-class, the Oosterdam, gets high marks for service & food from just about everyone who trys her - even for 7-day cruises.

 

I think you may be on to something, the Vista Class ships apparently were designed for a different class of passenger than HAL's previous ships, families and working professionals looking for a week's vacation in the Caribbean, Mexica or Alaska. Not HAL's traditional cruisers who are not vacationers but those who consider cruising to be a hobby or for more extended tours. With a different customer comes different expectations. Those that seek a cruise as a vacation alternative to a land based resort or European sightseeing vacation may have more demanding expectations or are less tolerant of miscues than those who have more time to spend rather than money.

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I think you may be on to something, the Vista Class ships apparently were designed for a different class of passenger than HAL's previous ships, families and working professionals looking for a week's vacation in the Caribbean, Mexica or Alaska. Not HAL's traditional cruisers who are not vacationers but those who consider cruising to be a hobby or for more extended tours. With a different customer comes different expectations. Those that seek a cruise as a vacation alternative to a land based resort or European sightseeing vacation may have more demanding expectations or are less tolerant of miscues than those who have more time to spend rather than money.

 

That's not at all what I was implying, in fact quite the opposite. Long-time cruisers are very demanding in what they see as the amenities of a cruise. New-to-cruising pax seem to be looking for Morton's food at MacDonald's prices - with skating rinks, climbing walls and other "grown-up's playground" equipment tossed in. You can either get the cheap prices that cut-throat Caribbean competition has led the public to expect, or classy service-oriented ambience that long-time cruisers expect. But no company can do both and remain profitable.

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No, I'm convinced it depends on which ship you're on. Some ships simply have the better staff and crew. Over the past year, I've seen more complaints about service on the Zuiderdaqm than any other 2 HAL ships put together. Lately, though, the Westerdam is catching up. Less you think it's a problem with the larger, Vista-class ships, though, the 3rd Vista-class, the Oosterdam, gets high marks for service & food from just about everyone who trys her - even for 7-day cruises.

 

Dave, I totally agree with you. It definitely does depend on what ship. IMHO I feel it has a lot to do with Upper Management of that ship and the general attitude of the crew members because of the Management. It was extremely obvious when we were on the Westerdam. We ran into many crew members that we remembered from the Oosterdam, I felt as though many wished they were still on the Oosterdam. The Oosterdam had wonderful service and the crew was wonderful. When we were on the Ryndam it was perfect and the crew were so happy. The Westerdam was as though we were on a different cruise line, with the exception of many of the HAL things we love. We still liked our cruise on the Westerdam but I just do not have the "Warm Fuzzy" feeling about the ship. I really hope it is something that HAL can change over time.

 

Over all I do not think it has to do with being a Vista Class Ship as Dave said the Oosterdam has had nothing but praise so I think HAL needs to take a look at what is making the Oosterdam do so well and where the Westerdam is falling.

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What other night would be good to book the Pinnacle (based on the food in the main dining room. We want to be in the main dining room I would think for the formal nights -- or would the first formal night be better in the Pinnacle???

 

Lois, you asked what night would be a good night to go to the Pinnacle. It depends on if you are doing Westerdam or Eastern Caribbean. On the Westerdam we went the first night but the menu in the Main Dining Room is actually pretty good that night and I am not so sure I wil do that again, but may be we will. We also went Friday night when were were in Cozumel. The menu for that night was really boring and after seeing the menu we were glad we choose the Pinnacle that night. But then that is also the night of the BBQ and many also like to eat in port.

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We did book the first night as it was less expensive.

 

When you mention barbeque on the Cozumel day -- which restaurant (or where) is the barbeque held.

 

Is the menu the same every night in the Pinnacle?

 

Also - is it open for lunch, and if so, what charge?

 

Did you feel it was that much better than the Main Dining Room?

 

I'm looking forward to some lobster tails and shrimp cocktail

 

Lois

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We did book the first night as it was less expensive.

 

When you mention barbeque on the Cozumel day -- which restaurant (or where) is the barbeque held.

