Blueboss Posted March 31, 2012 #51 Share Posted March 31, 2012 This is very curious to me. I'm assuming, from the article, that Triumph won't be leaving port tomorrow. Will be following this story closely. Still can't figure out how Texas got involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSTERBROWN99 Posted March 31, 2012 #52 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Nothing on Google news or Houston Chronicle... I don't quite believe this... have to see and hear more proof. If it is real, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #53 Share Posted March 31, 2012 It's in Pacer - the federal court site where you can see filed docs. I'm a litigation secretary so I have a username/password. If I knew how to upload pics to this site, I'd upload a jpg of the dismissal order. I can email a PDF to someone if they want to upload it. Ah. Can you do a search on the word Carnival an see if anything was re-filed? I have a hard time believing any news source would play a joke surrounding something like this where people died. Especially one where they are generally a source of decent info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGentleman05 Posted March 31, 2012 #54 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Could be someone's bad idea of an April fools released too early,I mentioned this earlier in the thread and was a bit suspicious of the reporters name? You cant actually arrest a ship,if its property being seized then its not arrested. Den You have mentioned this twice now. Exactly what do you find "suspicious" about the reporter's name? And "arrest" is simply a verb, meaning to detain, prevent from further movement, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhanback Posted March 31, 2012 Author #55 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Ah. Can you do a search on the word Carnival an see if anything was re-filed? I have a hard time believing any news source would play a joke surrounding something like this where people died. Especially one where they are generally a source of decent info. Me too, it is all just weird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Geegitz Posted March 31, 2012 #56 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Bunch of BS. I dont believe one word. What a croc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxamuus Posted March 31, 2012 #57 Share Posted March 31, 2012 It is still on http://www.bloomberg.com/news/ second highest worldwide news story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #58 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I just sent an email to the editor and reporter asking if a source or more info can be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisterd64 Posted March 31, 2012 #59 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I would guess the only reason it is happening in Texas is the fact that Triumph docks in Galveston and is being "arrested". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtaco Posted March 31, 2012 #60 Share Posted March 31, 2012 You have mentioned this twice now. Exactly what do you find "suspicious" about the reporter's name? And "arrest" is simply a verb, meaning to detain, prevent from further movement, etc. Michael Hytha Mhyta@ Looks pretty close to Myth to me! Just a suspicion being so close to April 1 and all. Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted March 31, 2012 #61 Share Posted March 31, 2012 The ship is still headed to Galveston at about 18 knots http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?zoom=10&mmsi=308045000¢erx=-92.63744400¢ery=27.94446000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #62 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Michael Hytha Mhyta@ Looks pretty close to Myth to me! Just a suspicion being so close to April 1 and all. Den The email is valid, he emailed me back. On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:38 PM, MICHAEL HYTHA (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:) <mhytha@bloomberg.net> wrote: Thank you for writing. As noted in the story, the source is court documents. We will update the story as more information becomes available. From: <xxx@gmail.com> To: MICHAEL HYTHA BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM: Cc: <xxx@calkins.us.com> Subject: Carnival Triumph Date: 3/30 2012 20:31:23 Is there any more info about this? People are calling this a sick April Fools joke (since deaths were involved) because literally no one else has reported on this. If you could update the story to include a source, that would be great. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=33137918&posted=1#post33137918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtaco Posted March 31, 2012 #63 Share Posted March 31, 2012 And "arrest" is simply a verb, meaning to detain, prevent from further movement, etc. And when was the last time you heard of a piece of machinery being arrested? I suppose it happens all the time where you live,not where i live thats for sure! Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGentleman05 Posted March 31, 2012 #64 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Michael Hytha Mhyta@ Looks pretty close to Myth to me! Just a suspicion being so close to April 1 and all. Den Hmmm....I think you might be reaching a bit there. Bloomberg doesn't strike me as an organization that would launch an elaborate (and tasteless) April Fool's joke a full 26 hours before April 1. As bizarre as it sounds initially, I think this is a case for Occam's razor. The simplest explanation here is that the article's telling the truth, and that we'll know a whole lot more in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman1118 Posted March 31, 2012 #65 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Is this real? They could still divert to New Orleans to avoid being seized, but it would make a lot of people upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGentleman05 Posted March 31, 2012 #66 Share Posted March 31, 2012 And "arrest" is simply a verb, meaning to detain, prevent from further movement, etc. And when was the last time you heard of a piece of machinery being arrested? I suppose it happens all the time where you live,not where i live thats for sure! Den I really don't know what you're getting at. It's a word, that's what it means, and so yes, things are arrested regularly. It sounds like it's just being used in a context you don't often encounter. As another poster mentioned, it's routine language in legal documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego7191 Posted March 31, 2012 #67 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I searched for additional cases and didn't see anything curious - just misc slip and fall suits, mostly filed in FL. The only thing that is concerning is that if it was indeed refiled today, it would not show in Pacer for a day or so. However the case number referenced in the story does not match what's in Pacer. Interesting indeed. Will be curious to see what reporter comes back with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwbrad Posted March 31, 2012 #68 Share Posted March 31, 2012 There is now a court case number listed, can you check it? From the web site: The case is Kai Stumpf v. Carnival plc, 3:12-cv-00099, U.S. District Court, Southern District of Texas (Galveston). Yeah, I checked the plaintiff's last name in TX to see if something was refiled but didn't see anything right off. Will do another search and include FL. I'd think that's where any lawsuit would be filed since CCL is in Miami. IN the meantime, I totally suck at uploading pics, so I don't know if this is going to work, but here is a screenshot that shows when it was filed (earlier this month) and the dismissal date (28th). Let me know if this doesn't come through right and/or give me instructions on how to upload. ok really I cannot upload pics! I have it on photobucket but don't know which option to pic to link it! There are four options (direct link, html, email, img) and I don't think any of them work for me......Jesus Christ - I got it to work. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxamuus Posted March 31, 2012 #69 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Thanks for sharing Kayhold. You might want to edit your above post and take out some of your email with &%# etc. Bots scour forums like these looking for email addresses to spam people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwbrad Posted March 31, 2012 #70 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I searched for additional cases and didn't see anything curious - just misc slip and fall suits, mostly filed in FL. The only thing that is concerning is that if it was indeed refiled today, it would not show in Pacer for a day or so. However the case number referenced in the story does not match what's in Pacer. Interesting indeed. Will be curious to see what reporter comes back with. Sorry ignore my previous post, you were checking before I could even get it on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #71 Share Posted March 31, 2012 First let me say, I really hope these people get to sail tomorrow. I would be devastated if that happened to me! Secondly, let me say if this is true, I hope that they still get to sail and that the bad press makes for some more price drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #72 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Thanks for sharing Kayhold. You might want to edit your above post and take out some of your email with &%# etc. Bots scour forums like these looking for email addresses to spam people. eeek I didn't even consider that! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtaco Posted March 31, 2012 #73 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I really don't know what you're getting at. It's a word, that's what it means, and so yes, things are arrested regularly. It sounds like it's just being used in a context you don't often encounter. As another poster mentioned, it's routine language in legal documents. Keep your hat on! it was a suspicion i picked up on so close to april 1 and cant discount it totally at present. And you encounter machinery being arrested all the time I suppose? and would use the same term for any property being held or siezed by the courts:rolleyes: What would happen I wonder if a thief claimed he made a "citizens arrest" on a piece of machinery lol Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego7191 Posted March 31, 2012 #74 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Hey Kayhold I checked that case number and it doesn't have anything to do with Carnival. In the picture below, the case number is just below the court information in the top center of the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayhold Posted March 31, 2012 #75 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Hey KayholdI checked that case number and it doesn't have anything to do with Carnival. In the picture below, the case number is just below the court information in the top center of the page. Youre on the Northern District, but this was Southern. Could that be why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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