 

Is the menu the same every night in the Pinnacle?

 

Also - is it open for lunch, and if so, what charge?

 

Did you feel it was that much better than the Main Dining Room?

 

I'm looking forward to some lobster tails and shrimp cocktail

 

Lois

 

Lois, the BBQ is held out on the Lido Pool Deck, Yes the menu is the same every night in the Pinnacle.

 

I think the Pinnacle was open for Lunch but we never went but I do not think it was open when were in Port not for sure on that. Also I believe the price for lunch is $10.00 per person.

 

Yes, It is definitely better than the Main Dining Room but that is comparing Apples and Oranges. The Pinnacle is intimate Fine Dining with tables for two and the Main Dining Room is large tables banquet style.

 

As far as Lobster and shrimp cocktail those are only offered in the Main Dining Room not in the Pinnacle. The shrimp cocktails were great but the lobster was below previous standards this past cruise.

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What is the typical dress in the Pinnacle -- on the first night I think someone mentioned it appeared very casual. We usually like to dress at least "classy casual". Just want to fit in appropriately.

 

Lois

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What is the typical dress in the Pinnacle -- on the first night I think someone mentioned it appeared very casual. We usually like to dress at least "classy casual". Just want to fit in appropriately.

 

Lois

 

The Pinnacle tends to be informal, but formal on formal nights. Still, formalwear is never inappropriate in the Pinnacle.

 

First night, depending on sailing/dining time, can be very casual as folks still may not have received their luggage.

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...............Over all I do not think it has to do with being a Vista Class Ship as Dave said the Oosterdam has had nothing but praise so I think HAL needs to take a look at what is making the Oosterdam do so well and where the Westerdam is falling.

 

Forgive me, Lisa, but not true. Some of us have had other than praise for the food and service on the Oosterdam. I felt is was "okay", but nothing to rave about.

 

I have to say I'm a little surprised by some of these posts and the suggestion that people who take land-based vacations expect more than people who go on cruises. I expect far more service on a cruise than at a resort. We've done many vacations other than cruises. We've stayed at top of the line and some more moderate resorts.

 

I can say without hesitation that even the worst service on any cruise we've been on has been superior to the best service we've received at resorts.

 

So when I "complain" about the service on a ship, it doesn't mean it wasn't terrific ... it means it fell short of other cruises I've been on.

 

1st Mate, I enjoyed reading your review and I love your sense of humor. I always like to read the good and the bad about any cruise, but it still seems that while you seem to say you had a great time, the negatives stand out more as I read.

 

As to the size of the cabins, no one knows what "tiny" is unless you've been on the cruiseships from the 70's and 80's. Now those were tiny ... with beds that were smaller and always singles (unless you were in a penthouse which few could afford because the prices were so high back then). The Verandah cabins on HAL are huge in comparison and even better on their "S" class ships.

 

Before saying "never again" on HAL, try a couple of other cruiselines. You may change your mind (except for Celebrity which everyone knows is my personal favorite;) ... it's the people who sail on HAL that I like so much).

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You want small? This picture was taken with my back against one wall -

 

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and that was less than 5 years ago!

 

-dave

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"As to the size of the cabins, no one knows what "tiny" is unless you've been on the cruiseships from the 70's and 80's. Now those were tiny ... with beds that were smaller and always singles (unless you were in a penthouse which few could afford because the prices were so high back then). The Verandah cabins on HAL are huge in comparison and even better on their "S" class ships."

 

 

 

My first cruise was in 1968 on the Bahama Star with my high school graduating class. There were four of us in four bunks with ladders. The bathroom had a toilet and sink and the showers were community ones in the hall. The luggage went under the lower bunk bed. Today's tiniest cabin is huge compared to those. It was one of the best cruises I have ever had--funny, I really can't remember what the food was like.

 

I do remember our chaperones worked with all of us for a week before the cruise to teach us proper table manners and how to address the crew and staff. I have never forgotten:)

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